The Troopergate thread.

Moonbeam

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I hope she is totally nailed or completely vindicated. And, of course, whichever way it goes is the truth.
 

Moonbeam

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You'd totally not nail her. She wouldn't even notice you exist any more than you notice she's a human being and not some lump of flesh put on earth for you to drool over like something that crawled out from under a rock. Have a little respect. I know you don't know what it means so check it out in the dictionary. Have a little dignity and a little modesty for the love of God.
 

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Originally posted by: dennilfloss
Because it's now October, so we can expect some surprises. :D

Here's one:

http://mudflats.wordpress.com/...-flips-like-a-pancake/

Let's watch what else unfolds and post them here.

Wow. If this is true it's pretty damn big.

I?ve been waiting for this one. One of the witnesses called by Stephen Branchflower (independent investigator of the legitimate Troopergate investigation) put herself in a tricky spot.

Murlene Wilkes, owner of Harbor Adjusting Services, and holder of a $1.2 million/yr. contract with the State of Alaska to handle workers compensation claims, apparently told a big fat fib. When Branchflower asked her if the governor?s office had ever asked her to deny a workers compensation claim for Palin?s ex-brother-in-law Trooper Mike Wooten (the trooper in ?Troopergate?), she said no. Never. Really.

Mike Wooten, of course, is involved in a bitter custody dispute with Palin?s sister Molly. The Palins do not like him. Some say they have made a vengeful and personal sport out of ruining his career.

Problem is, that there are actually honest people in the world?.and one of them works for Murlene Wilkes at Harbor Investments. This unnamed worker made a little phone call to the tip line that Branchflower set up at the beginning of the investigation. According to the tipster, yes indeed, the governor?s office DID put pressure to deny the claim.

Hard evidence contradicting sworn testimony has a certain effect on people. Murlene Wilkes, faced with this situation, decided to change her testimony according to a report in The Public Record. Now, with the little extra incentive of avoiding perjury charges, she has admitted that she was asked to deny the claim - at the direct request of Sarah and Todd Palin.




 

heyheybooboo

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: dennilfloss
Because it's now October, so we can expect some surprises. :D

Here's one:

http://mudflats.wordpress.com/...-flips-like-a-pancake/

Let's watch what else unfolds and post them here.

Wow. If this is true it's pretty damn big.

I?ve been waiting for this one. One of the witnesses called by Stephen Branchflower (independent investigator of the legitimate Troopergate investigation) put herself in a tricky spot.

Murlene Wilkes, owner of Harbor Adjusting Services, and holder of a $1.2 million/yr. contract with the State of Alaska to handle workers compensation claims, apparently told a big fat fib. When Branchflower asked her if the governor?s office had ever asked her to deny a workers compensation claim for Palin?s ex-brother-in-law Trooper Mike Wooten (the trooper in ?Troopergate?), she said no. Never. Really.

Mike Wooten, of course, is involved in a bitter custody dispute with Palin?s sister Molly. The Palins do not like him. Some say they have made a vengeful and personal sport out of ruining his career.

Problem is, that there are actually honest people in the world?.and one of them works for Murlene Wilkes at Harbor Investments. This unnamed worker made a little phone call to the tip line that Branchflower set up at the beginning of the investigation. According to the tipster, yes indeed, the governor?s office DID put pressure to deny the claim.

Hard evidence contradicting sworn testimony has a certain effect on people. Murlene Wilkes, faced with this situation, decided to change her testimony according to a report in The Public Record. Now, with the little extra incentive of avoiding perjury charges, she has admitted that she was asked to deny the claim - at the direct request of Sarah and Todd Palin.

:shocked:

Wilkes recently succeeded in renewing her company?s $1.2 million state contract despite lower competing bids. When the contract was renewed this year, Wilkes?s firm got a raise to $1.5 million even though there were at least three other bids that came in at $1.2 million.


""Well, dagnammit, Judge, you betcha I'm just a Main Street Maverick and that $300,000.00 had nothing to do with my previous misleading and incorrect testimony.""
 

Robor

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But, but, but she is a maverick and she's going to fight those elite corrupt politicians in Washington.
 

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Originally posted by: dennilfloss
Because it's now October, so we can expect some surprises. :D

Here's one:

http://mudflats.wordpress.com/...-flips-like-a-pancake/

Let's watch what else unfolds and post them here.

Interesting find, cavity fighting man.

Palin seems so naive on tv, yet, behind the scenes she fights. Or, erm, is that Todd Palin doing the fighting?

Anyway, this stuff should be slightly helpful to Obama, but the McCain/Palin ticket now appears to be headed for an ass whooping primarily because of the economy.

-Robert

 

Lemon law

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Palin seems to have a record of these type of power plays and seemingly maintains an enemies list. This became somewhat apparent, early on, with the attempted firing of the Wasulla town librarian. And in MHO, Palin has showed herself to be totally despicable by ordering State employees not to testify.

