The Sunk-Cost Fallacy

DealMonkey

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Iraq and Vietnam have been compared endlessly almost since the first day OIF started ... some of those comparisons are in fact valid, some are not. But one of the more striking similarities is how the government began digging us deeper into the respective conflicts by bringing up the specter of our war dead and how we "owe it to our fallen soldiers" to continue the conflict, how they would "want us to continue the mission in their names" and finally how "the only way to respect our war dead is to stay the course."

It's a classic fallacy that many around here subscribe to and one that Bush himself has been using lately. This short op/ed piece explains it nicely.

The Sunk-Cost Fallacy
Bush falls victim to a bad new argument for the Iraq war.
By Barry Schwartz
Posted Friday, Sept. 9, 2005, at 3:24 AM PT

In recent speeches, President Bush has offered several reasons for staying the course in Iraq. One of them is the almost 2,000 Americans who have already died in the war. "We owe them something," the president said on Aug. 22. "We will finish the task that they gave their lives for."

Psychologists, decision scientists, and economists have a name for this type of argument: the "sunk-cost fallacy." It has gotten the United States into trouble once before. As casualties mounted in Vietnam in the 1960s, it became more and more difficult to withdraw, because war supporters insisted that withdrawal would cheapen the lives of those who had already sacrificed. We "owed" it to the dead and wounded to "stay the course." We could not let them "die in vain." What staying the course produced was perhaps 250,000 more dead and wounded.

Here are a few more trivial examples of the sunk-cost fallacy:

* You have good tickets to a basketball game an hour drive away. There's a blizzard raging outside, and the game is being televised. You can sit warm and safe at home by a roaring fire and watch it on TV, or you can bundle up, dig out your car, and go to the game. What do you do?

* You've ordered too much food at the restaurant and there you are, completely stuffed, with a pile of pasta sitting on your plate. Do you clean your plate or not?

In each of these cases, the money is gone. Do you "waste" it, or do you go to the game, and finish your pasta? It is claimed by economists and psychologists that the right way to approach questions like these is only by looking to the future. Since the money is spent no matter what you do, the only real question you should be asking is what will give you more satisfaction?watching the game by a roaring fire or sliding to it in a blizzard; leaving the restaurant feeling content or leaving it feeling stuffed. The "sunk costs" are sunk whatever your decision; only the future matters. The fallacy in thinking about sunk costs is precisely that people feel compelled to get their "money's worth," even if it makes them suffer.

The sunk-cost fallacy appears in contexts less mundane than wasted food or basketball tickets. You've invested several million dollars to develop a new product only to be scooped by your competitor, whose version is cheaper and better than yours will be. Do you go on with the development nonetheless? You are two-thirds through a research project when a report of an almost identical project appears in the relevant journal. Do you finish your study or abandon it?

And the sunk-cost fallacy appears in the most consequential of contexts, where injury and death, and not just money or effort, are at stake. Which brings us back to Iraq. How do we honor the sacrifices of those who have died or suffered serious injury in an American conflict? The best way to show how much we respect and value their lives is by refraining from sacrificing other lives in their name unless future prospects fully justify putting more people in harm's way. The lives of those who died are a sunk cost?one that is much higher than any of our treasure. But their lives can not be reclaimed. Their injuries can not be undone. If our assessment of a military situation is that we are unlikely to be successful, or that the likely price of success in lost lives is too high, then we must change course. What we owe those who have already suffered is enough reverence for life that we won't send others to suffer after them in order to justify their own suffering.

To acknowledge sunk costs and change course need not be an admission of foolishness or even failure. One can think through a problem in the right way, and formulate a wise course of action, only to discover that it doesn't work out. The world is an uncertain place, and good decisions do not guarantee good results (just as bad decisions don't guarantee bad results). But a reason people are seduced by the sunk-cost fallacy is that investments of time, money, or lives on ventures that do not work out feel like failures. They feel like a waste. And people seem willing to waste even more (time, money, or lives) to justify what has already been spent and avoid that sick feeling of failure.

