The US Army should abandon their POS Apache AH64 and get some Russian Helos..

[Qianglong]

I heard that for every one hour of flight the AH64 needs 5 hours of maitenance. Plus it can be shot down by a farmer's pellet gun or if some kid throw a rock at the Tail Rotor and the pilot has no way to eject but to meet Satan with his green tin..

Now this is one sweet HELO:

Its also the first and only helicopter to have ejection seat. It doesnt need any vulnerable tail rotor.
My favorit helicopter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RITbQHLLhU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BoGTNjGig8&mode=related&search=

 

[Chaotic42]

Maybe they should hire you as an analyst...

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: Qianglong
I heard that for every one hour of flight the AH64 needs 5 hours of maitenance. Plus it can be shot down by a farmer's pellet gun or if some kid throw a rock at the Tail Rotor and the pilot has no way to eject but to meet Satan with his green tin..

Now this is one sweet HELO:

Its also the first and only helicopter to have ejection seat. It doesnt need any vulnerable tail rotor.
My favorit helicopter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RITbQHLLhU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BoGTNjGig8&mode=related&search=

quoted so you cant change your stupidity.

 

[Exterous]

Yeah, no way you'd ever see those rotors sticking above the tree line

 

[Queasy]

Airwolf pwns ALL

 

[amish]

you do realize that the AH 64 is the most survivable of all military helocopters, right?

 

[tranceport]

In every environment but sand the AH64 owns.

 

[Qianglong]

Originally posted by: amish
you do realize that the AH 64 is the most survivable of all military helocopters, right?

A iraq kid can bring the helo down by throwing a rock at the tail rotor?

 

[calvinbiss]

The russians probably only had enough money to build 1 anyway

 

[Zolty]

Originally posted by: Qianglong

Originally posted by: amish
you do realize that the AH 64 is the most survivable of all military helocopters, right?

A iraq kid can bring the helo down by throwing a rock at the tail rotor?

You of course have a source for this and are not just pulling it from the depths of your ass, right?

 

[kaizersose]

Originally posted by: Qianglong

Originally posted by: amish
you do realize that the AH 64 is the most survivable of all military helocopters, right?

A iraq kid can bring the helo down by throwing a rock at the tail rotor?

the rotor of the apache is advertised to be able to withstand something like .30 cal machine gun fire. i dont think a rock would do the job.

 

[slsmnaz]

Originally posted by: Zolty

Originally posted by: Qianglong

Originally posted by: amish
you do realize that the AH 64 is the most survivable of all military helocopters, right?

A iraq kid can bring the helo down by throwing a rock at the tail rotor?

You of course have a source for this and are not just pulling it from the depths of your ass, right?

Since when does that matter here?

 

[Tom]

have to be a brave mofo to eject..

 

[Qianglong]

Originally posted by: Tom
have to be a brave mofo to eject..

The rotors will be blown off by explosives first before the pilot ejects

 

[theeedude]

Apache gets it done. This thing would probably get it done too, but no reason to change.
It's not like the reason we can't win in Iraq is because Apaches don't have twin rotors.
Plus we need to support our own military industry, not send money to Russia.

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by: Qianglong

Originally posted by: Tom
have to be a brave mofo to eject..

The rotors will be blown off by explosives first before the pilot ejects

really ? which way, sideways ?

 

[MrWizzard]

Im not convinced, you shoot at a AH-64 and only one rotor could get messed up, shoot at that russian thing's rotors and you have 100% more chance to mess things up, it's got two, it's harder to hit a tail rotor than another huge main one.

 

[Qianglong]

Originally posted by: Tom

Originally posted by: Qianglong

Originally posted by: Tom
have to be a brave mofo to eject..

The rotors will be blown off by explosives first before the pilot ejects

really ? which way, sideways ?

"The Ka-50 is the world's first operational helicopter with a rescue ejection system, which allows pilot to escape at all altitudes and speeds. The K-37-800 Rocket Assisted Ejection System is manufactured by the Zvezda Research and Production Enterprise Joint Stock Company in the Moscow Region. The seat operates by pulling the pilot from the helicopter cabin using a solid-propellant rocket motor. The system comprises the seat, a control unit and a pullout rocket motor. The seat is fitted with a survival pack containing an NAZ-7M survival kit, a life raft and a PS-37A parachute system. The seat provides safe forced emergency escape from helicopters in the speed range 0 to 350 km/hour and at altitude 0 to 6,000 metres. The seat also provides safe ejection during inverted flight (at speeds 0 to 330 km/h with zero vertical velocity) at a minimum altitude of 90 metres. Pilot is ejected in max. six second."

http://www.military.cz/russia/air/helicopters/Ka_50/ka50_en.htm

 

[amish]

Originally posted by: Qianglong

Originally posted by: amish
you do realize that the AH 64 is the most survivable of all military helocopters, right?