Just as we are about to get rid of Dick Cheney, Palin steps up and tries to be both Dick Cheney and Gonzales, all rolled up into one.

When the troopergate report comes out in a week or two, its very hard for me to think it will be anything but very damning for Sarah Palin. For McCain, when it rains, it pours. More salt on open wounds.
 

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I also happened to have another thought about the Palin censorship of troopergate. What its likely to do is limit a complete and unbiased investigation. Meaning the only things that come up completely investigated are a few items such as collusion over workman's compensation agencies.

Compare it to the long previous OJ Simson murder trial. Where the dream team defense got OJ off by blunted DNA evidence and basically allowing the prosecution to give the jury information overload. And at the end of the day, got OJ off on a if the gloves don't fit you must acquit.

If Moonbeam wants a clear cut binary result, the Palin camp offers no defense, and denies itself the chance to baffle with bullshit.
 

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
Palin seems to have a record of these type of power plays and seemingly maintains an enemies list. This became somewhat apparent, early on, with the attempted firing of the Wasulla town librarian. And in MHO, Palin has showed herself to be totally despicable by ordering State employees not to testify.

Just as we are about to get rid of Dick Cheney, Palin steps up and tries to be both Dick Cheney and Gonzales, all rolled up into one.

When the troopergate report comes out in a week or two, its very hard for me to think it will be anything but very damning for Sarah Palin. For McCain, when it rains, it pours. More salt on open wounds.

We know that it will be negative - the people doing the investigation stated as such before they heard testimony.

Now, is there evidence that Palin ordered the employess to not testify or is that supposition against Palin because people chose to not testify?

 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

We know that it will be negative - the people doing the investigation stated as such before they heard testimony.

Now, is there evidence that Palin ordered the employess to not testify or is that supposition against Palin because people chose to not testify?


1.) The people who said it would be damaging said so after examining quite a bit of the evidence. Stop buying McCain's BS about the Republican dominated committee's unanimous decision to investigate Palin.

2.) Palin declared the subpoenas invalid and that is the primary reason cited by the employees as to why they won't testify. You do the math yourself on that one.
 

SAWYER

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She seems like a power hungry professional politician like the rest of them(McCain, Bama, Hillary and the list goes on and on).
 
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I wonder if this new information will be fully investigated at the risk of potentially delaying the Troopergate report? Maybe I'm just getting cynical...but the timing of this report just smacks of agreements made in back rooms...and it's doubtful that neither hell or high water will delay this report past Nov. 4 regardless of any new developments such as this.

Now it appears we have a quandry...conduct a complete, thorough, and fair investigation or do a political hatchet job in an effort to influence voters prior to Nov. 4. Hmmmm...is there any doubt which way this will go?
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
I wonder if this new information will be fully investigated at the risk of potentially delaying the Troopergate report? Maybe I'm just getting cynical...but the timing of this report just smacks of agreements made in back rooms...and it's doubtful that neither hell or high water will delay this report past Nov. 4 regardless of any new developments such as this.

Now it appears we have a quandry...conduct a complete, thorough, and fair investigation or do a political hatchet job in an effort to influence voters prior to Nov. 4. Hmmmm...is there any doubt which way this will go?

Do you have any evidence to show that the investigation will be compromised by the earlier date?
 

Red Dawn

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I can just picture her Hhsband Todd running around the country with a camera taking pictures of their political adversaries in compromising situations like he did with his ex BIL.:shocked:
 
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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
I wonder if this new information will be fully investigated at the risk of potentially delaying the Troopergate report? Maybe I'm just getting cynical...but the timing of this report just smacks of agreements made in back rooms...and it's doubtful that neither hell or high water will delay this report past Nov. 4 regardless of any new developments such as this.

Now it appears we have a quandry...conduct a complete, thorough, and fair investigation or do a political hatchet job in an effort to influence voters prior to Nov. 4. Hmmmm...is there any doubt which way this will go?

Do you have any evidence to show that the investigation will be compromised by the earlier date?

Do you have any evidence to show that the investigation will not be compromised by the earlier date?
 

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Originally posted by: Lemon law


When the troopergate report comes out in a week or two, its very hard for me to think it will be anything but very damning for Sarah Palin. For McCain, when it rains, it pours. More salt on open wounds.


He could have chosen Elizabeth Dole and made this The Geezer Ticket.;)
 

Lemon law

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The question now becomes, can the Alaska AG appeal that ruling to the Alaska supreme court and buy the needed time to keep the finding from being released until past Nov 4. Or alternately, another Palin tactic might be to side with orderly but a greatly slowed troopergate probe proceeding, again pushing any findings past November 4.

As for the subpoenaed Palin aides now basically forced to testify, they are now between a rock and a hard place, if they refuse to testify now, they may lose their jobs in January anyway. And still be facing contempt of court charges.

And the ultimate irony may be, Palin will not only lose her bid to becomes VP, she may well lose her job as Alaska Governor as well.

The Sharks are already circling, they want more than lipstick, what is a mere barracuda to do?