The Trump regime has edited constitution.congress.gov

[fskimospy]

Who needs to follow the Constitution

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See THIS is the sort of thing to be outraged about!

 

[HomerJS]

See THIS is the sort of thing to be outraged about!

You fail to understand how the brains of Trumpers are slowly being boiled. The absence of entire sections of the Constitution leads them to believe they don't exist. Therefore, they conclude Trump is doing nothing wrong. That's exactly why they don't know due process is for everyone not just citizens.

 

[fskimospy]

You fail to understand how the brains of Trumpers are slowly being boiled. The absence of entire sections of the Constitution leads them to believe they don't exist. Therefore, they conclude Trump is doing nothing wrong. That's exactly why they don't know due process is for everyone not just citizens.

That is not even remotely why they conclude Trump is doing nothing wrong.

First, it's not like those guys were sitting around being like 'I wonder what article 1 section 9 says, I'll go to this one specific website!'. Second, I see this a lot where people think civics education is the solution here as if people don't know what is in the Constitution. The problem is not a lack of knowledge, the problem is they don't care. If you attempt to educate them they will ignore you or fight you.

The best and easiest example of this was the 2020 election. Remember, the entire reason Fox got decimated in the Dominion lawsuit is because they briefly attempted to stop lying to their audience and when they did that the audience revolted and left. That's when they made a conscious choice to return to lying and that's what got them in trouble because it was documented.

 

[nakedfrog]

As I've said before, they're already very adept at picking and choosing the parts of the Bible they like, a document allegedly authored by god, what chance does the Constitution have?

 

[HomerJS]

That is not even remotely why they conclude Trump is doing nothing wrong.

First, it's not like those guys were sitting around being like 'I wonder what article 1 section 9 says, I'll go to this one specific website!'. Second, I see this a lot where people think civics education is the solution here as if people don't know what is in the Constitution. The problem is not a lack of knowledge, the problem is they don't care. If you attempt to educate them they will ignore you or fight you.

The best and easiest example of this was the 2020 election. Remember, the entire reason Fox got decimated in the Dominion lawsuit is because they briefly attempted to stop lying to their audience and when they did that the audience revolted and left. That's when they made a conscious choice to return to lying and that's what got them in trouble because it was documented.

You are correct they don't care but I would argue it is both. It is a cult steeped in ignorance. Trump tells them what to care about. That's why 50% of Republicans once said Obama was born in Kenya.

 

[fskimospy]

You are correct they don't care but I would argue it is both. It is a cult steeped in ignorance. Trump tells them what to care about. That's why 50% of Republicans once said Obama was born in Kenya.

I am always wary of poll results that ask crazy things like that because often times people use them as a proxy for 'I don't like person X'. I'm sure a disturbingly high percentage of Republicans do actually believe Obama was born in Kenya but I bet it's substantially below 50%.

In my experience the real giveaway is how if one lie no longer becomes tenable they will just move to a new lie without any acknowledgement of the previous one. They obviously remember that they said that before, they just pretend it never happened.

 

[HomerJS]

I am always wary of poll results that ask crazy things like that because often times people use them as a proxy for 'I don't like person X'. I'm sure a disturbingly high percentage of Republicans do actually believe Obama was born in Kenya but I bet it's substantially below 50%.

In my experience the real giveaway is how if one lie no longer becomes tenable they will just move to a new lie without any acknowledgement of the previous one. They obviously remember that they said that before, they just pretend it never happened.

Forget polls for a second. To show you those people only parrot what Trump tells them what percent of them think Jan 6 was not an attempted insurrection? My guess? 30-50%. And we all saw that live when it happened.

 

[Jaskalas]

Told you all constitution means jack shit.

It never did.
The Constitution was only ever a written agreement of cooperation.
It required the consent of the governed. It required a civil society with respect for the rule of law.
That is America no longer. Not after the ascent of MAGA Nazis.

They will dismantle it, or we will. This is war.

 

[dank69]

Who needs to follow the Constitution

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This would have a minimal effect on red v. blue EC votes and House seats. The two states most affected by this, for example, would be CA and TX and would basically cancel each other out.

 

[HomerJS]

This would have a minimal effect on red v. blue EC votes and House seats. The two states most affected by this, for example, would be CA and TX and would basically cancel each other out.

Not the point. If he can ignore this part, what other parts can he ignore?

 

[dank69]

Not the point. If he can ignore this part, what other parts can he ignore?

No dispute there, just pointing out that isn't going to affect the EC or seat count, if that is their aim. They are certainly stupid enough to not know that, but it's also likely they are doing it for other reasons, like simple xenophobia.

 

[nakedfrog]

Another example of "fiscal responsibility" and "government efficiency" to have an extra census cycle

 

[Pens1566]

This would have a minimal effect on red v. blue EC votes and House seats. The two states most affected by this, for example, would be CA and TX and would basically cancel each other out.

I'm not sure on the exact balance between those 2 states when it comes to persons vs citizens, but the EC area I'd be more concerned with is pushing the balance even further to the right in terms of Ds vs Rs when it comes to state delegations.

