The Truth About Socialism

[MajinCry]

Most ATOT "socialists" are capitalists who believe in some socialization for a social safety net.

I haven't seen anybody taking about setting up a command economy or separating the means of production from private hands or revoking private ownership of land.

'socialism' in the US is a bogeyman in the right wing delusional fantasy.

When left wingers look at Denmark or Norway or some other country that they admire, those countries are actual Capitalist countries with private property, private businesses, and free and open stock markets.

The removal of private property and businesses is not socialist, that's communist.

And the reason why Venezuela is in the state we now find it, is due to two things. The first being that their oil-backed economy cratered, following the price of oil, which meant that there's suddenly no money to fund social services.

The other factor, is America trying it's best to subvert Venezuela. Remember that failed coup? It doesn't start nor end there, that's just the most obvious attempt by the US to destabilize the country.

 

[nickqt]

Except every socialist, communist , progressive and most Democrats.

You're a fucking idiot.

 

[UNCjigga]

The other factor, is America trying it's best to subvert Venezuela. Remember that failed coup? It doesn't start nor end there, that's just the most obvious attempt by the US to destabilize the country.

Hey now, I read "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" too, but Venezuela's current crisis has very little to do with American meddling. They created this mess themselves, and made it worse by flouting the rule of law. And I don't blame a little meddling after Chavez' decided to repatriate American Investments.

 

[FIVR]

You got a tl:dr? I don't have time for rambling walls of text.

 

[interchange]

When your whole economy depends on foreign trade of oil and other countries build increasing energy Independence and levy new technologies for production dropping cost of crude oil precipitously, you're gonna get hosed. The socialism and corruption didn't do them any favors either.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

The whole income inequality is working just fine. Don't believe me? Go as a few dozen rich folk.

 

[bshole]

Except every socialist, communist , progressive and most Democrats.

Most left wingers in America want European style socialism. This is surely not a secret to you. We speak admiringly about their systems ad nauseum. I don't believe I have heard a left winger speak of Venezuela in positive tones. So given that we have openly told you what we want, why do you point at something that we don't want and say that is what we want? You sound like a presuppositionalist telling us that we KNOW that the Christian God exists.

 

[bshole]

You will notice that "the truth about socialism" won't touch Canada or Western Europe with a ten foot pole. Why ever could that be?

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Most left wingers in America want European style socialism. This is surely not a secret to you. We speak admiringly about their systems ad nauseum. I don't believe I have heard a left winger speak of Venezuela in positive tones. So given that we have openly told you what we want, why do you point at something that we don't want and say that is what we want? You sound like a presuppositionalist telling us that we KNOW that the Christian God exists.

They used to, especially craig234, but as things got worse and worse and Chavez got crazier and crazier they pretended to get a little distance from the impact zone. Chavez started out as every Democrat/socialists wet dream and then turned into the nasty authoritarian dictator that they always seem to turn into, from Chavez to Castro to Mao to Pol Pot. They always seem the think "if he just did socialism the right way, everything would be perfect" and it never is.

 

[zinfamous]

Except every socialist, communist , progressive and most Democrats.

I see you got lost on your way to the hammer store, yet again. Come on man, back in the cage with you.

 

[zinfamous]

Dear diary,

They used to, especially craig234, but as things got worse and worse and Chavez got crazier and crazier they pretended to get a little distance from the impact zone. Chavez started out as every Democrat/socialists wet dream and then turned into the nasty authoritarian dictator that they always seem to turn into, from Chavez to Castro to Mao to Pol Pot. They always seem the think "if he just did socialism the right way, everything would be perfect" and it never is.

..today I shit my pants, and called it an original thought.

-tajmahal.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

"Things I shit out of my pants today"

by tajmahal.

You? *FLUSH*

 

[Victorian Gray]

Hail Trump!

They used to, especially craig234, but as things got worse and worse and Chavez got crazier and crazier they pretended to get a little distance from the impact zone. Chavez started out as every Democrat/socialists wet dream and then turned into the nasty authoritarian dictator that they always seem to turn into, from Chavez to Castro to Mao to Pol Pot. They always seem the think "if he just did socialism the right way, everything would be perfect" and it never is.

 

[zinfamous]

You? *FLUSH*

I think the edit is much better, but you can have it. It's been a couple of fucking awful years for you, and it's only getting worse, I'm sure. Must suck having so many people in your life that just can't stand you anymore.

 

[bshole]

They used to, especially craig234, but as things got worse and worse and Chavez got crazier and crazier they pretended to get a little distance from the impact zone. Chavez started out as every Democrat/socialists wet dream and then turned into the nasty authoritarian dictator that they always seem to turn into, from Chavez to Castro to Mao to Pol Pot. They always seem the think "if he just did socialism the right way, everything would be perfect" and it never is.

So just going to ignore Western Europe and Canada? Well played. You got us. Yes that is what we want, a third world autocracy. We just don't like to talk about it...... EVER.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

I think the edit is much better, but you can have it. It's been a couple of fucking awful years for you, and it's only getting worse, I'm sure. Must suck having so many people in your life that just can't stand you anymore.

Last couple years have been great in my life, don't kid yourself. Friends, family, extended family, kids and grandkids have been a real treat. Retired and loving it, moved from California to Texas and have never looked back. Was totally caught by surprise when Republicans won the presidency on November 9th, 2016 AND retained control of the freaking Senate! I thought that Hillary was going to be president and that Democrats would win a 3 or 4 vote margin in the Senate. It never happened, every single day since then has been a pleasure, every single day.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

So just going to ignore Western Europe and Canada? Well played. You got us. Yes that is what we want, a third world autocracy. We just don't like to talk about it...... EVER.

It's Europe bshole, it makes a difference.

 

[zinfamous]

Last couple years have been great in my life, don't kid yourself. Friends, family, extended family, kids and grandkids have been a real treat. Retired and loving it, moved from California to Texas and have never looked back. Was totally caught by surprise when Republicans won the presidency on November 9th, 2016 AND retained control of the freaking Senate! I thought that Hillary was going to be president and that Democrats would win a 3 or 4 vote margin in the Senate. It never happened, every single day since then has been a pleasure, every single day.

In all of this euphoria, did you forget to get your prostate checked?

 

[zinfamous]

It's Europe bshole, it makes a difference.

oh right, so you've already ignored your broad claim about "the others" and what they think of "vial socialism."

you're such a useless tool.

 

[bshole]

In all of this euphoria, did you forget to get your prostate checked?

I am 52 and I am only sending in a sample. Kinda afraid to get the full test.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

In all of this euphoria, did you forget to get your prostate checked?

Nope, My doctor checks PSA levels every year. I get other uncomfortable procedures done regularly. Healthy and happy. Bless your concern.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

oh right, so you've already ignored your broad claim about "the others" and what they think of "vial socialism."

you're such a useless tool.

You're such a bubbling cesspool of hate. No wonder you love the swamp.

 

[brycejones]

You're such a bubbling cesspool of hate. No wonder you love the swamp.

So much projection

 

[Victorian Gray]

In all of this euphoria, did you forget to get your prostate checked?

His head was in the way.

 

[interchange]

Chavez started out as every Democrat/socialists wet dream and then turned into the nasty authoritarian dictator that they always seem to turn into, from Chavez to Castro to Mao to Pol Pot.

Trump started out as every far right/populist wet dream and then turned into...