The Tea Party movement: deluded and inspired by billionaires

[BoberFett]

I pretty much agree. A great danger to a democracy is well-funded propaganda, and we're proving that now.

Yes, Obama has truly proven how dangerous propaganda is. When health care reform has nothing to do with health care or reform, you know something isn't right.

But then, I never trusted the guy. You're pretty gullible though, so it doesn't surprise me that you fall for the Democrat propaganda.

 

[Zebo]

Interestingly if you are making the point that at the beginning many tea baggers were motivated by concern over the power of corporate money they could have joined with many of the Democrats who feel the same way.

As the Tea Party stands now, their policies are the wet dream of every corporation and billionaire. If they truly came to power they would dramatically shift the balance completely away from the middle class towards the wealthy and the corporations.

I've made that point in the past techs. In so far as what they agree on, liberal dems and free market tea party should have aligned with a simple pledge something along the lines of: everyone who committed fraud over these last ten years will be investigated, prosecuted and jailed.

Unfortunately, monye came in on both sides to distract central issue and bonuses continue at record rates.

 

[Craig234]

I've made that point in the past techs. In so far as what they agree on, liberal dems and free market tea party should have aligned with a simple pledge something along the lines of: everyone who committed fraud over these last ten years will be investigated, prosecuted and jailed.

Unfortunately, monye came in on both sides to distract central issue and bonuses continue at record rates.

What evidence do you have of 'money coming in on the liberal side to derail enforcement against the criminals in the financial crash'? I don't mean corporatist Dems.

Liberal Dems are the one group most for the public on this. They aren't perfect, but they're the best on the issue.

 

[PeshakJang]

I pretty much agree. A great danger to a democracy is well-funded propaganda, and we're proving that now.

How come you disappeared from the last thread about this once you were confronted with the facts?

 

[Zebo]

What evidence do you have of 'money coming in on the liberal side to derail enforcement against the criminals in the financial crash'? I don't mean corporatist Dems.

Liberal Dems are the one group most for the public on this. They aren't perfect, but they're the best on the issue.

Start with the 32 million dollar loan that never has to be paid back to DNC from just one bank, BofA.

Shortly after Labor Day, as polls continued to sink, the Democratic National Committee (DNC) realized it needed a cash infusion for the upcoming midterm elections. Its chairman, former Virginia Governor Tim Kaine, turned to the Bank of America to secure a $15 million revolving credit line. Then, in the middle of this month, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) got another loan from BofA for an additional $17 million.

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http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/did-th...aign-loan-from-bank-of-america-pjm-exclusive/


Given that Bank of America is accused of serious due process violations related to foreclosures, and has admitted to 102,000 "robosigned" expostfacto fraudulent documents which is an admission of the commission of 102,000 counts of perjury, we certainly we have an appearance of bribery.

 

[Craig234]

Start with the 32 million dollar loan that never has to be paid back to DNC from just one bank, BofA.

And just as I suspected and suggested, you fail to differentiate between the 'liberal dems' you said, and the DNC/corporatist Dems. You lump them together. Wrong.

"The DNC" is not equivalent to "The liberal Dems".

Corporatist Dems have done all kinds of bad things, but you did not name them. You named the liberal Dems - you can use the progressive caucus for a rough list.

You should withdraw the statement, or provide evidence for *liberal* Dems.

You will find that the *liberal* Dems had the strongest agenda of any of the main groups for the public interest against Wall Street abuses. Check the evidence.

 

[Jhhnn]

Start with the 32 million dollar loan that never has to be paid back to DNC from just one bank, BofA.

Jump to conclusions much?

 

[lothar]

What evidence do you have of 'money coming in on the liberal side to derail enforcement against the criminals in the financial crash'? I don't mean corporatist Dems.

Liberal Dems are the one group most for the public on this. They aren't perfect, but they're the best on the issue.

Maxine Waters(a member of the "Congressional Progressive Caucus (CPC)") is under investigation by the House Ethics Committee.
If you don't know what she did, google it.

Did you also miss the thread posted last week on your hero Barney Frank?
I noticed you completely ignored that thread even though it was on the front page for days.

The only legitimate "progressives" that you've mentioned are Bernie Sanders and Dennis Kucinich.

 

[lothar]

And just as I suspected and suggested, you fail to differentiate between the 'liberal dems' you said, and the DNC/corporatist Dems. You lump them together. Wrong.

"The DNC" is not equivalent to "The liberal Dems".

Corporatist Dems have done all kinds of bad things, but you did not name them. You named the liberal Dems - you can use the progressive caucus for a rough list.

You should withdraw the statement, or provide evidence for *liberal* Dems.

You will find that the *liberal* Dems had the strongest agenda of any of the main groups for the public interest against Wall Street abuses. Check the evidence.

Howard Dean was chair of the DNC two years ago...If the DNC is not a "liberal" group, why would they appoint Howard Dean of all people as their chairman?

You must be confusing the DNC with the DLC...

 

[nyker96]

Astroturf doesn't really interest me. That's child's play. I'm just curious as to how Fox News slots in. I really doubt they'd be the second prong in an overarching conspiracy -- that would just take too much organization for the structure to be likely. But I can certainly see them being users of lower-tier psychopaths who are overconfident that their mistrust (liars are notoriously afraid that they're being lied to) will shield them from deception.
There does seem to be a very agile and highly adaptive opportunist behind Fox News, or at least some structure that does a damn good job of mimicking one.

The mentioning of autoturfing also reminds me of Fox news. It does something similar here, its commentators incite public rage and organizes demonstrations, then its news wing reports on those them as spontaneous uprising of the people. In a sense manufacturing news in a constant unending cycle.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-3-2009/master-rebators---the-crank-cycle

 

[techs]

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-3-2009/master-rebators---the-crank-cycle

lol.

 

[Jhhnn]

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-3-2009/master-rebators---the-crank-cycle

Indeed. Part of what's happened is that the Republican brand is, uhh, more than a little bit tarnished at the moment, so the purveyors of that ideology need to re-brand if their product is to sell. Which is the essence of the Tea Party- same whore, different dress... deeper delusions on the part of the customers...

It is, after all, the same pimps putting her out on the street...

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Got a vid for that too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE9BuLdHTts