The world's most disturbing children's book?

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nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: OdiN
There was a big huge photoshop fest on SA a while back which was editing childrens books to make them funny/outright wrong, etc.

I can't see the pictures in the link, probably blocked here at work. Can someone bbzzdd them?

That was just covers of books, though, this is the entire book.
 

Vageetasjn

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Originally posted by: WingZero94
Why does anti-gay have to be tied to the church? There are many other secular anti-gay establishments. Plus - not one mention of God in the book.
Really? What are some examples of secular anti-gay organizations?
 

HammerCurl

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Originally posted by: Vageetasjn
Originally posted by: WingZero94
Why does anti-gay have to be tied to the church? There are many other secular anti-gay establishments. Plus - not one mention of God in the book.
Really? What are some examples of secular anti-gay organizations?

Neo nazis?
 

TheChort

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Originally posted by: WingZero94
Originally posted by: TheChort
It seems legit to me. It's probably an anti-gay book published by some church.
I just wish the original photographer would have included a source or taken a picture of the cover :|

Why does anti-gay have to be tied to the church? There are many other secular anti-gay establishments. Plus - not one mention of God in the book.

fair enough ... it was an easy generalization on my part (particularly on this forum ;))
edit: I really don't care who published it one way or another
 

preslove

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You'd be surprised by how many different issues are raised by children's literature. I'm pretty sure that molestation and other types of abuse show up in a bunch of different kids books. I think the theme of the book is less "gay sex is bad," and more "if your freak of an uncle molests you, you're not necessarily gay."
 

TheChort

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Originally posted by: preslove
You'd be surprised by how many different issues are raised by children's literature. I'm pretty sure that molestation and other types of abuse show up in a bunch of different kids books. I think the theme of the book is less "gay sex is bad," and more "if your freak of an uncle molests you, you're not necessarily gay."

I think raising issues through children's literature is not necessarily a bad thing. That way, kids will get introduced to a "controversial" topic at a younger age, and it will be less taboo for them when they are older.

But in this book another point that's being raised is if you think you're gay, look to your past to see what went wrong and you will learn that you are not gay.

edit: I don't know, maybe we're just overly sensitive to the gay topic these days
 

Idontcare

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Oct 10, 1999
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But we all agree that Uncle Pete was not gay though, right?

I mean sure he was a perv and what he did was not right, for the boy at least, but just because a grown man teaches an ungrown man the intricate ways of taking care of one's self, or one's uncle, does not make the teacher any less heterosexual...does it?

Besides everyone knows in those family situations that Uncle Pete is actually banging mom, not son, while a-hole dad works all day to pay the bills.

I mean am I right or am I right or am I right?
 

yllus

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Is it just me, or is that book really not anti-homosexual? There are going to be special cases in which what happens to that kid happens for real - neglect from his father plus abuse from a trusted older male messes with his ideas of sexuality.
 

Fritzo

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Jan 3, 2001
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What? This is your standard "Unhappy parents leave child emotionally vunerable to allow uncle to commit rape" story. It's a classic! Disney has covered it dozens of times in thier movies.


:Q
 

preslove

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Originally posted by: TheChort
Originally posted by: preslove
You'd be surprised by how many different issues are raised by children's literature. I'm pretty sure that molestation and other types of abuse show up in a bunch of different kids books. I think the theme of the book is less "gay sex is bad," and more "if your freak of an uncle molests you, you're not necessarily gay."

I think raising issues through children's literature is not necessarily a bad thing. That way, kids will get introduced to a "controversial" topic at a younger age, and it will be less taboo for them when they are older.

But in this book another point that's being raised is if you think you're gay, look to your past to see what went wrong and you will learn that you are not gay.

edit: I don't know, maybe we're just overly sensitive to the gay topic these days

This is just one minor, potential incident where a kid is being taken advantage of by his perv uncle. Often what happens to molested kids is that they are confused and frustrated because they don't have a clear understanding of their sexuality. In this situation, it is good for a counselor to say, "well, what was done to you was wrong & you are not necessarily gay because your asshole uncle touched you in the 'bad touching' sort of way, or those asshole bullies taunt you for being different." Childrens lit has a pedagogical function; it introduces complicated subjects to children with simple narratives. I think it is a good thing for kids to be made aware of "bad touching" as early as possible, especially in situations where their parents don't teach them. This book might spur a kid who has been molested to tell someone in authority about it and stop it from happening. This is a clear social good.

This is not to say, however, that a significant percentage of self identified gay people have something "wrong" in their past that makes them gay. Molestation usually leads to sexual confusion and/or irresponsible sexual activity, not consistent homosexuality.
 

cherrytwist

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Originally posted by: yllus
Is it just me, or is that book really not anti-homosexual? There are going to be special cases in which what happens to that kid happens for real - neglect from his father plus abuse from a trusted older male messes with his ideas of sexuality.

Nah. That type of thinking is far too logical for this forum. Your post will be ignored.
 

Gooberlx2

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May 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: LoKe
Shens.

QFT. Show me cover, author, editor and publisher and then I'll believe it. Until then I think it's either shopped...or someone's home project.
 

The Sauce

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I am guessing that this is a Mormon publication. Of course homosexuality can't be normal...
 

RedCOMET

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Originally posted by: BW86
wtf?

having not read any other post in this thread, that was the first and hopefully only reaction I will have to that link posted by the OP.

WTF
 

Triumph

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I can see how this book would be considered anti-gay, but on the other hand, being molested by your uncle and having no real father figure definitely have some effect on a child's development. But what affect? I really don't know, haven't read anything about it.