The state of this forum

[Czar]

It is just awful looking at this, this forum used to be a place where people tried to have a civil discussion about politics, or at least thats how it started like. Now people dont even bother trying.
Today I'v seen more personal attacks than I have seen since this forum was started combined. I know I'm probably going to get alot of if you cant take the heat and so on, and thats what I will do if things dont change. I just dont see a point even for Anandtech to host this forum if it continues to be like it has been today.

And mods, if you read this, please reinstate rule nr3.

 

[phillyTIM]

oh chill out man...it's only 1 out of 18 different parts of the forum; politics and news are hot topics par for the course...go visit the other techie forums on anandtech if you can't take the heat

 

[Orsorum]

It has been like this for quite a while, and blame cannot be placed on one ideological side. Unfortunately active moderation seems to be performed only at our request, and only for specific incidences.

 

[LunarRay]

If a post flames another and no body responds to it soon the flame thrower will extinguish itself.

It seems simple enough to me. If two flame throwers are ignited then ignoring those posts or locking the thread might be a reasonable approach.

This, however, requires willpower and self control from the members and manpower from the MOD folks. I don't know how many MOD folks there are available to monitor this nor if it is even necessary given we are able to just pass by the opportunity to respond in kind.

 

[Bulk Beef]

I :heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart: you guys.

Happy now, Czar?

 

[Czar]

LunarRay,
exactly, flames and personal attacks should be ignored even though the post has some merrit to it

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: Czar
LunarRay,
exactly, flames and personal attacks should be ignored even though the post has some merrit to it

This is how I handle it. Well.. I never 'flame' back but may respond with some humor or logical reasoning, if I can. But, if it is to end then, I suppose, to ignor completely is the answer...

 

[JellyBaby]

Many of us feel as you do Czar, from time to time. Take a break. Skip threads that detioriate into flamewars. Kindly remind folks to be civil.

I've witnessed one member who actually left for a while for reasons similar to your complaint, only to return and become exactly that which he fled from: a swearing, argumentative bastion of negativity. Sadly, I tend to skip over most of this fellas posts now whereas 2 years ago I took time to read every one.

Your reaction to the hostility here is a reflection of your state of being. The person above became the hostility. Instead you can try to contain it...or if you've eaten your Wheates, absorb it.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: sward666
I :heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart: you guys.

Happy now, Czar?

No :wine: for you, I'm afraid where it might lead!

 

[sandorski]

2 threads(1 by myself and 1 by MickyD or Etech(don't recall who)) was posted in the Forum Issues forum, but so far nothing appears to have been done.

I too don't think this is caused by 1 ideological side, but there certainly are some individuals here that need a good back hander one(hehe, something my immigrant dad used to say ) from a mod or more.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Czar
It is just awful looking at this, this forum used to be a place where people tried to have a civil discussion about politics, or at least thats how it started like. Now people dont even bother trying.
Today I'v seen more personal attacks than I have seen since this forum was started combined. I know I'm probably going to get alot of if you cant take the heat and so on, and thats what I will do if things dont change. I just dont see a point even for Anandtech to host this forum if it continues to be like it has been today.

And mods, if you read this, please reinstate rule nr3.

I've personallly taken a lot of the personal attacks, if it was any other Forum it would be considered a No No, bu this is Politics & News and we all know how personal attacks ARE a part of Politics, it is technilcally Free speech in the Politics arena.

Think of it as a show, a show of the arrogance and how low many people will go since they have nothing to back themselves up. If they want to show the world how pathetic they are, let em. It's the beauty part of a Free Society

 

[Tab]

Most topics do generate into personal attacks. Look at BOBDN's bush bitchs

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: Tabb
Most topics do generate into personal attacks. Look at BOBDN's bush bitchs

add PhillyTim to the list of official Bush bashers.

