Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
First I will tell you that it doesn't always go as you say. Here in the town I live in - we recently(last couple of years) built a Super Walmart to replace the plain old Walmart. They built it in a somewhat undeveloped area - now there isn't hardly a free piece of commercial property near it. Menards already existed right across from it but we've added a Home Depot, a Gas station, a new bank, a Super Target, a car wash or two, Radio Shack, Kohls, IHOP, Hollywood video,Chilis, a new tire store just popped up, and just the other day a HUGE NEW sporting goods store opened it's doors. Now I know I'm missing a ton of smaller little shops like a craft store and the like but the point is that they all didn't exist just a few years ago. Infact there were only about 3-4 businesses in the area 3 years ago. The only "casualty" was a locally owned TV/appliance store who went under...but that was mainly their own fault from what I've heard and it wasn't in that area of town. Now Ankeny is about 35K people ATM. I quite enjoy having that amount of retail close by and that is only in one little section of town.
Now as to your contention that Walmart is bad for Albertson's and the others - I think you identified the problem they have. Care to guess what it is?What rendered them "non-competitive"?
Oh, and BTW - the Walton heirs while part of the cause of this - it wasn't directly them. After Sammy croaked - the company wasn't run by the family although they have a lot of stake in the company. Sam believed in selling American made products and up until he died - those that ran the corporation honored his wishes. Afterwards however - the almighty dollar kicked in as king. Is that a bad thing? Not necessarily, but it did alter their business style and product lines a bit. But like I said - although it isn't directly the fault of the heirs - they could have forced the company to run the way Sam wanted it to - and for that they get my scorn as they now can just kick back and live off of their share of the company.
Walmart has done alot of good things for America, but they aren't "perfect" for society. They are a business - businesses exist to provide goods/services and make money - I don't blame them for that.
CkG
Go back in 8 years and find a ghost of a shopping center, they're all over the place here. The only thing left standing is the Wal-Mart, even McDonalds leaves the location.
I have not seen that here.
Good, glad to see San An is staying nice and not going down the crapper.
Can still get a great steak along any of the Riverwalk Restaurants?
The RIverwalk is a tourist trap, I rarely go there. Plenty of good places for a steak.
That's wild. Here they put them up on every corner opposite the other corner where there is either a CVS, Walgreen or Eckerd.
Then all the other stores around become Ghost shells.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
One suggestion - move
CkG
That's what keeps happening. They call it Urban Sprawl but it's more like Urban blight.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
One suggestion - move
CkG
That's what keeps happening. They call it Urban Sprawl but it's more like Urban blight.
Guess they'll have to coin it as Emp-lanta instead of Hot-lanta - no?
Seriously Dave - I understand what you are trying to say but you seem to live in a place that has some serious issues - but it's not like that everywhere else. CkG
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
One suggestion - move
CkG
That's what keeps happening. They call it Urban Sprawl but it's more like Urban blight.
Guess they'll have to coin it as Emp-lanta instead of Hot-lanta - no?
CkG
Thank you, you've got this one right. It's all about as many Developers and Politicians and as much as they can fill their pockets at the expense of any planning whatsoever. Putting 20,000 houses on top of a 2 lane Country Road and bridge, purposely creating girdlock and wonder why all the people they expect to go to the shopping center that you can't get to move.
Sprawl*Mart, the american way to buy unamerican products
5 years ago i woulda been all for walmart, but now i think they're too big for they're own good. super duper duper super ugly box in the middle of nowhere. herd to the giant ugly rectangle for minimum wage jobs. we will pay you just enough so that you can live subsistence yes but never aspire for higher education, for you cannot afford it, but that's ok, walmart shall birth you, raise you, and BURY YOU
(all for the low-low price of $9.99)
5 years ago i woulda been all for walmart, but now i think they're too big for they're own good. super duper duper super ugly box in the middle of nowhere. herd to the giant ugly rectangle for minimum wage jobs. we will pay you just enough so that you can live subsistence yes but never aspire for higher education, for you cannot afford it, but that's ok, walmart shall birth you, raise you, and BURY YOU
(all for the low-low price of $9.99)
Walmart gives people what they want cheap and fast. This is the essence of capitalism, something newer and more efficient replacing something older and less efficient.
LunarRay
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So long as ALL goods and services consumed in the US are priced in relation to the Walmart price structure and ALL folks have their wages reduced accordingly and if it is contained within the borders of the US until there is a zero trade deficit.. then fine..