You know, in case something gets thrown to the House for some silly reason like the results in '26 or '28 being called into question.

 

[IronWing]

Another example of "fiscal responsibility" and "government efficiency" to have an extra census cycle

When we conducted the new census we were astonished to find that Wyoming had previously been undercounted by thirty seven million people.

 

[pete6032]

I wonder what the programmer who deleted the text was thinking? Were they afraid to not comply or were they thinking they were being cheeky edgelords?

 

[nakedfrog]

I wonder what the programmer who deleted the text was thinking? Were they afraid to not comply or were they thinking they were being cheeky edgelords?

For all we know it's a recent hire for whom being a cheeky edgelord was considered a positive.

 

[DZero]

Spot the differences
Congress website

https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/

vs
Senate Website

U.S. Senate: Constitution of the United States

Constitution of the United States

www.senate.gov

archives

The Constitution of the United States: A Transcription

Note: The following text is a transcription of the Constitution as it was inscribed by Jacob Shallus on parchment (the document on display in the Rotunda at the National Archives Museum). The spelling and punctuation reflect the original.

www.archives.gov

You will notice that congress website, the site most likely to be scraped by LLM/AI companies has been edited to remove
Section 9 and Section 10 under Article I of the constitution.

Digest this and figure out the consequences and why the people behind Trump are intensely pushing for AI infrastructure.
This has huge actual impact due to the shift to AI based sources of information and what's happening in the higher education system in the US.

This is actually terrifying when you look at the big picture and where we are going as a society where we are being funneled to rely on a very small number of AI companies controlled by a very small number of people, enabled by a government that is embracing the destruction of the legal frameworks and compass that built this society.
I'm not being dramatic

Worst mistake ever, China or Russia kidnap those key people and the AI in the US is royally screwed. Or some lone wolves attacks them all and force them to be on a bunker, losing the most appreciated thing in the world: freedom.

 

[Moonbeam]

Again, who gives a shit? The Constitution and laws don't depend on if they're on a website. It literally means nothing.
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We have huge problems with Republicans ignoring laws and the Constitution but it's not because those laws aren't posted on the right website or whatever.sue is no big deal.

God damn you, Man. Here I was about to cast myself into a deep well of self absorbed self pity and self woe that allows me to weep over the real misery of my condition and the wonderful high that goes with victim mentality and you tell me the website thingi is no big deal. Have some compassion, please.

 

[Moonbeam]

At a fundamental level the Constitution is an antiauthoritarian document designed to protect the American people from authoritarians like Trump. It’s a big job turning the truth that authoritarianism is evil into it is good. But we know it’s always possible. When a free society means free to act only in your own selfish interest and authoritarian with exactly those same motives can appear and lie that he or she will fix things for you. The miserable will support him and those who only thought of themselves in the past are to blame. Were you ever a person who wanted to change our competitive system to one that cared for the least among us first. Don’t blame if you can’t look in the mirror.

 

[Muse]

Soon it'll be election laws..

With a combination of executive orders, legal maneuvers and staffing decisions, President Donald Trump has already put in motion his next effort to subvert upcoming federal elections in 2026 and 2028.

Since taking office, Trump has installed loyalists who follow his orders into key positions at the Department of Justice, issued executive orders centralizing decision-making within the White House, attempted to unilaterally change state and local election laws, demanded unprecedented access to voter data, dismantled election security protections, threatened elections officials and workers, law firms and others who have historically stood up to protect elections and defended, hired or pardoned those involved in previous efforts to subvert elections.


He said doing illegal shit that saves the country is justified. AKA whatever he deems beneficial is beneficial, fuck the rest. Laws don't mean shit. Executive orders rule. End of story.

 

[soulcougher73]

Look, I like all you guys but you are being crazy here.

Could it be this was just to test the waters to find people like you who don’t care. You give them an inch, don’t be surprised when they take a mile.

 

[Muse]

Also copies of the constitution are available on lots of other government sites and are apparently unaltered. When they were implementing their dastardly plan is there any reason why they only did it to one of many many copies?

I figure the C is the C. They can fuck with it all they want in a bullshit attempt to obfuscate, but the law is still the law.

 

[Muse]

There needs to be a way to check the power of the POTUS with respect to executive orders. Possibly an amendment that stipulates that the SCOTUS can rule that an EO isn't justified. Or, hopefully, something better. A simple vote of the Supremes is way to weak a means of checking the authority of the White House, as we've clearing observed this year.

 

[Moonbeam]

It seems to me what the Constitution may actually intend ultimately it does not matter when 7 people most of who are infected with the belief it should say what they want it to say get to impose on a whole nation their own vision without regard to president or decent respect for the will of the people. They are ideologists and untouchable.

 

[Muse]

It seems to me what the Constitution may actually intend ultimately it does not matter when 7 people most of who are infected with the belief it should say what they want it to say get to impose on a whole nation their own vision without regard to president or decent respect for the will of the people. They are ideologists and untouchable.

Presently the SCOTUS is comprised of 9 justices.