The ULTIMATE question: Why do people "really" hate boy bands?

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linuxboy

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<< do you talk that way in real life? how did Judo-Christian tradition come into an argument about boy bands??? >>



Of course; I find it to be a very effective means of communication. The great influences of modern thought are largely from the Greek, Roman, Hebrew, and Christian cultures. That influence is commonly called &quot; Judo (or Judeo)-Christian&quot; when referring to the more modern times or Greco-Roman when referring to older times. When you make the argument of just WHY people like what they like; it is imperative to adress the underlying forces driving them to act, i.e. their method of thinking, beliefs and experiences. In this case, the subject is music. Music is listened by people to influence their emotions and to alter their internal &quot;mood&quot;. They do this in a effort to achieve happiness. Not realizing the extent to which their rationality and reason can control emotions, people choose external means to affect change in their being. The type of music listened to in wholly dependednt on what the person hopes to gain from the experience. With that in mind, let me address exactly why the population is obsessed with this phenomenon of boy bands.

People, in general, are not at peace with themselves. They live their lives in a effort to find contentedness and to achive satisfaction. The boy bands were created to appease the appetites of the many silly teenage girls in the world. The creators clearly saw an opportunity to undertake a lucrative venture and to act in a manner that would create more money for them. It obviously was very successful. I shall continue and endeavor to explain the causes of general hatred of boy bands and partly why you seem to like them so much.

In existance today is a relatively small group of people who still live according to the philosophy of authentic realism (look it up, this is good stuff :)) These people recognize true beauty in artistic expression as well as what motivates the artist to perform. This motivation is essentially a need for expression of the artist and a need for him to put all his feelings and his state into art; be it music, poetry, writing, or paiting, it is all art. These people recognize that only one reality exists and that truth is truth. Another common conclusion is that truth is beauty and beauty is truth. Since they live by this code, they can not possibly enjoy the music. You stated &quot; fine, but why don't they like the people?&quot; and I reply: because the people are behind the music ! The people themselves are not true musicians. Their underlying motive is money and many can not respect that. The people dislike the music and since the members of the bands make up the music, the two are virtually unseparable. The members are not truth. They themselves live in a false life and their perception is clouded. Since that is true, their art is not art but utter crap and is therefore not liked by some.

This disliking leads a question I wished to address earlier. Namely, why you do enjoy the music. Despite your efforts to remain an individual, you, like many others, are a product of the teachings of modern sociey. You are in a state of intellectual insanity and can not recognize events and object for their true selves. You are unable to transcend your emotions and recognize that you have a choice to be free and to let your reason control your soul and to live your life in a state of perfect harmony.

You ask: is how I am now imperfect?
I say, yes.

another possible question: SO why do the people resort to calling names without having support?
They, themselves are on about the same level as you. They recognize the basic ideas and forces which shaped them but they rarely take the time to fully discover the reason behind their actions. To them it &quot;seems right&quot;.


enough babble for one post :)


Good day sir.

 

Hoeboy

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<< Great then you don't care that I think that you are a person who's frightened that he isn't cool, hip and happening. You also don't care that many of us know that you are nothing but a wannabe who follows the crowd like a little lost sheep. Unfortunately the crowd you follow is just a herd of headless sheep themselves whose main purpose in life is for the amusment of others who laugh heartily at your failed attempts to be someting, anything that might matter. >>

lol. i'm not cool and hip and happening? lol. coming from a person who still use the term &quot;hip and happening&quot; i dont think u're very &quot;hip and happening&quot; either. and dont speak for the crowd. dont use the word &quot;us&quot; or &quot;we&quot; because not everyone is ignorant. and look whose following the crowd? u gay bash on boybands cuz almost every guy is doing it. so whose jumping on the band wagon? and its funny how u talk about my taste of music like it'll doom me. get a life dude. posting a gagillion msgs dont get you knowledge. going out of that door will let u socialize and experience life on a personal level, not through the internet.
 

Madcowz

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Sorry Deeko, but I have absolute no respect for you or anyone who like the BSBs, Nsync or any of those boybands in that matter. Sure, I admit, some of their songs are catchy, but that's b/c they have the finest song writers backing them up who KNOW what these teenage girls want to hear. The music industry is just that... an industry; it's a business and it's all about money now. That is what spurted the growth of boy-bands. I can only respect bands who haven't been tainted by all the money that has gone into the music industry.
These music moguls know how to manipulate the teenage girl population and they are doing a damn fine job. And now they are milking the industry even further by catching young guys w/ song artists like Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera. Hell they shouldn't even be considered artists. Perhaps if they wrote their own songs and could actually sing. Now I'll admit aguilera has a good voice, but have you ever heard Britney Spears live, that is those rare times when she's not lip-singing? They are just a hot body backed up by talented song writers. Whore artists as I like to call them... they are simply selling their body, not their music.