But, to maintain historic standard of living relationships all professions, crafts and labor must be reevaluated to the lowest common denominator. Housing prices and commodities and everything must be price reduced to accommodate this world wide capitalism.. negative inflation... or disinflation... this is what will equalize us with Chad and Ethiopia!
So are you saying that when CPU manufacturers create a CPU to be faster and less expensive that we all must suffer reduced wages?
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There is hardly a correlation between the two.. I'm not sure how you can compare what I said to what you said.. but, to be clear.. Notwithstanding what ever the CPU folks do, their wage should be adjusted downward and the price of CPU's adjusted downward as well so the Walmart Ee can buy it still and if you can reduce the price via technology to maintain your market, fine.. the point is that there is a relationship between what each job use to be paid (with in reason and by local) if you folks can see fit to reduce the wage of the cashier for no other reason than you can.. then I think. fine! All wages should be reduced to be equalized with the lowest common denominator.. We can start over with 1950 wage structures... but let us all start over.. not just a few. Or if you prefer.. then let us start with the wage of the Chadian.. I don't really care so long as there is no benefit derived by the Walmartization of a class of worker.. the concept is to never reduce the value of a job.. build upon it.. create jobs that meet the essential needs of the population.. a living wage.. for 'adult' workers.
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Robots we are.. it seems. Programed to only feel the thorn in our own foot.. So long as it hurts others we feel nothing.. When it crashes in on us we'll be fully robotized... unfeeling of our own misery.. The profit of our robotic prowess will be garnered into the coffers of those we most admire and aspire to be.. the rich and famous.. who are that way because we are that way... just dumber!
Cad, for one, is already fully robotized
But I digress... Is it strictly the prices? Can anyone give me an idea of some good deals you've gotten at Wal-Mart lately? Just off the top of your head -- some idea of these great prices you've taken advantage of. I'm curious what I'm missing out on.
What kind of question is that? It is a damn Grocery/general store not a United States betterment program. it is a big international company which has its seat in the US - what could be bad about that. And it certainly is good for the Waltons who if u count them as one entity are the richest in the world.
I treat Walmart like a big convenient store.
When I need an item or two....and it's after hours....I will goto one near me that's open 24 hours.
But I generally do my merchandise shopping elsewhere. And i certainly do NOT buy my groceries there.
When I need an item or two....and it's after hours....I will goto one near me that's open 24 hours.
But I generally do my merchandise shopping elsewhere. And i certainly do NOT buy my groceries there.
Before Wall Mart came to our small island town the locals paid $50 for a $5 item.
The opposition claimed that the money had to be kept in the town to keep prosparity, so buy from local merchants.
But local merchants went on vacation every year and spend their profits in Vegas.
And when they bought items, they bought from out of town.
So the opposition was a bunch of greedy crap which ripped us consumers off for years.
There are still local merchants in town that people who don't like Wall Mart can go to.
But many people vote with their feet as they walk into Wall Mart and buy.
So I don't see the vote here as being accurate since most voters appose Wall Mart.
But those oposers have most likely voted with their feet as they walked into Wall Mart and bought.
The opposition claimed that the money had to be kept in the town to keep prosparity, so buy from local merchants.
But local merchants went on vacation every year and spend their profits in Vegas.
And when they bought items, they bought from out of town.
So the opposition was a bunch of greedy crap which ripped us consumers off for years.
There are still local merchants in town that people who don't like Wall Mart can go to.
But many people vote with their feet as they walk into Wall Mart and buy.
So I don't see the vote here as being accurate since most voters appose Wall Mart.
But those oposers have most likely voted with their feet as they walked into Wall Mart and bought.
Hey, SOMEBODY has to employ all those laid off double-master degree engineers and programmers, middle managers, phd's, etc.
And SOMEBODY has to keep china afloat by selling to our newly formed masses of barely above the poverty level underclass.
Right?
And SOMEBODY has to keep china afloat by selling to our newly formed masses of barely above the poverty level underclass.
Right?
Admittedly now, my answer was based on anecdotal evidence (3 Wal-Mart openings in relatively samll towns). I can find nothing to back up my assertion nor can I find anything that I would consider "fact" to refute it. Lots of ranting, lots of "op-ed" about the "evil" Walmart, very little fact.
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