I extended a hand of truce. You are a perfect example of our current government, if they offer truce, you attack.
Care to explain to me why they died now? Or are you going to obfuscate more?
I extended a hand of truce. You are a perfect example of our current government, if they offer truce, you attack.
Care to explain to me why they died now? Or are you going to obfuscate more?
Maybe you should stay in ATOT where the topics don't get as deep. Like you mentioned with the alternator shaped beef. Stay there, thats your mental capability it seems.
Born2bwire
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This thread is idiotic. It should be obvious to anyone that the OP has no intention of listening to any arguments for the war, and will attack anyone who has a different opinion than his.
Yeah, but you can't keep up in depth of conversation. ATOT is better for "one liner bash" posts, not in depth reasoning like P&N. So have you found that reason yet or just trolling?
Born2bwire
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palehorse
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They died fighting for something, or someone, that they believed in -- and that's all that needs to be said. I know this to be true because some of them died while fighting next to me.
Your continued use of their names as political rhetoric is meaningless, misguided, and offensive -- as is your "truce."
I plan to call you out on every piece of bullsh*t you ever post here, so you had better get used to it!
You start off this thread calling people who are in favor of the war "fascist bastards". It' is pretty obvious that you have no intention of debating anything with anyone. You started this thread to vent your anger, nothing more.
PC Surgeon.... Come on man... This is overboard. We have military members here. Agree/disagree. At least respect them.
Edit: PC Surgeon.... Come on man... This is overboard. We have military members here. Agree/disagree. Please respect them.
Edit: PC Surgeon.... Come on man... This is overboard. We have military members here. Agree/disagree. Please respect them.
You expect anything better from his ilk? I am sure Ron Paul would be proud of him.
What;'s funny is that he doesn't even realize that by running around creating Ron Paul threads, then doing this shit, only alienates him and his gold idolator god from the rest of the reasonable population.
He is his, and Ron Paul's, own worst enemy.
You may have fought next to them, you may very well be a brave soldier, but nevertheless, we went to war for nothing. Bravery is not lost, the value of each soldier is not degraded, the reason for their bravery was the love of America and they are commended for it, even you. But those men that lost their lives next to you, your friends and yourself could still be here today if it were not for lies. I know that its hard for you to think about, I know its not something you want to think about, but we must find a way out. Stop the bloodshed, stop the innocent loss of life, civilians or soldiers. I commend you for being brave, you are honorable and noble, staring in the face of death no matter the odds and having the steel heart that it requires to carry out those acts of war. You only did what you thought was best for this country, you are not to blame. Now that we know those were lies that took thousands of lives, its time to come home. Hate me and despise me if you like, but I have just as much care for you as each and every one of those that died. Not one above another and each in his own order. Come home.
I don't care what you think LK. Personally if you can't see the point I was trying to make, then I'm sorry. I can't make you see it. You think its about Ron Paul, and you allude to it in every post, but did it ever occur to you that maybe this is my feeling and not Ron Paul? Do you think that every person in America that is against this war and the deaths it caused is a Paul supporter? Blanket statements liek that one do not help dissolve the discussion, it only helps to muddy the waters so that the true discussion cannot occur.
ProfJohn
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Because the people who do the locking all agree with him.
Create a thread "The Surge works and Democrats who oppose it suck" and see how fast it get locks.
If you have a problem with the moderating PM Derek Wilson, do not discuss it in this thread or forum.
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ProfJohn
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When are people going to get over this whole ?war of lies? BS?
1. EVERYONE in the world thought that Saddam had WMD. Even people who were 100% against the war thought that Saddam had WMD.
2. Many, if not all, of the people who thought that Saddam had WMD and still opposed the war thought that Saddam was a problem, but they thought that Saddam could be ?contained.?
3. Even though Saddam did not have WMD there is tons of evidence that he planned to restart his WMD programs the second the pressure was off of him.
4. WMD or not Saddam was a major supporter of terrorism and had been for years. His payments to Palestinian suicide bombers evidence of this.
5. The war was about more than just WMD. I suggest you go read the congressional authorization that lists the reasons.
bamacre
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Yeah, but most knew that even if he had them that they weren't a threat to us, and that Saddam had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks, nor was he a big fan of AQ nor any other Islamic fundamentalists.
Saddam was a problem to his people, even somewhat to the region. But not to us. If he was such a problem for his neighbors, why didn't they do something about him?
Again, those not being a threat to us.
Major supporter of terrorism? Oh please. Yes, he was paying the families of Palestinian suicide bombers, but that doesn't make him a "major supporter of terrorism," and yet again, not a threat to us.
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Yeah, it was about more than WMD's. It was about resources, power, and money. Just like pretty much every other war throughout history.
Besides, ProfJohn, the last thing we needed was to throw 2 trillion dollars on top of our already fat debt. You yourself already posted a thread about the coming SS fiscal problems, and the medicare problem is five times worse according to David Walker. AND, on top of that, we invaded another Muslim country after we were attacked on 9/11, which just created more enemies, and makes us look more guilty in regards to meddling in ME affairs. The fact that Iraq not only has one of the largest sources of oil, but the best quality of oil on the planet doesn't help show our supposed good intentions either. I could go on. Military recruitment down.
Invading Iraq was the biggest blunder in US history for so many reasons, it is simply ridiculous.
And the blame is certainly not limited to Bush and Cheney, but also to both parties in Congress as well.
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