The way wars are fought today causing more problems?

Discussion in 'Politics and News' started by randomrogue, Nov 21, 2012.

  1. xj0hnx

    xj0hnx Diamond Member

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    No, we could do it properly, if politics would stay the * out of the way.

    Destroying villages, sorry warlords, to secure diamond, and other mines? Just ribbing ya SoF.
     
  2. JohnOfSheffield

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    I was talking about how we handled South American aggression in the 90's.

    It's not even politics though, if asked whether to get the people responsible for 9/11 or let them spread and regroup while invading a nation for no good known reason then i think we could have handled it just fine.

    It's not politics, it's politicians with their own agendas that are the problem, politics refers to what people want and we both know that peoples interests were not served after the initial invasion of Afghanistan.
     
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  3. xj0hnx

    xj0hnx Diamond Member

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    Politics, politicians and their agendas, whatever, you know what I am saying.

    Wasn't that when the cocaine shipments started getting lighter?
     
  4. cwjerome

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    I said very rarely. Still a war in 1982 that lasted about 75 days and a border war in 1990 is about all you can come up with, proving my point... it's rare, particularly post-cold war. Serbia vs Croatia falls under failed state since all those related conflicts there in the 1990s were the result of the dissolution of Yugoslavia and the consequences of that. These are the types of conflicts that will dominate the foreseeable future... civil wars, regional insurgencies, etc.

    The general consensus is that since WWII, we've seen a dramatic decline of major warfare, and, that most future conflicts we likely involve low-grade warfare and policing actions. Don't argue with me, I'm just passing the word.

    That's an interesting but wrong idea you have there.
     
  5. JohnOfSheffield

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    Just for once in my life i wish i could play stupid and say no but yeah, unfortunately i do know what you are saying. :(



    What... who... i have never been so offended by any implication!

    My dear sir, if you imply i stole and sold cocain for £110 a gram during the Wimbledon finals i must have a strong word with you outside!

    On a serious note, yeah, they did, about when vice started picking up a lot of smaller boats outside the coastline too.

    We solved everything but FARC and made a lot of nations virtually impotent.

    Right now i'm wondering where Argentina went, all up in our face just a few months ago, now they are licking their injured balls and voila, not a sound of what happened.
     
  6. JohnOfSheffield

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    For those who don't know, cwjerome knows his sheit, he's almost as ancient of a soldier as i am. :D

    International laws and intermediary diplomacy while settling disputes has done a lot of good.

    99% of the retarded Americanos who want the UN disassembled have no clue how many trillions it has saved a nation that would NOT be the worlds only superpower without the UN.

    Without the rules, you're fair game, all of you, military or not.
     
  7. Jaskalas

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    Terrorists ignore the rules and make us all fair game, military or not.
     
  8. sandorski

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    That type of War is obsolete.
     
  9. 3chordcharlie

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    Your list shows some serious issues with the way you think.

    I see at least two.
     
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    <----I vote this the most assinine reply of 2012......well done!~!
     
  12. JohnOfSheffield

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    They may, i don't.

    That is what makes them the bad guys and us the good guys, we try to restore peace and fight those who want the fight, they fight anyone but us.

    Think of it as the kind of cunts who go out on a saturday night and bully people who don't want to fight, people who are not equipped to fight, like women and children and then they get them to the ground and kick them until they die.

    Those are the terrorists, we are the ones who stop them from doing that.

    If we become like them and... there have been times when i have wanted to just kill everyone, trust me, there have been those times in every soldiers life if he's been around in a war zone for any longer amount of time, but we don't.

    Because we're the good guys, and you rely on us to protect you, you should expect that from us. If i ignore the rules and think you are annoying... You'd be shit out of luck.

    To me it's about right and wrong, i try to see others viewpoints but seriously... terrorists don't get to be alive if i know where they are, i don't care, i REALLY don't care, they have given up their right to life, it has not bothered me even once.
     
  13. JohnOfSheffield

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    I have a hard time disagreeing with him (apart from being wrong on the numbers).

    Why not do what our enemy does and just march through the entire fucking thing, surrender or die.

    Those who surrender will remain alive, everyone who doesn't will die.

    We have the means if all men are called in, you ready to bring some justice to our motherlands my brother?

    We have millions of soldier all in all.
     
  14. 3chordcharlie

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    It's not even the most asinine reply in this thread.