The US has gone from unanimous reauthorization of the 1965 Voting Rights Act to eviscerating it.

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Ajay

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So what? Who politicized the court? GOP. And to what purpose are they using its politicization? Making a farce out of the American democracy where politicians decide who gets to vote.
Well, we just had an insurrection by members of the party formerly know as the GOP. Call me gun shy. Yes, the court ruling is a farce (at best). I honestly don’t know how to best work this out. Seems like a lose lose situation.
 

K1052

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They're going to revisit Sullivan apparently too now because the ability of powerful people to ruin others for saying mean or unflattering things about power public figures is apparently too limited for conservative tastes. Something something cancel culture.

Let me take this opportunity to say I have it on good authority that Thomas and Gorsuch tag team goats while dressed as French maids.

In the long run this is going to be a terrible court that dramatically erodes individual rights and various social/civil protections because a bunch of retrograde Federalist Society dickheads insist they are treated unfairly.
 

Ajay

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Well to be fair the supreme court would be initiating the constitutional crisis by placing itself above any check or balance by the other two branches.
Yes, if in fact, they reject congress' increase in the number of SC Justices who are seated in the court.
 

hal2kilo

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They are on quite the roll. Hell, they basically legalized political bribery a couple years back. It's just among friends, you know. The SCOTUS seems hell bent on making themselves a useless anachronism, just to be ignored.
 

Ajay

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They are on quite the roll. Hell, they basically legalized political bribery a couple years back. It's just among friends, you know. The SCOTUS seems hell bent on making themselves a useless anachronism, just to be ignored.
Political 'bribery' has, essentially, been legal for some time I thought. Didn't the court just make it legal for it to be opaque, rather than transparent. Less shell companies and shell non-profits that way.
 

theeedude

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Well, we just had an insurrection by members of the party formerly know as the GOP. Call me gun shy. Yes, the court ruling is a farce (at best). I honestly don’t know how to best work this out. Seems like a lose lose situation.
Packing the court is not a constitutional crisis by itself. If court creates one by trying to declare it unconstitutional, then it's on them. I am just saying Democrats need to be ready for it and ignore the court whining.
 

ch33zw1z

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Well, we just had an insurrection by members of the party formerly know as the GOP. Call me gun shy. Yes, the court ruling is a farce (at best). I honestly don’t know how to best work this out. Seems like a lose lose situation.

At this point, I'm not seeing how GOP voters change much. Sure, this time is failed, there will be a next time. They're just getting warmed up.
 
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K1052

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It should be quite evident to everybody now that even passing electoral reforms and more voting rights though congress is basically a waste of time without packing SCOTUS.

Roberts is simply hostile to voting rights legislation and will always find a reason to shitcan congress's attempts to improve things.
 
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Matt390

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Well to be fair the supreme court would be initiating the constitutional crisis by placing itself above any check or balance by the other two branches.


The President would just tell them to eat a bag of dicks if they tried to do that. Jackson did something similar when they started acting all uppity.
 

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It should be quite evident to everybody now that even passing electoral reforms and more voting rights though congress is basically a waste of time without packing SCOTUS.

Roberts is simply hostile to voting rights legislation and will always find a reason to shitcan congress's attempts to improve things.


Roberts already said the Congress can weigh in on partisan gerrymandering. Unless America goes back to 1960 Jim Crow South, that's a much bigger problem for Democrats.
 

K1052

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Roberts already said the Congress can weigh in on partisan gerrymandering. Unless America goes back to 1960 Jim Crow South, that's a much bigger problem for Democrats.

I think he said that it was beyond their purview, that the states should address it. If Congress passes law I think he'd definitely consider that within their purview.
 

Matt390

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I think he said that it was beyond their purview, that the states should address it. If Congress passes law I think he'd definitely consider that within their purview.

That's not how declaring something non-judicable works.
 

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This is the secret to a life of thought untrammeled by a capacity to feel. When the mind knows not, the heart for the heart's repellent selfish motivations, coupled with a upbringing that praised selflessness, frees the mind to rationalize anything to protect the self from seeing itself as it really is. All of us fancy that the rosy self images we adopted as children to hide the shame of imagined transgressions, is the self that all others should conform to and adopt. Anything less and the fiction is threatened, the most unwelcome threat that there is.

Law schools and legal theories, think tanks, and money insure that there are such things as legal experts skilled in the manufacture of these fictions and the fiction is facilitated always by various honorific appellations.