The Walking Dead - season 6 discussion thread

[destrekor]

It might be because of how hard they try to stick to the comic... Cartoon drawings story with speech bubbles with cartoon characters might get into less logical situations and receive more leeway than live-action stuff.

That, I suspect, is exactly it. No idea if their current predicament is based on comic plot (as Daryl is a TV-only character), but even if it is not, plenty of previous events were, and that's just the style of comics. It doesn't always translate perfectly onto screen, but they still have to try because many other plot points depend on certain situations having happened.

 

[alien42]

the pistol Carl took from the armory had a carving of Lucille on it, have we seen that gun before or is this just portending to the future?

 

[pontifex]

the pistol Carl took from the armory had a carving of Lucille on it, have we seen that gun before or is this just portending to the future?

i don't recall seeing it before

 

[rudder]

Can't believe those idiots have made it this long with the non-stop stream of stupid moves they make. Writers are just lazy - they could make the characters smart and capable without having them be complete fools over and over again to move a plot along.

True that. The first thing they should have done in Alexandra was make a kill zone around the whole wall.... kind of like East Berlin...except opposite. As it is now anybody can walk up to wall without being seen.

As far as the last episode ... I hope they didnt kill of Daryl. In the comics

Spoiler

Dwight helps out Rick

but the events leading up to this point have only loosely followed the comics.

 

[Phoenix86]

True that. The first thing they should have done in Alexandra was make a kill zone around the whole wall.... kind of like East Berlin...except opposite. As it is now anybody can walk up to wall without being seen.

The made it worse by putting extra cars out there, giving anyone loads of cover to approach. Makes 0 sense but whatever.

 

[OutHouse]

its been 6 years since the world ended and somethings are just not adding up.

Why doesn't Alexandria have livestock like cows, chickens, goats??? those are basic foods any community around the world has at hand.

Also why the lack of military hardware for defense. There should be loads of military shit they can get, remember the cdc? Tanks. Machine-guns, grenades all over the place, or at the very least some armored cars.

Also Fuel, gas and diesel should be bad by now, hell ive had gas go bad on me by leaving it in the lawn mower over the winter. Time to get horses and wagons.

 

[Phoenix86]

its been 6 years since the world ended and somethings are just not adding up.

Why doesn't Alexandria have livestock like cows, chickens, goats??? those are basic foods any community around the world has at hand.

Also why the lack of military hardware for defense. There should be loads of military shit they can get, remember the cdc? Tanks. Machine-guns, grenades all over the place, or at the very least some armored cars.

Also Fuel, gas and diesel should be bad by now, hell ive had gas go bad on me by leaving it in the lawn mower over the winter. Time to get horses and wagons.

IIRC it's only been like 2-3 years, look at Judith's age. Livestock doesn't make much sense, you'd think they should have SOME.

Tanks and heavy vehicles use diesel, and lots of it. Smaller vehicles make far more sense but even then I expect the world would be pretty dry by now.

I think this is just one of the plot devices (enough fuel to move) we'll have to accept. If they were down to foot/horse the world would be pretty small and limit writing significantly.

 

[Imp]

That, I suspect, is exactly it. No idea if their current predicament is based on comic plot (as Daryl is a TV-only character), but even if it is not, plenty of previous events were, and that's just the style of comics. It doesn't always translate perfectly onto screen, but they still have to try because many other plot points depend on certain situations having happened.

It's probably cheaper to fundamentally follow the comic than to come up with their own story. But once they start deviating, someone probably reminds the writers that this/that person has to die, so let's do that, then do our own thing for a while.

 

[Cappuccino]

Just spoil me guys.. did he or not die? Spoiler tag it thanks.

edit nvm Daryl is not even in the comics

 

[Charmonium]

Daryl's not going to die. There would be rioting in the street, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together. It would make the zombie apocalypse look like Disneyland.

Plus, as one of the chicks on talking dead pointed out, if you're going to kill someone like daryl, carol or rick, it has to be epic. You don't kill off a main character as the result of some random attack. You need to milk that bitch for all it's worth.

 

[Cappuccino]

Daryl's not going to die. There would be rioting in the street, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together. It would make the zombie apocalypse look like Disneyland.

Plus, as one of the chicks on talking dead pointed out, if you're going to kill someone like daryl, carol or rick, it has to be epic. You don't kill off a main character as the result of some random attack. You need to milk that bitch for all it's worth.

true dat. i wud like to see dogs and cats living together though

 

[gotsmack]

If it's been 2-3 years how have the zombies not completely rotted out yet? In the South, I doubt a rotting corpse would even last a season before being completely picked clean by insects.

 

[Kwatt]

If it's been 2-3 years how have the zombies not completely rotted out yet? In the South, I doubt a rotting corpse would even last a season before being completely picked clean by insects.

That logic can't be used in the story. I threw it out in the first episode when Rick left the hospital and the bodies outside weren't covered with rats and mice.

You would also not find a scrap of food that is not in metal or glass. No cigs, no seeds nothing.

.

 

[Skel]

Daryl's not going to die. There would be rioting in the street, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together. It would make the zombie apocalypse look like Disneyland.

Plus, as one of the chicks on talking dead pointed out, if you're going to kill someone like daryl, carol or rick, it has to be epic. You don't kill off a main character as the result of some random attack. You need to milk that bitch for all it's worth.