A iraq kid can bring the helo down by throwing a rock at the tail rotor?

hmmm, "Modern, tandem-seat, armoured and damage-resistant combat helicopter; is required to continue flying for 30 minutes after being hit by 12.7 mm bullets coming from anywhere in the lower hemisphere plus 20º; also survives 23 mm hits in many parts. Main rotor blades (by Tool Research and Engineering Corporation, Composite Structures Divisions) tolerant to 23 mm cannon shells. The tail rotor drive, by Aircraft Gear Corporation, has grease-lubricated gearboxes with Bendix driveshafts and couplings; gearboxes and shafts can operate for 1 hour after ballistic damage."

while the tail rotor does not state that it could withstand a 23mm hit, i highly doubt a rock will bring the bird down.

here's my source. i don't think you've come up with one yet.

 

[adairusmc]

USMC AH-1Z > All

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: Qianglong

Originally posted by: Tom

Originally posted by: Qianglong

Originally posted by: Tom
have to be a brave mofo to eject..

The rotors will be blown off by explosives first before the pilot ejects

really ? which way, sideways ?

"The Ka-50 is the world's first operational helicopter with a rescue ejection system, which allows pilot to escape at all altitudes and speeds. The K-37-800 Rocket Assisted Ejection System is manufactured by the Zvezda Research and Production Enterprise Joint Stock Company in the Moscow Region. The seat operates by pulling the pilot from the helicopter cabin using a solid-propellant rocket motor. The system comprises the seat, a control unit and a pullout rocket motor. The seat is fitted with a survival pack containing an NAZ-7M survival kit, a life raft and a PS-37A parachute system. The seat provides safe forced emergency escape from helicopters in the speed range 0 to 350 km/hour and at altitude 0 to 6,000 metres. The seat also provides safe ejection during inverted flight (at speeds 0 to 330 km/h with zero vertical velocity) at a minimum altitude of 90 metres. Pilot is ejected in max. six second."

http://www.military.cz/russia/air/helicopters/Ka_50/ka50_en.htm

no thanks keep your ex soviet junk..

AH-64 is by far a superior aircraft in aerobatics suvivablity and avionics and wep systems..

the only weakness to the OLDER Apaches was indeed sand killing turbines.

 

[waggy]

heh

they all look pretty cool though!

 

[ultimatebob]

Umm... The Apache Longbow can hide behind cover and can lock on and fire at several targets at once with it's radar. I doubt that your little Russian toy can do that yet.

 

[Qianglong]

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: Qianglong

Originally posted by: Tom

Originally posted by: Qianglong

Originally posted by: Tom
have to be a brave mofo to eject..

The rotors will be blown off by explosives first before the pilot ejects

really ? which way, sideways ?

"The Ka-50 is the world's first operational helicopter with a rescue ejection system, which allows pilot to escape at all altitudes and speeds. The K-37-800 Rocket Assisted Ejection System is manufactured by the Zvezda Research and Production Enterprise Joint Stock Company in the Moscow Region. The seat operates by pulling the pilot from the helicopter cabin using a solid-propellant rocket motor. The system comprises the seat, a control unit and a pullout rocket motor. The seat is fitted with a survival pack containing an NAZ-7M survival kit, a life raft and a PS-37A parachute system. The seat provides safe forced emergency escape from helicopters in the speed range 0 to 350 km/hour and at altitude 0 to 6,000 metres. The seat also provides safe ejection during inverted flight (at speeds 0 to 330 km/h with zero vertical velocity) at a minimum altitude of 90 metres. Pilot is ejected in max. six second."

http://www.military.cz/russia/air/helicopters/Ka_50/ka50_en.htm

no thanks keep your ex soviet junk..

AH-64 is by far a superior aircraft in aerobatics suvivablity and avionics and wep systems..

the only weakness to the OLDER Apaches was indeed sand killing turbines.

How about you come up with some numbers first before bashing all Russian Weapons are junk?

 

[mundane]

Too bad they axed the Commanche. We were doing some workload analysis for each Commanche controlling/coordinating a number of UAVs. The potential for that combination as a scouting platform was impressive.