The Tulsi Disgrace

[Vic]

They don’t need to.

They certainly are the general public in red states

Democrats have also self gerrymandered themselves. Gerrymandering didn’t cause Democrats to lose the Rust Belt.

It's fun how your only argument here is to twist logic in order to assert that 2 wrongs make a right, but yet you still somehow seem to consider yourself a moral person.

 

[Vic]

you’re right they don’t need a majority of votes in order to gain power and look where this has gotten us, an ultra right wing extremist party that is contemptuous of science, facts, and is now engaging in rampant, naked corruption on a scale never before seen in the US.

maybe that’s a sign the current system is bad.

You left out the part of how contemptuous that pluralistic minority is of the majority of Americans, to the extent that they often don't even consider that majority to be Americans, but I digress.

 

[Starbuck1975]

It's fun how your only argument here is to twist logic in order to assert that 2 wrongs make a right, but yet you still somehow seem to consider yourself a moral person.

You use the most beautiful straw

 

[Vic]

You use the most beautiful straw

Thank you.

Which was the straw? 2 wrongs making a right, or that you consider yourself to be a moral person?

 

[zinfamous]

Field the team that puts Americas workers first and we'll be rewarded.

So, never the GOP, ever--but only if you go with every single policy that they have ever supported.

 

[Victorian Gray]

He forgot about the tea party already.

No he didn't.

 

[ch33zw1z]

It's fun how your only argument here is to twist logic in order to assert that 2 wrongs make a right, but yet you still somehow seem to consider yourself a moral person.

And, some states in the rust belt are heavy on the GOP gerrymandering.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Wait wut?

Should have clarified. I don’t recall a huge push from Democrats to reform the electoral college after Obama won the White House. The lamentations of electoral injustice only seem to come from the losing party.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Should have clarified. I don’t recall a huge push from Democrats to reform the electoral college after Obama won the White House. The lamentations of electoral injustice only seem to come from the losing party.

Ah #bothsides

 

[ch33zw1z]

Ah #bothsides

In the GOP's case, they scream electoral injustice even while winning elections. So persecuted.

 

[Vic]

Ah #bothsides

It's the Democrats' fault for dressing provocatively.

 

[ivwshane]

Should have clarified. I don’t recall a huge push from Democrats to reform the electoral college after Obama won the White House. The lamentations of electoral injustice only seem to come from the losing party.

You don’t recall a push for reforming the electoral college when the election results mirrored the popular vote? Hmm... that’s puzzling.

What other insightful observations can you add? What’s next? Are you going to tell us it’s only the left who complains about the EC? I’m sure it has nothing to do with the fact that only candidates on the left have won the popular vote while losing the EC vote.

Critical thinking isn’t another way to say thinking is dangerous.

 

[fskimospy]

Should have clarified. I don’t recall a huge push from Democrats to reform the electoral college after Obama won the White House. The lamentations of electoral injustice only seem to come from the losing party.

Have you thought about why those are different?

 

[ivwshane]

Have you thought about why those are different?

You are a silly man!

 

[Starbuck1975]

Have you thought about why those are different?

Our electoral system does not necessitate a popular vote victory, by design. The difference is electoral victory vs defeat. Evoking the popular vote after electoral defeat is just sour grapes. You may have more touchdowns, but that doesn’t matter if your opponent beats you on points with field goals.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Ah #bothsides

No, just #sourgrapes

 

[Starbuck1975]

You are a silly man!

The rules are so unfair! #tantrum

 

[fskimospy]

Our electoral system does not necessitate a popular vote victory, by design. The difference is electoral victory vs defeat. Evoking the popular vote after electoral defeat is just sour grapes. You may have more touchdowns, but that doesn’t matter if your opponent beats you on points with field goals.

what does this have to do with my point.

 

[Jhhnn]

Only a fool would think that is meaningless. If presidential elections don’t consistently track what the majority of voters want they will lose legitimacy and the system will collapse.

We are a democracy. What the most people want is at the heart of why our system exists.

Trump DGAF & neither does the GOP. They think it's perfectly fine to gerrymander, impose discriminatory voter ID, twiddle with the census, Exploit the EC, solicit foreign election interference & whatever they can get away with to execute their far right policy agenda.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Our electoral system does not necessitate a popular vote victory, by design. The difference is electoral victory vs defeat. Evoking the popular vote after electoral defeat is just sour grapes. You may have more touchdowns, but that doesn’t matter if your opponent beats you on points with field goals.

That analogy has nothing to do with anything.....rofl

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Seems to be doubling down on The Stupid.

Tulsi Gabbard Says Donald Trump Is 'Unfit to Serve' After President Commends Her For Voting 'Present' on Impeachment

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard says impeachment will only 'embolden' Trump

Why do 'kind of hot' and 'really stupid' seem to always go together?

 

[Starbuck1975]

That analogy has nothing to do with anything.....rofl

Then you should find it highly relatable. You’re right though, we should revert back to an over abundance of concern for Tulsi Gabbard.

 

[Starbuck1975]

what does this have to do with my point.

I responded to your question as posed. Within the context of this thread, there is a subset of the Democrat coalition that rejects globalism, military interventionism, the military industial complex and, while they reject Trump, they also see impeachment as a distraction that potentially helps Trump more than it harms them.

Tulsi is speaking to that subset. Dismiss them, and they splinter off.

 

[fskimospy]

I responded to your question as posed. Within the context of this thread, there is a subset of the Democrat coalition that rejects globalism, military interventionism, the military industial complex and, while they reject Trump, they also see impeachment as a distraction that potentially helps Trump more than it harms them.

Tulsi is speaking to that subset. Dismiss them, and they splinter off.

Tulsi polls at around 1-2% among those who identify as Democrats, which is statistically indistinguishable from zero so no, there really isn’t, haha.

The primary source of what little support she has among democratic primary voters are those who identify as Republicans but happen to live in states with open primaries. Ie: people who aren’t going to actually vote for a democrat anyway.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Tulsi polls at around 1-2% among those who identify as Democrats, which is statistically indistinguishable from zero so no, there really isn’t, haha.

The primary source of what little support she has among democratic primary voters are those who identify as Republicans but happen to live in states with open primaries. Ie: people who aren’t going to actually vote for a democrat anyway.

That puts her in the Yang, Booker and Castro tier. I don’t hear many people questioning the legitimacy of their candidacies.