The universe had a beginning.

[ThinClient]

You can hardly call being prepared by saying that what somebody else has said is wrong, yet offering to basis for what was said being wrong...

Also being wrong in whose eyes.....talk about a lack of education....

I have provided countless basis for correcting an incorrect statement.

Please, if I missed a question from you, post it again or quote it. I would be happy to address anything I missed, directly.

Stop being intentionally intellectually dishonest by accusing me with your lies.

 

[ThinClient]

Ok, whatever you're talking about, I'm just gonna keep on doing this my way, the same way I've done it for (all too many) years.

Best regards.

Can't we just go back to telling Rob M. and Pray to Jesus how wrong they are and then proving it with evidence every time they make some bullshit claim?

That was fun, right? You remember doing that? Come on, let's all hug and get back down to business here.

 

[Paratus]

Look I know I haven't been a part of this conversation but the simple fact is it's obvious I'm God.

A first person view of my entire life is encoded in HD h.264 in the number PI. Who else but God could put it there. Hmm it's also in the number e now that I think of it too. :hmm:

So boom proof!


() :sneaky:

 

[ThinClient]

I giggled.

 

[Retro Rob]

Wrong. Again.

I'm looking to have a conversation that I've had a thousand times. I'm looking to discuss popularly misunderstood topics by the religious crowd in an effort to educate them and free them from their willing ignorance of religious oppression.

Just because I and others prepared while you are not does not mean that I am a troll. It means that I and others are the ones throwing you the life saving float with a rope attached so that you aren't lost in the sea of willful ignorance and bronze age myth.

If you hate religion, the Bible, or whatever...that's your perogative. If you feel the need to educate and pull folks from the clutches of "Bronze-aged Myths", again, that's admirable as long as you do it in a respectful manner.

But I seriously doubt that you'd carry on a face-to-face conversation with a believer (or anyone else) in the same manner in which you post your thoughts here, calling people "religiotards", or telling Cerpin Taxt to "shut the fuck up" if you guys were having an informal conversation sitting at a bar.

I think you say things like that here because you wouldn't dream about saying it to people's faces...so this has become a place in which you can disperse your disquieting thoughts.

Just...stop it, please.

 

[ThinClient]

If you hate religion, the Bible, or whatever...that's your perogative. If you feel the need to educate and pull folks from the clutches of "Bronze-aged Myths", again, that's admirable as long as you do it in a respectful manner.

But I seriously doubt that you'd carry on a face-to-face conversation with a believer (or anyone else) in the same manner in which you post your thoughts here, calling people "religiotards", or telling Cerpin Taxt to "shut the fuck up" if you guys were having an informal conversation sitting at a bar.

I think you say things like that here because you wouldn't dream about saying it to people's faces...so this has become a place in which you can disperse your disquieting thoughts.

Just...stop it, please.

It really doesn't matter what you want to believe about my real life persona. All you're doing is ignoring the fact of the matter, going "LOOK OVER THERE!!" to avoid focusing on the fact that your beliefs are unfounded, irrational, illogical, and just plain stupid. You're like a magician trying to get the crowd not to look at the hand that's holding the facts of our replies.

I have had this very conversation with pastors of many local churches, random religious folks around town, on busses, at libraries, countless places for years. most of them civilized because MOST people usually aren't brazenly ignorant and cling to idiocy when they're shown the truth. Only the truly stubborn, truly brainwashed ones seem to take the stance you take in every single one of these threads.

Change the subject as many times as you like, but it doesn't change the fact that you're fucking wrong. The reason I treat you so poorly is because every SINGLE TIME these topics come up, you get schooled. Over. And over. And over. In the same way! About the same exact topic! You say something stupid, we all go "no no, that's not how it works, here let us tell you some stuff" to which you either ignore, like you've just done, or argue with irrational and illogical and obviously uneducated arguments.

In the end, you STILL refuse to change your belief even about something as ironclad as evolution because you're so far buried captive in your religion that you're unwilling to admit to yourself that you're living a lie. THAT is why we make fun of you and treat you poorly. You are INTENTIONALLY dishonest with yourself, those around you, and those you choose to engage in debate with.

 

[Retro Rob]

It really doesn't matter what you want to believe about my real life persona. All you're doing is ignoring the fact of the matter, going "LOOK OVER THERE!!" to avoid focusing on the fact that your beliefs are unfounded, irrational, illogical, and just plain stupid. You're like a magician trying to get the crowd not to look at the hand that's holding the facts of our replies.

Change the subject as many times as you like, but it doesn't change the fact that you're fucking wrong. The reason I treat you so poorly is because every SINGLE TIME these topics come up, you get schooled. Over. And over. And over. In the same way! About the same exact topic! You say something stupid, we all go "no no, that's not how it works, here let us tell you some stuff" to which you either ignore, like you've just done, or argue with irrational and illogical and obviously uneducated arguments.

In the end, you STILL refuse to change your belief even about something as ironclad as evolution because you're so far buried captive in your religion that you're unwilling to admit to yourself that you're living a lie. THAT is why we make fun of you and treat you poorly. You are INTENTIONALLY dishonest with yourself, those around you, and those you choose to engage in debate with.

Have you ever considered the idea that your tone is a reason why your message isn't going over so well?