I guess you don't understand WHY the the movie N Together was created. They were MAKING FUN of boy bands and showing how fake and stupid they are. That's why they had that other completely fake band in the movie, a fat dude in the group and stupid catchy lyrics in their songs.
And your point about how all guys bash them and call them gay might be partially true, but that arguement is moot b/c that is the same reason why all girls like them. Because all their girl friends like them, and you add in the fact that these boy bands WERE created to appeal to the teenage girl population, and you got a bunch of screaming prepubescent girls. These boybands are also having a negative effect on all these girls. Most of the chicks I know who are and were into these boy bands have or are turning out to be dykes and ditz's... I'm dead serious, It's quite a shame really.

And DON'T EVEN try putting up the defense that these boy bands write their own songs and create themselves b/c that is total BS. Lately their have been cover ups opted by their managers in order to tr to make us believe these are &quot;authentic&quot; bands. Now it's the cool thing to say that they wrote their own songs... the case here is that these bands come up w/ couple, maybe few lines and give it to the song writers to &quot;edit&quot; it... or should I say throw the junk away and rewrite it entirely. They have also tried to cover up the fact that they WERE in fact manufactored and formed from auditions. If my memory serves me write, the original backstreet boys were somewhat authentic and self-created, but than their managers realized they could actually make a lot of money so they decided to change their look, bring in a new member, and give them songs... the BSBs just went along for the ride.

Afterwards came NSYNC and 98 Degree's, and their is NO DOUBT in my mind that they were artificially manufactured. At least LFO doesn't deny it... they are as fake as Pamela Andersons boobs :)
 

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But you can't blame the members. Hell if someone came up to me and offered me millions of dollars to be in a boy band I'd say: &quot;where do I sign the contract&quot;.
 

Zucchini

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yo yo ma doesn't write his music, guess he's not a musician right? As for not playing instruments, well i guess opera singers aren't musicians at all. Hell, they don't write music either. People are just insecure about their sexuality:p Lousy arguements:p Everything is manufactuered, i doubt any band just appears out of thin air. If i really wanted to be a music snob i could call rap/rock/alternative/r&amp;b etc all useless noise, not music.. only classical music is worth anything. Electric guitars? Please... talk about one of the simplest instruments to learn.

and no, my friends don't sup up their cars. Mine is a stock civic lx 98 with a horrific coat of dirt/dust which i call paint shielding. Wasting money while in college not smart:p Ppl that supe up their cars generally listen to rap or techno.. if you don't know that, well you're just ignorant.
 

Deeko

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<< But do yourself a favor, get on Napster, download some Dokken or Van Halen or Zepplin. May the force be with you >>


I already have a few van halen and zepplin songs. I don't care for them. But I still think it's music, I still understand why people would like it, it's just not for me.



<< Sorry Deeko, but I have absolute no respect for you or anyone who like the BSBs, Nsync or any of those boybands in that matter. >>


Why? How can you possibly judge a person according to the type of music they listen to? Grow up....



<< Perhaps if they wrote their own songs and could actually sing >>


I just saw an interview with Christina on MTV, she said she did help write some of the songs on her first cd and didn't get credit, and she said that her next CD she will be writing most of the songs.



<< Most of the chicks I know who are and were into these boy bands have or are turning out to be dykes and ditz's... >>


There must be a WHOLE LOT of 'dykes and ditz's' then....



<< And DON'T EVEN try putting up the defense that these boy bands write their own songs and create themselves b/c that is total BS. >>


Show me your proof. I garuntee you they DID write the songs, and they DID create themselves. Why can't you people give it up already, it's the truth, what you people are doing is the same as me claiming that the Dallas Cowboys are going to the superbowl this year.



<< I guess you don't understand WHY the the movie N Together was created. They were MAKING FUN of boy bands and showing how fake and stupid they are. That's why they had that other completely fake band in the movie, a fat dude in the group and stupid catchy lyrics in their songs. >>


Thanx, I didn't see it or anything.....it's called 2Ge+ther, btw, and I am well aware of what it means. But just because they made the movie, does that automatically mean that the real boybands are fake?



<< If my memory serves me write, the original backstreet boys were somewhat authentic and self-created, but than their managers realized they could actually make a lot of money so they decided to change their look, bring in a new member, and give them songs >>


There originally was a different 5th member, but he wasn't getting along well with the rest of the group, so they replaced him with Kevin's cousin, Brian. They still weren't manufactured.



