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The Stunning Fact That Connects Every Single Toyota Case

SandEagle

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maybe they just dont have enough force left in those legs to stop it, might break a hip
and the old drivers are more reserved about switching to neutral maybe because of cars back in the day?
 
I just looked at a breakdown of the ages, don't know where in the hell the author is getting those numbers...

I do feel many of the sudden acceleration cases are driver error, but I also see a statistical anomaly in reported cases of unattended acceleration VS marketshare in Toyotas case, prior to the media glomming onto the issue.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124276771

http://www.theatlantic.com/business...-the-defects-in-toyotas-cars/37448/?rss=37448

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tlc86dwACUOWtmOEdzLPifA&gid=0

Theres also a statistical anomaly in the number of immigrants and unintended acceleration claims...
 
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It really doesn't matter. The cat is out of the bag, and "unintended acceleration" will never ever get "fixed". People have caught on and this will be the excuse for every crash and speeding ticket from now on until the end of time.
 
It really doesn't matter. The cat is out of the bag, and "unintended acceleration" will never ever get "fixed". People have caught on and this will be the excuse for every crash and speeding ticket from now on until the end of time.

That's the most compelling argument I've ever heard for buying a Toyota.
 
It's funny, I drove a big lumbering SUV once with boots on and found myself pressing on the brakes and the gas pedal at the same time in a parking lot. As I pressed down firmly on the brake pedal I also was pressing down on the gas because the fucking boots were so clunky and the pedals were so close together. It was really disconcerting until I realized what I was doing. And for the record, I was in my 30s at the time. I just don't drive with boots on anymore.
 
If you are buying any new car, it is always advisable to check wether you are comfortable with the interior design. This includes dash layout, instrumentation, switch locations, and pedal placement. If you have big feet or wear work boots, you should look for a vehicle with wider pedal spacing. Same as with being able to achieve the best seat distance & tilt from the steering wheel, while still being able to properly work the pedals and see over the wheel rim.
 
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/03/12/runaway-toyotas-what-about-driver-error/

I would guess the vast majority of problems with the Toyota cases are either driver error or outright fraud.

The good news for the rest of us is Toyota resale value will take a hit, at least in the short term, so if you are looking for a used car now is the time to buy.

-KeithP

I'm hoping people stop buying Toyotas so I don't have to see every single car here in Boston a Corolla, Camry, or Lexus ES.

PS- I have one recall on my VIN number it turns out - which involves removing the floor mat, shaving the Denso pedal, and Brake over-ride ECU. I don't want to do any of those, so no recall BS for me.
 
I just looked at a breakdown of the ages, don't know where in the hell the author is getting those numbers...

I do feel many of the sudden acceleration cases are driver error, but I also see a statistical anomaly in reported cases of unattended acceleration VS marketshare in Toyotas case, prior to the media glomming onto the issue.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124276771

http://www.theatlantic.com/business...-the-defects-in-toyotas-cars/37448/?rss=37448

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tlc86dwACUOWtmOEdzLPifA&gid=0

Theres also a statistical anomaly in the number of immigrants and unintended acceleration claims...

The Washington Examiner is a peice of trash paper, if you can even call it that. Think Fox news in paper form.

The writers for it are very biased and only give enough data to make there story look good. But it seems you already know that. 😉
 
Your observations more aptly implies that due to their age the people who died did not know how to handle the situation their Toyota put them in.
 
The sudden or unintended acceleration issue has always existed for older people. This is nothing new.

Back when Audi was getting roto-rootered by the networks for the same issue, completely unfounded, it was "discovered" that lots of older people back then who drove other brands also had their cars mysteriously accelerate while they were "applying the brake"....and of course, they were on the gas the entire time.

This Toyota issue has a bit more credibility than this same issue in the past.
 
The sudden or unintended acceleration issue has always existed for older people. This is nothing new.

Back when Audi was getting roto-rootered by the networks for the same issue, completely unfounded, it was "discovered" that lots of older people back then who drove other brands also had their cars mysteriously accelerate while they were "applying the brake"....and of course, they were on the gas the entire time.

This Toyota issue has a bit more credibility than this same issue in the past.

if i recall, i read that the audi issue was , most of the people were old and a lot of them were coming out of buicks and caddilacs and it was their first european car as well.

supposedly a lot of the people who reported UA with the audis were either old, or very short or something like that.


Now I am not surprised that most of the people who report UA in toyotas are old people and that toyotas have a disproportionate number of old people reporting UA compared to other makes.

Why?

because toyota has probably the highest mean age of driver and they have a disproportionate number of buyers who are old. Toyota's also have tons of buyers who outright barely care about driving and just drive cars as an appliance, so they in my opinion probably have the least driving ability out of the entire driving population.

If you look at the lists of cars with the highest reported UA / sales percentage the mercury grand marquis and lincoln town car are on there. in fact the lincoln towncar is highest.
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tag/unintended-acceleration-rankings/

how many young people even drive a towncar or a grandmarquis? Or for that matter a lexus ES? have you ever seen anyone under 50 buy an ES or an SC 430 for that matter. In fact I would be concerned if scion TCs and lexus ISes were suddenly crashing into walls , but if it is the cars on the list, then i think writiing it off as "people who cant drive / old" seems somewhat reasonable.

Toyota UA complaints are probably a combination of factors. probably the combination of crappy floor mats + their buyers being the least concerned about cars and driving in general, + having a very old customer base.

So it snot illogical to see . I mean if you took lincoln town car and crown vic and grand marquis owners only as evidence that ford's were death traps due to UA, you'd come tot the same conclusion OR realize that only old people drive those (and cops in the crown vic's case)
 
Yep the stats aren't very 'stunning' at all
If you are to compare to the dangers of day to day driving over UA its almost imeasurable.

Its been proven many times statistically, older drivers aren't a problem regardless of what they drive. Of course, as a visible minority there is lots of anecdotal evidence to the contrary and of course there gets to the point where they need to hang it up.
However drunks maim kill and injure people exponentially more than older drivers
 
Toyota drivers in general are the problem. They always drive like they are afraid of their own shadow anyways, so when they encounter something unusual, they have no clue how to react.
 
It's funny, I drove a big lumbering SUV once with boots on and found myself pressing on the brakes and the gas pedal at the same time in a parking lot. As I pressed down firmly on the brake pedal I also was pressing down on the gas because the fucking boots were so clunky and the pedals were so close together. It was really disconcerting until I realized what I was doing. And for the record, I was in my 30s at the time. I just don't drive with boots on anymore.

Did you have to disinfect yourself after being in an SUV?
 
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