Czar, honestly I don't remember this forum ever being civil, it was created because two Iraqi threads in OT wasn't cutting it at the time. They did advise everyone to show respect and follow the rules, but it seems like they give much more latitude here, thankfully. We are all grown up and can take a little abuse, and we wouldn't be here if we couldn't

Sometimes I just like to come in here and vent, that's when somebody like Freegeeks comes in handy, yeah, I know he's going to piss me off, but at least he will engage and hand it back just as good as he gets. I'm not going to change his mind and vice versa, but I understand his position now whereas before I could only assume. Then there's Moonbeam waxing philosophical, he laid down a gem the other night but forget having a rational discussion with him about anything. I consider him our resident "special needs" child .

For those of us that also trade here you see the difference between this forum and FS/FT. I deal with people I argue with here and it never comes up, it's always kept separate. I bump and get bumps from other members who I am diametrically opposed to on almost every issue, so I don't see the climate in here overstepping into the other forums, at least the one I care about and use the most. If we can still do business after the things that are said and done here, this politics forum works perfectly.

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

"Why can't we all just along?"

 

[phillyTIM]

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: Tabb
Most topics do generate into personal attacks. Look at BOBDN's bush bitchs

add PhillyTim to the list of official Bush bashers.

And don't forget to add Alistar7 to the bush bitches! Ahh there he is, already spouting off his mouth! Right on time.

 

[Trezza]

Originally posted by: phillyTIM

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: Tabb
Most topics do generate into personal attacks. Look at BOBDN's bush bitchs

add PhillyTim to the list of official Bush bashers.

And don't forget to add Alistar7 to the bush bitches! Ahh there he is, already spouting off his mouth! Right on time.

U guys really don't know how to talk to people...this is a topic about not flaming / arguing about stupid stuff and what do we get 3 freaking posts about somebody being a bush this and a bush that. Everybody knows or thinks they know where the main posters of this forum stands.

GET OVER IT. YOU EITHER AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH BUSH. ITS NOT WORTH AN ULCER.

ahh, that was relaxing. Debate the issue and not your opponent. This is what TRUE politics is about, debating until you convince your opponent that you are correct.

 

[McGyver]

that's why we all love it!

 

[Insane3D]

Yeah...it's coming from both sides now and it seems like the forum is just plain unmoderated now. I mean a certain poster around here has taken to calling people "c0cksucker" who disagree.

If you look at the forums home page, and read the description of the P&A forums, it specifially states no personal attacks...but unless these particular incidents are pointed out to the mods..they don't seem to bother.

*shrug*

 

[Czar]

Czar, honestly I don't remember this forum ever being civil, it was created because two Iraqi threads in OT wasn't cutting it at the time. They did advise everyone to show respect and follow the rules, but it seems like they give much more latitude here, thankfully. We are all grown up and can take a little abuse, and we wouldn't be here if we couldn't

I would hardly call the increased flaming and name calling growing up, its more like going back to kindergarden, the forum just keeps going lower and lower. And people, if you need to went, go to fark.com and take a part in their flame fests, thats just a standard there.

 

[Czar]

how about this, when a thread turns ugly because people are acting like children then the one who started the thread puts "FW:" in front of the thread title. This would draw in those people who like it and the people who dont can just ignore it.
Would be best if a mod could do it though.

 

[phillyTIM]

The used to have a sticky post with rules of the forum on top of everything in this section, but it's been gone for a few weeks now.

How can you justly moderate a politics forum; whatever one of the mods does, will be construed as slanted to his/her political opinion and then they'll be complaining the operators are biased and leftist (or rightist, if the case may seem).

Just smile and nod and move on if you don't like how something is going, or put your two cents in about the subject and ignore the drama.

So sensitive you guys are, people might think you're all gay or somethin. They'll be calling the Queer Eye for the Straight Guys into prune & clip and give you guys some frigggin' balls for cryin' out loud!

 

[Czar]

philly,
have you never had an intelegent discussion with someone?

 

[phillyTIM]

sure i have czar, when the other has some actual intellectual meat to discuss.

and when the other person doesn't drown out things that he doesn't want to hear.

 

[Czar]

too bad we hardly ever get to that part because of all the childish flaming going on

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Originally posted by: Czar
philly,
have you never had an intelegent discussion with someone?

Nice, Czar