The Stories CNN Didn't Run About Iraq...

[Pliablemoose]

NY Times An interesting article... Here's a cut & paste of the first 2 paragraphs:

Over the last dozen years I made 13 trips to Baghdad to lobby the government to keep CNN's Baghdad bureau open and to arrange interviews with Iraqi leaders. Each time I visited, I became more distressed by what I saw and heard ? awful things that could not be reported because doing so would have jeopardized the lives of Iraqis, particularly those on our Baghdad staff.
For example, in the mid-1990's one of our Iraqi cameramen was abducted. For weeks he was beaten and subjected to electroshock torture in the basement of a secret police headquarters because he refused to confirm the government's ludicrous suspicion that I was the Central Intelligence Agency's Iraq station chief. CNN had been in Baghdad long enough to know that telling the world about the torture of one of its employees would almost certainly have gotten him killed and put his family and co-workers at grave risk.

 

[rudder]

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I guess the Iraqi government was convinced that CNN had a number of CIA people on staff.

 

[conjur]

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[rudder]

Originally posted by: conjur
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There is no repost. There isn't any repost within 100 thread of this one. This is ludicrous. You are lying!

 

[conjur]

heh...I kept waiting for someone to come up behind that guy and shout out "Baba Booey!"

Someone did that to Dan Rather (he's often a target of Howard Stern's viewers) a couple weeks ago.

 

[rudder]

LOL, I still remember during the OJ chase someone called Dan Rather on the phone and he was talking live. He had Dan Rather going for a while then towards the end of the call he yelled bababooey.

 

[cmdavid]

that's crazy.. hopefully more stories like it will come out..

 

[foofoo]

hopefully more stories like it will come out..

that's a funny coincidence, that's just like the title of my post on this...

many more stories like this will be coming out i think

 

[ndee]

what is propaganda, what not? Hard to say.

 

[frugal1]

What has amazed me is how many media outlets would treat the words coming from Iraqi Gov't officials with MORE respect than the words coming from the US or Great Britain. (British ship banned the BBC for this reason!)

And the crazy reporter that got fired for doing an interview with Iraqi TV. What, does he think that they have a free press?!?

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: ndee
what is propaganda, what not? Hard to say.

What can be proven as fact is not propoganda. Saddams record against the press is well documented troll.

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: frugal1
What has amazed me is how many media outlets would treat the words coming from Iraqi Gov't officials with MORE respect than the words coming from the US or Great Britain. (British ship banned the BBC for this reason!)

And the crazy reporter that got fired for doing an interview with Iraqi TV. What, does he think that they have a free press?!?

Really, they should listen to the free French press, no wait, they control the media too....

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: rudder
[L=More Stuff]I guess the Iraqi government was convinced that CNN had a number of CIA people on staff.

You think they didn't?

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: rudder
[L=More Stuff]I guess the Iraqi government was convinced that CNN had a number of CIA people on staff.

You think they didn't?

Do you know and can you prove that they did?

Take your tin-foil hat off once in awhile. It's cutting of the blood circulation.

 

[Phuz]

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: ndee
what is propaganda, what not? Hard to say.

What can be proven as fact is not propoganda. Saddams record against the press is well documented troll.

And you're naive enough to believe that an Iraqi camera man would jeapordize his life and endure torture... for an American. Right.

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: ndee
what is propaganda, what not? Hard to say.

What can be proven as fact is not propoganda. Saddams record against the press is well documented troll.

Propaganda doesn't have to be false. Look it up.

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: Phuz

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: ndee
what is propaganda, what not? Hard to say.

What can be proven as fact is not propoganda. Saddams record against the press is well documented troll.

And you're naive enough to believe that an Iraqi camera man would jeapordize his life and endure torture... for an American. Right.

I still fail to see any proof.

If the Iraqi had falsely confessed that the CNN reporter was working for the CIA then that Iraqi like thousands of others would have just disapeared afterwards.


BTW
Do you remember the lawyer that risked his life for the American pow?

 

[WildMonkeyLover]

Big name media like CNN and Fox News are just a cheerleading squad for the right-winged billionaires of America.

Truth

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: rudder
[L=More Stuff]I guess the Iraqi government was convinced that CNN had a number of CIA people on staff.

You think they didn't?

Do you know and can you prove that they did?

Proof? Let me call up my good friend George...

Take your tin-foil hat off once in awhile. It's cutting of the blood circulation.

Who pissed in your cornflakes this morning?

I guess I could say something about pulling your head out of Bush's ass, but I don't think you'd hear me.

 

[etech]

tweakmm

You implied that CNN has CIA agents working for them.

That is your allegation which is seemingly based on nothing more than your imagination. Now you can either back it up with some proof or even a reasonable explanation as to why you think that or you can just admit that you don't have a clue as to whether it is true or not and you like to spread misinformation based on nothing.

Your choice.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: etech
tweakmm
You implied that CNN has CIA agents working for them.

That is your allegation which is seemingly based on nothing more than your imagination. Now you can either back it up with some proof or even a reasonable explanation as to why you think that or you can just admit that you don't have a clue as to whether it is true or not and you like to spread misinformation based on nothing.
Your choice.

Do I have proof of CIA agents working for CNN? Of course not, I give the CIA more credit than that. As I'm sure you have noticed my distrust of the government, it wouldn't surprise me if the CIA had spooks in civilian positions. So yes, my comment was pulled completely of of my tin encrusted head.

But if it is known fact that the CIA ran drugs, has toppled governments, attempted to topple others and performed countless assassinations, how can the idea of the CIA having operatives in CNN be so hard to believe?

 

[KF]

>Who pissed in your cornflakes this morning?
>I guess I could say something about pulling your head out of Bush's ass, but I don't think you'd hear me.

So why haven't the mods enforced the rule against personal insults which they are so adamant about?

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: etech
tweakmm
You implied that CNN has CIA agents working for them.

That is your allegation which is seemingly based on nothing more than your imagination. Now you can either back it up with some proof or even a reasonable explanation as to why you think that or you can just admit that you don't have a clue as to whether it is true or not and you like to spread misinformation based on nothing.
Your choice.

Do I have proof of CIA agents working for CNN? Of course not, I give the CIA more credit than that. As I'm sure you have noticed my distrust of the government, it wouldn't surprise me if the CIA had spooks in civilian positions. So yes, my comment was pulled completely of of my tin encrusted head.

But if it is known fact that the CIA ran drugs, has toppled governments, attempted to topple others and performed countless assassinations, how can the idea of the CIA having operatives in CNN be so hard to believe?

Without proof, it is merely baseless speculation on your part. Moonbeam starts to quiver when I show why speculation and making assumptions based on nothing more than your personal biases is wrong so I won't show you the fallacy of your argument with an example. Suffice it to say that it is just as slippery a slope for the nation to become completely cynical about the government as it is blindly believe in it.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: etech
Without proof, it is merely baseless speculation on your part.

I never tried to say it wasn't baseless speculation. I even said it was.

Suffice it to say that it is just as slippery a slope for the nation to become completely cynical about the government as it is blindly believe in it.

I'm not sure if I agree with you here, I think there is a much greater danger in not being panoid enough rather than being too paranoid.

Do you believe in God etech?

 

[drewshin]

does anyone have proof that cnn did NOT have CIA agents working for them?

anyone that's posting here has no solid evidence one way or the other, so why get your panties in a bunch?
but based on the cia's past history, they most likely would have someone working for them or for some other press outlet...i'd be disappointed if we had NO intelligence at all that existed inside Iraq.