<< Afterwards came NSYNC and 98 Degree's, and their is NO DOUBT in my mind that they were artificially manufactured. At least LFO doesn't deny it... they are as fake as Pamela Andersons boobs >>


Well, guess what, you are wrong. nsync is the group that I have the MOST proof that they weren't manufactured, and 98 Degrees is the most like a real group(they have always written their songs, they are a true quartet, etc), and they have no affiliation at all with Pearlman. LFO is manufactured, maybe that's why they admit it? And maybe the others don't because they weren't? Yea...maybe that's it....
 

Hoeboy

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<< Sorry if I don't know the cool slang that all you posers copied from the Blacks to try and be as cool as they are (which will never happen).>>

so now we're getting all ignorant about racial issues? we have resorted to stereotyping on blacks and asians? come on now. can u make a good argument without resorting to anything hateful?

<< And I think I do speak for many here because I do spend a lot of time here reading and posting and I think I have my finger on the pulse of this crowd.>>

<< Oh I get out enough, enough to see that you and your type are spreading like the plague. Unfortunately for you, your type is given the same regard the plague is given. >>

somehow these two comments contradict each other. in other words you either spend too much time on here and DO represent the majority of ignorant haters, or you DO get out but you're so blind to the younger generation and ignorant to the fact that people have personal opinions and taste.


<< I bet you and your friends own Honda Civics, Accords and Acura?s. I bet they are all joked up in an attempt to make them look anything else but the POS Cars they actually are. >>

yeah like this has anything to do with the argument in the first place. come on red dawn! i thought after 10,000+ post, you'd have more experience in argument than that! so far you have shown me nothing but the fact that you're an ignorant, hateful, racist S.O.B!

<< The fact that you and your little cloven hoofed friends also like a genre of music created for the sole purpose of making money off of the teenage and pre teenage female population of America also displays your confusion over your sexuality too.>>

you're REALLY hurting my feelings. i'm gonna go cry now =( someone who still lives in the dark age is calling me gay. boo-hoo.

 

linuxboy

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Gentlemen, most of the support presented here has been very weak from an argumentative and philosophical point of view. I ask you to refer to my previous post and adress some of the issues I presented and your views on the matter. Personal attacks are completely unnecessary and are irrelevant.
 

seewhy

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Gee, this thread really showed how intolerant people are and how people just cannot accept and respect other people's taste. Yeah we know all those boy band are manufactured, there are so many of those in the past if you are old enough. They are always hot for one or two years, and no one ever notice them after that. Does their music suck?? Not any worst than any of those pop/popular music. I personanlly enjoys some of BSB and N'sync's songs, listen to them once a while, but I am sure after a while there are gonna be new pop songs to replace them. Am I gay?? Well, I am married and have a son. My point is, these boy band song may not be master piece, but hey they are ok, and there are made so that 50+% of population will like them, and IT IS OK TO LIKE THEM. Hey if you like music from Kiss, AC/DC...that's cool, but don't say you are the only one who knows and understands music and everyone else is idiot because they like something else. Music got different purpose for different people, for some people may be their entire life, but for me, it is a form of entertainment and isn't meant to be analyzed to death!!

Just by reading all the post here, you can clearly see that those who hates boy band to the extreme without real reason (some people here have legit reasons, for example, not liking their music and that is ok) falls in the following category.
1) They wish they can be like them
2) They wish their music career/music they like can have the success they have
3) They need to prove how manly they are by not associate themselve with them

You say they are only successful because they are good looking? Hey look around you, George Cloony (Spelling??) earns millions because he works hard?? Well, that's the way it is...just live with it!!

The worst happening here is the personal attack, and threatens people because you are certain level member in this forum...haha, get a life, people may respect you a little more if you earn some real status in the real world!!
 

Hoeboy

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<< Hoho, you misinformed idiot, the younger generation of America have been copying the styles and slang of the African American Population for years. We did it when we were young. >>

lol. once again name calling. &quot;we&quot; did it for years? i'm sorry red dawn but from your pix on the anandtech gallery, u look pretty damn old. i'm pretty sure when YOU were young, you were probably one of those pro-slave individuals considering all the ignorant, derogatory, and hateful comments you made thus far simply because there are people who dont have the same taste in music as you.

<< My my, aren't we special. What makes you think you represent the younger generation? All you represent are idiots that are looking to take offense at the slightest hint of anything you can use to try and make your case, and in this case its perceived racism. Nice try Flamega, the only problem is that it doesn't play that way.>>

yeah and who are you to represent the majority on this board or any other majority in the real world? and correct me if i'm wrong but did i not start this thread saying lets not resort to pointless accusations and comment? who busted out with calling people homosexuals and such?

<< Who is arguing, all I am doing is insulting a worthless whimpering punk who's trying his damndest to make me out as something I am not. For me to argue with you would mean that I care enough to change your mind. Trust me, I couldn?t care less about you if I tried than I do now. >>

uhm. that does not make sense. you care for me? aww how sweet. let me dedicate a BSB song to you. someone whose able to create a whole new word, &quot;damndest&quot; must be right!


