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The Walking Dead Season 5 - Official discussion thread

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Kaido said:
Yeah. I haven't been as excited I was the initial couple of seasons. They really dragged out the governor stuff forever. I'm hoping this next group of people will offer them some kind of interesting plot challenge. Groups fighting groups is getting pretty old. The zombie concept is even so old they gloss over it now, haha.
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They really need to do something different this time. Right now it feels like the show is just stuck stumbling from one group of villains to the next. There really needs to be some hope of having a meaningful resolution for the plot. It seemed like Eugene was going to be that hope, but they totally smashed that with a baseball bat earlier this season.
 
destrekor said:
Groups fighting groups or other group interaction seems to be the entire point behind the story if you ask me. It happens time and time again in the comics from what I understand, and they seem to have already skipped a few groups and tried to hasten the march to the D.C. region.

From what I know, there should be some very interesting plots that happen once they arrive there, but the question will be, how long will they drag that out? I here some were annoyed with how long that part of the story lasted in the comics, or at least, the story of one of the characters (think: Governor).

They try to stay true to the comic series, and they take their own approach when desired but otherwise do try to follow the general plot. I suspect a lot of the gripes people have with the show are very similar to the comics (which isn't finished yet, with no answer to the Zombie plague or resolution in sight). The story, in any medium, will likely be seen as having been far too drawn out once everything is said and done, but frankly, I still enjoy it. And yep, unless it's absolutely terrible, I'm a completionist, partly because I also get wrapped up in the actual narrative structure and plots of a show to get a feel for all of it for my own purposes.
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I agree that everything gets very drug out. I think that's the curse of popularity for many entertainment franchises. This is why I'm starting to enjoy "mini-series series" more than standard shows. Shows like True Detective, American Horror Story, and Fargo are great because they limit their story length to a point where they can't waste an entire episode on people being hungry and sad, a villain returning for the 4th time, or re-running the same 8 episode story arch with different names.
 
Merad said:
They really need to do something different this time. Right now it feels like the show is just stuck stumbling from one group of villains to the next. There really needs to be some hope of having a meaningful resolution for the plot. It seemed like Eugene was going to be that hope, but they totally smashed that with a baseball bat earlier this season.
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Yes & yes. I was hoping they were going to throw something new in.

Same problem I had with Prison Break - great first season. Start watching the second season & they went back to prison. Five seasons of this? No thanks 😀
 
Kaido said:
Merad said:
They really need to do something different this time. Right now it feels like the show is just stuck stumbling from one group of villains to the next. There really needs to be some hope of having a meaningful resolution for the plot. It seemed like Eugene was going to be that hope, but they totally smashed that with a baseball bat earlier this season.
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Yes & yes. I was hoping they were going to throw something new in.

Same problem I had with Prison Break - great first season. Start watching the second season & they went back to prison. Five seasons of this? No thanks 😀
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It's not going to happen. There isn't going to be a resolution. Hell, one of the producers just joked that she wants to break the record for number of episodes (Simpsons).

It's funny, because I remember seeing billboards for Prison Break back when it was supposed to come out and thinking "How is that going to work for a TV show? They clearly have a story ending in mind but if the show is popular they aren't going to want to end it, so they'll have to rewrite the whole thing to drag it out. No thanks."

Similar thing happened with Bates Motel. I got suckered in when I thought it was just going to be a miniseries, but it was popular so they turned it into a full series. Can't even muster up the determination to watch the second season of that mess.
 
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mugs said:
Morgan didn't even get to Gabriel's church until at least a month after Rick and the group had left.
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Why do you say that? I got the impression the events at the hospital and Morgan arriving at the church happened the same time. It was in the same episode.
 
Childs said:
Why do you say that? I got the impression the events at the hospital and Morgan arriving at the church happened the same time. It was in the same episode.
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Someone noticed that in the Morgan scenes in that episode there were some signs that time had passed. A magazine on the ground outside the school had accumulated a lot more dirt, a previously fresh mark on a tree was no longer fresh, and IIRC the leaves were changing color.
 
Gunslinger08 said:
I understand that this show isn't 24 with fast moving plots and action, but it's slowly slipping from a "watch Sunday night" show to a "what's on the DVR? on Thursday night" show.
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I couldn't imagine watching this show without a DVR now. They're up to, what, 25 minutes of commercials now?
 
