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ReiAyanami
Diamond Member
11% returns under Democratic administrations vs 2% under Republicans, so yes you're right this once!!
0marTheZealot
Golden Member
Neither candidates really have a real plan for the economy. It is mostly a system of uncontrollable variables that interact in hundreds or thousands of levels.
If you've read any of my previous posts, I don't usually mention one candidate or another. Both of them are different sides of the same coin.
If you've read any of my previous posts, I don't usually mention one candidate or another. Both of them are different sides of the same coin.
dmcowen674
No Lifer
Yeah Yeah, we've heard this a gazillion times out of the Neocons.
It's been a cycle alright, the SPIN cycle.
0marTheZealot
Golden Member
This cycle threatens to turn into a spiral unless something is to be done about the collapse of the dollar and deficit spending.
BTW, this isn't a NEOCON or LIBERAL caused problem, it's an American problem, caused by us all.
BTW, this isn't a NEOCON or LIBERAL caused problem, it's an American problem, caused by us all.
ReiAyanami
Diamond Member
Go take sophmore econ. Theres this thing called a business cycle...[/quote]
actually econ is my best subject. those statistics are over 19 administrations. or are you implying republican presidents cause recessions?
dmcowen674
No Lifer
Or maybe that republicans inherit them after democrats have been in power.
It is a useless stat.[/quote]
Neocon Nation Math 2 > 11
No Child Left Behind Alright.
EXman
Lifer
Neocon Nation Math 2 > 11
No Child Left Behind Alright.[/quote]
Dave's Math...
Liberal = Good.
People just like himself = good
Anyone that is not like him = Neocon :roll:
You need to start a new career as a label maker in the old Soviet Union They make a ton of label makers but they all print "Neocon" and "Neocon" only. Get a new buzzword already it is getting tired.
This is the freaking Saudi's err OPEC trying to drive up the price of crude to influence the election. Commodity Terrorism? Hmm I guess we better steal some more oil from Iraq! :disgust::roll:
Clinton would have just opened up the strategic oil reserves for purely political reasons.
It's OK Dave it will be over soon! 😀 😉 as long as the damn lawyers can shut their pieholes!
XZeroII
Lifer
actually econ is my best subject. those statistics are over 19 administrations. or are you implying republican presidents cause recessions?[/quote]
Either you are lying, or you are very bad at your best subject. If you do know economics like you say, then you would know that any policy taken by a president will not take effect for a year at the earliest. In most cases it takes a couple years before we see the effect. Thus, your statistics mean nothing. It's been said hundreds of times, now. If you don't get it yet, I pity you. The economy is not dictated 100% by the gov't, and you can't blame a president for a bad economy, or credit a president for a good econoomy (in general). If you want someone to blame about the deficit, look at the ones who actually write the checks (congress).
It's like talking to a wall in here sometimes.
IHateMyJob2004
Lifer
DING DING DING
No doubt you are voting Kerry. Seems like you actually understand what is going on around you.
Luckily the oil strke in norway ended today (or yesterday night?) so crude prices should drop a bit.
By mortgage bubble, I'm assuming you mena housing bubble. And it's not going to pop. Housing prices seem to be falt this year though. Unless the local sub base closes, there will be no pop here in south eastern CT. The rest of the state seems to be stable. Don't forget that baby boomers are retiring and alot of prime areas will be in high demand. high demand, limited supply implies no popping sound.
IHateMyJob2004
Lifer
One of the major reasons to not vote for Bush.
With Bush, there is high risk. Especialyl with his idealolgy of staying the course with everything.
With Kerry, things might not get much better, but atleast tehy won't get worse.
Choose the lesser of two evils.
IHateMyJob2004
Lifer
No it won't investors are running the markets finally. Not traders. There will be no movement, Valuation is starting to take grip as it should.
IHateMyJob2004
Lifer
Dave's Math...
Liberal = Good.
People just like himself = good
Anyone that is not like him = Neocon :roll:
You need to start a new career as a label maker in the old Soviet Union They make a ton of label makers but they all print "Neocon" and "Neocon" only. Get a new buzzword already it is getting tired.
This is the freaking Saudi's err OPEC trying to drive up the price of crude to influence the election. Commodity Terrorism? Hmm I guess we better steal some more oil from Iraq! :disgust::roll:
Clinton would have just opened up the strategic oil reserves for purely political reasons.
It's OK Dave it will be over soon! 😀 😉 as long as the damn lawyers can shut their pieholes![/quote]
AHEM! Also note that most articles admit that hte sample sets are to small to draw a conclusion!!!! Some articles are actualy honest in this regard.
Now shut up.
bunnyfubbles
Lifer
ONO THE SKY IS FALLING
dmcowen674
No Lifer
I'm not a total Liberal Freak just as I am far from a Neocon.
I'm glad you admitted that Clinton would open the SR for Political reasons, a hell of a lot more than Bush/Cheney because they wouldn't dare mess with their Oil Friends making extra profits at the expense of the Country.
You guys should be clamoring for Kerry to win so you won't have to hear me complain about the lack of action by the Neocons for the behalf of the Country.
Looking at the last 26 days, the trend in the market is decidely DOWN. About 400+ points down for the month. A down October in an election year is bad news for the incumbent and good news for the challenger.
On the other hand, blue chips are perking up today even though consumer confidence has waned considerably.
Watch the stock market. If it keeps falling, I think Bush is in serious trouble.
-Robert
On the other hand, blue chips are perking up today even though consumer confidence has waned considerably.
Watch the stock market. If it keeps falling, I think Bush is in serious trouble.
-Robert
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