<< Again, just because I say you and your friends drive POS Cars again doesn't mean that I am talking about Asians. Like I said earlier, how am I to know that you choose only to associate with Asians. In fact, look who?s stereotyping. Since when are Asians the only ones that make fools out of themselves with stupid looking modifications of their POS Cars? Where I come from the wankers that do that are of all races. The only thing they have in common is that they are buffoons like you. It doesn't matter if you are White, Black, Yellow or Pink. The fact that you are a Putz stands out above anything else.>>

lol. so in other words, people who like boy bands drive hondas and accords? one way or the other, u're still generalizing and making ignorant accusations. why can't you accept the fact that this argument has turned into a pointless bashing? and who decided to make it this way?

<< If you want to get into this flame then lets go. I don't recall saying anything to you and I sure as hell don't remember asking for your respect or your opinion. What's with you cheezy bastards who just drop in and think they can start lecturing us anyway? Go lecture your wife, your kids or your nieghbor. You have a PayPal account? I'll transfer you over $.35 so you can call someone who gives a sh!t what you think. >>

red dawn, SURPRISE! there are actually more people who share my thoughts! dont be hateful on them. remember i was the one who SUPPOSEDLY started the flaming? and you didnt like it. so why are you trying to start one with someone else now? wheres ALL the people you claim to represent??

btw, if i give you my paypal addie, will you transfer me the 35 cents? hey its a free stamp :) actually stamps are only 33 cents. i'll give you the change and with it, get a life ya?
 

seewhy

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Well, I am not angry enough to waste my energy and go into a flame war, plus it's not like I am crazy about the boy bands....but anyone who sees this thread can see that some people here is getting too emotional. Geezze, Hoeboy and the others can like whatever music/band they like, I also happen to like some of those boy band music, just don't think its fair to be &quot;Labeled&quot;....and some people seems to think they know all there is to know about music and whoever don't agree with them are idiot...what the h@ll!!
 

Madcowz

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yea this is getting too emotional... when I first saw this thread I laughed and was about to move on to a next thread, than I thought I would just go in for some laughs... but back to the issue, I don't think you guys get my point. I'm not bashing them b/c:
1) I wish I can be like them
2) I wish their music career/music they like can have the success they have
3) I need to prove how manly they are by not associate themselve with them

Boy bands represent all that is evil; the money grubbing corporate america... this is not how music should be. It's not music anymore, it's a big business. I said that I enjoy some of their music as they got some catchy tunes, but in NO way would I support a group that was brought up on money and greed. The same could be said about Metallica, but at least they worked their way up from a garage band, wrote their own lyrics, made good music, and earned their way to the top. These boy bands aren't earning millions b/c they worked their way up from starving artists and from working hard to get to where they are now. No, they just had to look good for auditions, and thereafter their managers did all the work for them. From supporting these groups, you are only making them bigger and showing the music moguls that this is in fact a huge market which will in turn spurt the growth and manufacturing of yet more boy bands... soon enough rock and jazz and country will follow the lead; is this what you want to happen?
 

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Man, haven't posted here in ages. But of course I just had to reply to this thread. ;)

Like what I read (i.e. skimmed) in this thread, it's commercialized. I'm a former choir director. I also had my own group for a while before we went our seperate directions. But one thing that I have always maintained, I make my own sh*t. If some stupid agent wants me to join up with 3 other &quot;pretty boys&quot;, sing lyrics that I claim are my own (but really isn't), dress up in stupid jump suits, hang from wires, and have them make a doll of me...I'd shoot him.

One more thing, I see boy bands (and female/girly acts for that matter) as singers and a commodity. No less, yet no more. No way will I presently view them as music artists. Not that they ever claimed they were, but I personally have no respect for them as a musician. They were either made or became sell-outs. I can never live with that if I took that path.

Well, there's my two cents.

-Rich
 

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There are several reasons why people hate boy bands. Most of this hate comes from males:

1. Many guys perceive them as homosexual (perhaps because they're usually pretty boys and prettier than their haters will ever be), even though events in their lives proves to the contrary.:D

2. Their vocal talent seems marginal and they don't play instruments. They seem more visual than anything.;)

3. The music they release is superficial and jarring formulated pop. And they sing sappy love songs which makes many boys and men uncomfortable for some reason. Many people would rather stick pins in their eyes than listen to that stuff.:eek:

4. They are acts and groups manufactured and formulated by record execs:eek:

5. Jealousy... They are rich and they get to bang chicks like Britney Spears and Jessica Simpson, and besides that, they can get women to do whatever they want. IF that's not a straight guy's dream, I don't know what is.:D

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