The West's doctrines of religious tolerance now being used to chill free speech

[ayabe]

Ohh I dunno, the local wackjob church near me is holding a Koran burning on 9/11, it's caused controversy but it's not going to the courts.

Think a Bible burning by some muslims would go unchallenged? Please.

Free speech and all the rest is great for "us" but not "them".

 

[sandorski]

Oh really?

We haven't toyed with hate speech laws ourselves? The Scientologists haven't used the US and foreign tort system to destroy their enemies in much the same way as the Muslims are starting to now?

The title may be alarmist and I don't agree with it, but the bulk of the article is what matters. Why not try to be a little deeper instead of reacting only to the title? Note I did NOT use the article title for my thread title?

The first clue you were gonna Fail was "Fox News".

 

[Jaskalas]

It is urgent that the West revamp our understanding of “hate speech” and “racism.” If we fail to do so, we will lose our right to free speech, and will, sooner rather than later, become the United States of Arabia.

To rid ourselves of such things would first require ridding ourselves of the Left. Not happening, Islam has its enablers now and forever.

 

[BurnItDwn]

How the hell can ANYbody say "hate speech" against Muslims is racist?
Muslim isn't a race, but a religious belief.

 

[Amused]

The first clue you were gonna Fail was "Fox News".

Poisoning the wells is a logical fallacy.

 

[Amused]

Perhaps some do, but its more accurate to point out that the US was started by deists who founded the nation on Judeo-Christian principles and at that time going forward, Christianity was the dominant religeon of the early founding fathers and early imigrants. In the past 20 years or so, there has been a large growth in other religions - in particular islam in the US, the UK and Canada.

Actually, nothing of the Constitution or Bill of Rights is based on Christianity. Not one thing.

Also, the founders were, by and large, products of the Age of Enlightenment. Which was a departure from classical Judeo-Christian principles.

 

[sandorski]

Poisoning the wells is a logical fallacy.

No, srsly. You should have stopped right then.

 

[Amused]

No, srsly. You should have stopped right then.

So I take it you can't address the content of the article?

 

[sandorski]

So I take it you can't address the content of the article?

...and waste my time on addressing Fail? nah.

 

[Amused]

...and waste my time on addressing Fail? nah.

Nice dodge. You're a one trick pony.

 

[sandorski]

Nice dodge. You're a one trick pony.

The Trick is to avoid Fail. Something you have yet to Learn.

 

[Moonbeam]

We are where we are because of fear.

Nothing can be done about fear because fear is the suppression of all emotions, a contraction of all feeling. In short fear is the reaction to some threat that is about to awaken how worthless you feel, how much you hate yourself. Since you don't want to know that you feel yourself to be the worst person in the world, you aren't going to cure the problem of fear.

We fear and what is will continue to be.

Theoretical discussions of the mess we are in are lots of fun because they keep us away from the real issue.

He who imagines himself to be a defender of God or Allah is a self hater who covers his self hate with self flattery. He makes himself important by imagining he is important to God and an idolater because he worships a wimp god who is less than The Supreme Being. To defend Allah is to create Satin. Love Him and you will convert the world.

 

[Amused]

The Trick is to avoid Fail. Something you have yet to Learn.

Funny. Seems to be you who fails to address the substance of a debate and always seems to resort to logical fallacies instead.

You're like an autistic kid screaming "fail!" over and over again.

 

[piasabird]

Any organization that promotes murder and honor killings, and killing people who join another religion, is not an organization that promotes freedom of speach or the Freedom of Religion.

Sharia Law also allows for Polygamy.

 

[Perknose]

Indeed, that's why you don't use sources like fox news with inflammatory titles like "How to Keep the USA From Becoming the United States of Arabia"



http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1449655319804577054#

http://atheism.about.com/b/2006/06/01/islam-and-multiculturalism-compatible.htm

Wow, thanks! Haven't viewed that second video yet, but that first video is one of the deepest, most intelligent discussions of multiculturalsim I've ever come across.

Comparing it with the OP's Faux News SpewBolg level of crude, apoplectic Fail is . . . amusing!