So.... did all the zombies get insta-smashed by the trees or something? I didn't quite get that scene. There was a hoard pushing on the door... Did they stand there holding the door shut for hours until the trees came down..? I don't know, that was kind of odd. Also... the door was held together by a chain and padlock. Are a bunch of uncoordinated zombies going to have enough power to bust that open..? mehhhh.
 
z1ggy said:
So.... did all the zombies get insta-smashed by the trees or something? I didn't quite get that scene. There was a hoard pushing on the door... Did they stand there holding the door shut for hours until the trees came down..? I don't know, that was kind of odd. Also... the door was held together by a chain and padlock. Are a bunch of uncoordinated zombies going to have enough power to bust that open..? mehhhh.
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I doubt they could break the chain, but I imagine enough weight against the door would tear the chain away from whatever it is anchored to. It's like breaking open a door that has that little chain across it in apartment buildings. You kick the door, the chain doesn't break but it's ripped out of the frame or the door anchor instead.
 
z1ggy said:
So.... did all the zombies get insta-smashed by the trees or something? I didn't quite get that scene. There was a hoard pushing on the door... Did they stand there holding the door shut for hours until the trees came down..? I don't know, that was kind of odd. Also... the door was held together by a chain and padlock. Are a bunch of uncoordinated zombies going to have enough power to bust that open..? mehhhh.
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It looked like a tornado went right by the barn.
 
z1ggy said:
So.... did all the zombies get insta-smashed by the trees or something? I didn't quite get that scene. There was a hoard pushing on the door... Did they stand there holding the door shut for hours until the trees came down..? I don't know, that was kind of odd. Also... the door was held together by a chain and padlock. Are a bunch of uncoordinated zombies going to have enough power to bust that open..? mehhhh.
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The weight and momentum of all that pushing zombie mass would have broken something. As DaveStall said, I doubt the chain would go. But the anchor points would be weak enough, or they could eventually have broken through a weaker spot in the wood itself.


I don't think they had to stand there for hours. But they held the door shut until the tornado came through and did two things: tossed the zombies around, and also tossed a bunch of broken tree limbs around. It looked like all of them were either impaled or pinned.


BTW: I deleted the recording so I cannot review this, but I think it may have just as easily been a microburst (exact opposite of a tornado, in a nutshell), but I didn't really pay enough attention to the damage to see if it was all directional outward from a certain point. And typically microbursts are sort of circular, like an epicenter with radiating damage (very rough, not at all like a bullseye, fyi), and I do think I saw a straight path cut through the woods versus widely-scattered flattening, which can be possible for small swaths of straight-line winds, especially in derechos or any downburst that is more forward-facing than straight down. If the trees were all pointed mostly in one direction that would be a clue.
Not that it matters at all, I just enjoy meteorology. 🙂
 
The barn scene was one of the lamest scenes in the whole series, even topping the laughable scene where Glen is rescued in the train tunnel at the last second by the car blaring in to save the day
 
SAWYER said:
The barn scene was one of the lamest scenes in the whole series, even topping the laughable scene where Glen is rescued in the train tunnel at the last second by the car blaring in to save the day
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It was sort of an annoying deus ex machina, but at least it had a plausible build up in the story. They recognized it was a storm that justified seeking shelter.

The biggest problem I had with it: the trees were clearing impaling zombies and otherwise all broken apart immediately near the barn, and yet no tree limbs punctured the barn, nor did the barn suffer any other obvious damage. While this is quite plausible, it still reeks of a sloppy plot device.

I think it would have been a better story if, instead of it being zombies they had to hold back, they had to hold the doors against the strength of the wind trying to rip them out. Thus, no plot device apparent whatsoever, and a small triumph over something other than other humans and zombies.
 
when I was in the scouts we went to Plainfield the of the the big Plainfield Illinois tornado that took all those lives in the early 90s. We went to a neighborhood where every house was gone except one that was perfectly intact even the chairs on the porch were still there. Was eerie.

What if like the big secret of the early ice ages was that they happened to kill off the zombie infestations? Zombie dinosuars bro!

Noah was a zombie hunter.
 
Hey we're going to check to see if there is a possible invasion force down the road, so let's act like we're on a Sunday stroll and walk down the middle of an open road, pretty close together.

You keep dying because you keep doing stupid shit!

How did Rick not find that parabolic mic earlier, like as soon as he got in?

Seeing all the license plates made me think why don't they use them for armor, at last like for vital areas or like arms that seem to always get bitten.
 
Interesting episode.


I think the two guys are alone. Thats why they have so much stuff. If he was an NGO he had access to storage for water and supplies that were sent to humanitarian missions.


Its almost like rick is moses and they have been traveling the desert of walkers for a long time.


Rick and Michonne gonna get it on soon. I also think rosita is gonna leave abraham for Carl soon.
 
in the preview of next week Rick mumbles "it's all about survival".... what did he say?

if you haven't watched the 9, 10, 11 episodes you literally haven't missed anything.
 
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