The whole thing with Negan has to be epic as it's got to make the impact. If they don't kill a major introducing him they're going to fail, as they need to demonstrate that he's worse than anyone they've ever met before. He's supposed to be worse than the Governor, so they need to do something a lot more than just threaten the group. They really really need to kill a major, in a very very bad way. (note: I have read the comics and that's the level they need to do in this show) If they were going to kill Daryl, I honestly think this is the time to do it. He'd have the most impact at this point.

Of course, odds are they're not going to kill anyone.. at least anyone of importance. It'll be like the doctor woman.. a few people will be sad but most of us will wonder how she lasted this long.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Daryl's not going to die. There would be rioting in the street, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together. It would make the zombie apocalypse look like Disneyland.

Plus, as one of the chicks on talking dead pointed out, if you're going to kill someone like daryl, carol or rick, it has to be epic. You don't kill off a main character as the result of some random attack. You need to milk that bitch for all it's worth.

I disagree, a sudden unexpected menial death is exactly what was needed right there. It would have been perfect. He screwed up and paid for it. In reality, given their interactions, Dwight would have been insane not to immediately kill Daryl, which is why I thought that is exactly what happened. Unfortunately, they are too chicken to do it. (of course, I like Daryl, so it would suck, but..hey...it would add impact). When it first happened, I wasn't exactly watching the screen, and was in shock. Perfect. Knowing that's not what happened cheapened the episode.

It also would have been a great lead up to Negan. One of your major players just died trivialy and you have this new badass adversary to deal with that comes in and kills 2-3 more of your major players.

 

[Jeeebus]

How is everyone on this show (including the zombies) a selective ninja whenever the plot calls for it? Darryl is Mr. Nature himself, yet two doofuses manage to sneak up on him undetected in a forest... a quiet forest that presumably does not have a tile floor and they are probably not just wearing socks. Most of the zombie deaths recently are due to zombies just jumping out of nowhere/being teleported to right behind somebody. Ughh.

 

[Phoenix86]

How is everyone on this show (including the zombies) a selective ninja whenever the plot calls for it? Darryl is Mr. Nature himself, yet two doofuses manage to sneak up on him undetected in a forest... a quiet forest that presumably does not have a tile floor and they are probably not just wearing socks. Most of the zombie deaths recently are due to zombies just jumping out of nowhere/being teleported to right behind somebody. Ughh.

Sometimes they leave their plot armor at home.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Sometimes they leave their plot armor at home.

:thumbsup:

 

[GasX]

Did Carol have a minigun hidden in her sleeve or what?

 

[Charmonium]

How is everyone on this show (including the zombies) a selective ninja whenever the plot calls for it? Darryl is Mr. Nature himself, yet two doofuses manage to sneak up on him undetected in a forest... a quiet forest that presumably does not have a tile floor and they are probably not just wearing socks. Most of the zombie deaths recently are due to zombies just jumping out of nowhere/being teleported to right behind somebody. Ughh.

In season 12 we'll find out that the zombies are able to use wormholes peppering the planet - sort of like The Flash with Earth 2. Except only zombies can use them. That's why it takes them 12 seasons to figure this out.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Sometimes they leave their plot armor at home.

My wife and I have taken to predicting outcomes based on the narrative armor protecting a given seen or choice.

In season 12 we'll find out

Spoiler

that the zombies are able to use wormholes peppering the planet - sort of like The Flash with Earth 2. Except only zombies can use them. That's why it takes them 12 seasons to figure this out.

FIFY

 

[CZroe]

If they keep confirming where Saviors have been by finding the blacksmithed spears, how do they know for sure that they didn't come from a Hilltop resident or some other community they traded with? Also, wouldn't Hilltop have had a better estimate of how many Saviors there were if they armed them all with spears?

 

[CZroe]

IIRC it's only been like 2-3 years, look at Judith's age. Livestock doesn't make much sense, you'd think they should have SOME.

Tanks and heavy vehicles use diesel, and lots of it. Smaller vehicles make far more sense but even then I expect the world would be pretty dry by now.

I think this is just one of the plot devices (enough fuel to move) we'll have to accept. If they were down to foot/horse the world would be pretty small and limit writing significantly.

Just before the Apocalypse everyone gassed up with E0 and treated with Stabil!

I thought it was laughable when Daryl needed to replace an old battery... with an old battery. All he had to do was say something that made it sound like he knew what he was talking about. "Naw. A little distilled water and that'll crank right up!" Distilled water is probably pretty hard to come by when you're on the road anyway. It would have made more sense if he found a new cell that had not been activated with the electrolyte still in the container. The manual for the last one I activated said that it will already have about 75% charge when you just dump it in and seal it.

Anyway, I assume that cows make too much noise to have safely. They also implied that the only reason Alexandria survived without exposure was pure luck/providence. No one malicious stumbled on them and the quarry was keeping them from being overrun by herds.

 

[CZroe]

If it's been 2-3 years how have the zombies not completely rotted out yet? In the South, I doubt a rotting corpse would even last a season before being completely picked clean by insects.

New generation.

Did Carol have a minigun hidden in her sleeve or what?

A mini, minigun.

 

[rudder]

If it's been 2-3 years how have the zombies not completely rotted out yet? In the South, I doubt a rotting corpse would even last a season before being completely picked clean by insects.

You just have to ignore plot holes like this. I mean the whole premise of the show is unrealistic... especially in the south. We have enough guns and ammo to wipe out most of America.... there would not even be zombies.