the way it is

[Summitdrinker]

The following was written by Professor Alexander Fraser Tytler shortly
before our original 13 colonies gained their independence from Great
Britain.

He was speaking of the Athenian Republic some 2000 years before.

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only
exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse
(generous benefits) from the public treasury."

"From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising
them the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a
democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a
dictatorship."

"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.

These nations have progressed through this sequence:

From bondage to spiritual faith;
from spiritual faith to great courage;
from courage to liberty;
from liberty to abundance;
from abundance to selfishness;
from selfishness to complacency;
from complacency to apathy;
from apathy to dependence;
from dependency back again into bondage."


in modern terms this is welfare, tax write offs and tax rebates

 

[techs]

Yes, it is logical to assume that what happened in Athens over 2000 years ago applies to America today.
/sarcasm

 

[Summitdrinker]

look at the national debt and how nobody seems to care, nothing is done about it it just grows

heck a new tax break, mainly for the rich just passed didn't it?

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: Summitdrinker
lokk at the national debt and how nobody seems to care, nothing is done about it it just grows

BULLSPIT. The national debt would be a long way to completely retired if a few thousand votes were different in Florida in 2000.
In fact more than half the Republican votes in 2000 were voting for the "fiscal responsibility" that Bush and ever Republican said they were going to do.
I think over 60 percent of Americans want fiscal responsibility. Which they were tricked out of by Bush and Republicans.

 

[Summitdrinker]

well if it's only a few thousand votes, it's enough to get things going, and nobody has stopped it

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: Summitdrinker
well if it's only a few thousand votes, it's enough to get things going, and nobody has stopped it

I added this after you posted. Here it is again:

In fact more than half the Republican votes in 2000 were voting for the "fiscal responsibility" that Bush and ever Republican said they were going to do. Add that to the Democratic votes for fiscal responsiblity (locked box, pay down the debt).
I think over 65 percent of Americans want fiscal responsibility. Which they were tricked out of by Bush and Republicans.

 

[Summitdrinker]

ok sounds good, then why hasn't it happened........bush jr is still the pres and he was re-elected

he hasn't been run out office after all the craziness he put this country threw

and good old Ronny.......look how he added to the national debt...........people still fell for the fake party

 

[Summitdrinker]

and were still in this crazy iraq war that bush jr got us in

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: Summitdrinker
The following was written by Professor Alexander Fraser Tytler shortly
before our original 13 colonies gained their independence from Great
Britain.

He was speaking of the Athenian Republic some 2000 years before.

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only
exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse
(generous benefits) from the public treasury."

"From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising
them the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a
democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a
dictatorship."

"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.

These nations have progressed through this sequence:

From bondage to spiritual faith;
from spiritual faith to great courage;
from courage to liberty;
from liberty to abundance;
from abundance to selfishness;
from selfishness to complacency;
from complacency to apathy;
from apathy to dependence;
from dependency back again into bondage."


in modern terms this is welfare, tax write offs and tax rebates

Importing from China and outsourcing to EVERYWHERE FTW!

 

[Summitdrinker]

"Importing from China and outsourcing to EVERYWHERE FTW!"

good old ronny was the one who really started this, he is not the only one to blame, but he deserves the most blame...and what party was he from? the fake party

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: Summitdrinker
"Importing from China and outsourcing to EVERYWHERE FTW!"

good old ronny was the one who really started this, he is not the only one to blame, but he deserves the most blame...and what party was he from? the fake party

Reagan started the concept of NAFTA. Bush I cultivated it and Clinton signed it. Now Bush II has done CAFTA, working on TAFTA (watch pickup trucks stop being produced in the US once this happens), and a host of others.

Dependency FTL!