Since you like Richard Dawkins, I was listening to a debate between he and Lennox, and he admitted (by simply agreeing, IIRC) that his tone often puts people off, and is a factor to why his points sometimes get ignored by the religious community in general.

Have you ever considered that this may be the case with you?

 

[ThinClient]

Have you ever considered the idea that your tone is a reason why your message isn't going over so well?

We've been over this, too. You are consistently irrational, I guess. Yes, I understand that people's fucking EGO is more important to them than fact and reason and logic. Yes, I realize that people are willing to completely reject reality unless the person presenting said reality kisses their ass while presenting it. I do not cater to these egomaniacs. Here are the facts. If you reject them, the onus is on you. YOU are the one being an idiot in that case and I have zero sympathy for you. It only makes me respect you less and criticize you more (because you deserve it).

Again, here you are, changing the subject instead of addressing the FACTS presented to you of the truth in evolution and the falsehoods, contradictions, and evils of the Bible.

Since you like Richard Dawkins, I was listening to a debate between he and Lennox, and he admitted (by simply agreeing, IIRC) that his tone often puts people off, and is a factor to why his points sometimes get ignored by the religious community in general.

Have you ever considered that this may be the case with you?

Right. My tone often puts off the egotistical religiotards, too.

Why, I think I'll just cry myself to sleep about it.

 

[hawtdawg]

If you could some how prove that our universe was created in some way, you'd still be no closer to validating the bible or Christianity, or any other religion. In fact, I think it would scare the shit out of you, because you'd be faced with the reality of your "beliefs" and start to wonder if someone elses "god" wasn't said creator.

 

[Retro Rob]

We've been over this, too. You are consistently irrational, I guess. Yes, I understand that people's fucking EGO is more important to them than fact and reason and logic. Yes, I realize that people are willing to completely reject reality unless the person presenting said reality kisses their ass while presenting it. I do not cater to these egomaniacs. Here are the facts. If you reject them, the onus is on you. YOU are the one being an idiot in that case and I have zero sympathy for you. It only makes me respect you less and criticize you more (because you deserve it).

Again, here you are, changing the subject instead of addressing the FACTS presented to you of the truth in evolution and the falsehoods, contradictions, and evils of the Bible.



Right. My tone often puts off the egotistical religiotards, too.

Why, I think I'll just cry myself to sleep about it.

Thinclient is to science as Bin-Laden was to the WTC.

 

[piasabird]

The further away we can see galaxies the more we can see. With Hubble some are so far away that they are older than we can possibly imagine. This is based on the amount of time it takes for light to travel.

It is only our narrow perception of time that makes us think the universe had a beginning. Our brains do not know how to perceive things outside of time and space as we know it.

I am not saying this is right or wrong.

 

[dphantom]

I dump out a huge bucket of pennies on to the floor, and then leaving them flat, I slide them all end to end and record the sides which face up, in sequence:

H = Heads, T = Tails

HHTTHTHHTHHTTTHHTTHHTHTHHHTHTHTHTHHTHHTTTHTTTHTHHTHTHTHTTTTTHTHTHTHHTHHT

Look! A code! God is talking to us!

That is not a code as it is meaningless. The genetic code is embedded in DNA as the medium of delivery.

 

[ThinClient]

Thinclient is to science as Bin-Laden was to the WTC.

Rob M. is to science what Bin-Laden was to the WTC.

 

[Phanuel]

Wait, so are we saying Laden was involved or not involved? I'm lost here.

 

[ThinClient]

Not at all, just throwing Rob's bullshit back at him until he decides to grow back up and continue debating like an adult. It's pretty rare.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I don't see Scientists killing each other.

I don't think you would get far with Oppenheimer and that statement.

 

[Onceler]

God created the universe.
Priests serving the political interests of the day created the bible.

 

[Pray To Jesus]

Again, here you are, changing the subject instead of addressing the FACTS presented to you of the truth in evolution and the falsehoods, contradictions, and evils of the Bible.

I looked into all those issues and there are no problems with any of them. You try to make them into problems, but in actuality they're not. You are unable to understand why they are not a problem because you are a bigot.

You are like a racist unable to understand why interracial marriage is not a problem.

 

[ThinClient]

I looked into all those issues and there are no problems with any of them. You try to make them into problems, but in actuality they're not. You are unable to understand why they are not a problem because you are a bigot.

You are like a racist unable to understand why interracial marriage is not a problem.

I looked into all those issues and there are lots of problems with all of them.

See? I can post pointless words too that carry zero weight with zero evidence or argument to back them up.

Get lost you brainwashed religiotarded failure.

 

[ThinClient]

God created the universe.

This is a positive claim with zero evidence to support the conclusion.

Fail.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Christians, so unlike their Christ. "Believe as I do or I will kill you!" seems to be their message.

 

[Onceler]

This is a positive claim with zero evidence to support the conclusion.

Show me evidence to the contrary.

 

[UberNeuman]

Show me evidence to the contrary.

The universe was here before you, the universe will go on with out you....

 

[Onceler]

The universe was here before you, the universe will go on with out you....

How does that prove whether or not there is a God?

 

[Phanuel]

You, Onceler, need to prove that god exists in the first place. It's not our job to provide evidence to the contrary until you have done so first. Burden of proof and all that jazz.