I am not suggesting here that we should "declare victory and leave" Iraq. I am not suggesting that the only justification currently being offered for continued involvement in Iraq is the "sunk cost" in American lives. I am not suggesting that obligations from the past should never enter into one's consideration about the future.

My suggestion here is modest: You may justify the Iraq occupation in many ways?perhaps you think it will prevent further terror, democratize the Middle East, or restrain Iran?but it is unacceptable to justify it on the grounds that we "owe" it to those who have already fallen. That is a justification that no one should be allowed to get away with. But it is a justification that is coming increasingly to the fore, usually implicitly but sometimes explicitly, as other arguments about staying the course in Iraq become less and less compelling. Whatever the differences may be between Iraq in 2005 and Vietnam in 1968, if we allow policy makers to use our "sunk costs"?our dead soldiers?to justify further conflict, we will have turned Iraq into another Vietnam. And if we do, we will be shamed by Iraq just as we were shamed by Vietnam.

Barry Schwartz is a professor of psychology at Swarthmore College and the author of The Paradox of Choice: Why More Is Less.
 

Zebo

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Yeah pretty childish. In all fairness to Bush though, there's still a lot of tax payers mulla he can siphon of to his freinds by staying the course.
 

conehead433

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Yeah pretty childish. In all fairness to Bush though, there's still a lot of tax payers mulla he can siphon of to his freinds by staying the course.

You hit the nail on the head. Have a cookie.:cookie:

 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
We have to get Iraq back on its feet so we can sell them arms.
Prosthetic arms, or? Quite a few Iraqis are missing legs too, don't forget.
 

Kalbi

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What's wrong with killing terrorists in Iraq? As long as they (the terrorists) keep going there and not here, i'm cool with it. Sht if it were up to me I'd do a full invasion of all middle east country, secure the oil fields (make gasoline $0.25 per gallon PREMIUM), and send them to Allah.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Kalbi
What's wrong with killing terrorists in Iraq? As long as they (the terrorists) keep going there and not here, i'm cool with it. Sht if it were up to me I'd do a full invasion of all middle east country, secure the oil fields (make gasoline $0.25 per gallon PREMIUM), and send them to Allah.
:confused:

I sincerely hope that it's just that my sarcasm meter is broken.
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: Kalbi
What's wrong with killing terrorists in Iraq? As long as they (the terrorists) keep going there and not here, i'm cool with it. Sht if it were up to me I'd do a full invasion of all middle east country, secure the oil fields (make gasoline $0.25 per gallon PREMIUM), and send them to Allah.

Hey now, this thread is about the sunk-cost fallacy, we'll get to all the fallacies in your post some other time.
 

MadRat

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
We have to get Iraq back on its feet so we can sell them arms.
Prosthetic arms, or? Quite a few Iraqis are missing legs too, don't forget.

Such grim commentary. I hope you aren't normally so expressive of such melancholy.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: MadRat
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
We have to get Iraq back on its feet so we can sell them arms.
Prosthetic arms, or? Quite a few Iraqis are missing legs too, don't forget.

Such grim commentary. I hope you aren't normally so expressive of such melancholy.
War is a grim business. I hope you aren't normally posessed of such obliviousness to reality.
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: conjur
It's that moving rationale: WMDs; removing a brutal dictator; liberating Iraqis; spreading democracy; and now "we owe it to our fallen soldiers".

Every one of them has been complete and utter BS.


And, just so happens, Howard Zinn just said essentially the same thing:
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Howard_Zi...lout_says_Bush_seeks_profit__0909.html

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The Wolf and the Lamb


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?Well, then,? said the Wolf, ?why did you call me bad names this time last year??

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?I don?t care,? snarled the Wolf; ?if it was not you it was your father;? and with that he rushed upon the poor little Lamb and? WARRA WARRA WARRA WARRA WARRA?
ate her all up. But before she died she gasped out? ?ANY EXCUSE WILL SERVE A TYRANT.?