The silver lining thread for the losers...

[ivwshane]

It hasn't been called yet but it's pretty much a forgone conclusion that trump will be our next president.

That being said, dems tend to be optimists (even to their detriment), so in that spirit lets try to think of all the positive things that will come about due to Republicans winning the presidency, keeping the house and the senate, controlling a majority of local state governments and of course, filling the supreme court with conservative justices.

The good news is now that trump is president, it should mean we won't have to deal with a trump TV network (lol, watch me be proven wrong).

Other good news is that if the Republicans don't maintain our current level of Job growth then them and their policies will be solely responsible for it.

Republicans can now fix health care and will be solely responsible for not fixing it.

Immigration reform will now have to be addressed and fixed, if not, Republicans will be the one responsible.

There will be an increase in manufacturing jobs and if there isn't then it will be because of Republican policies.

I can go on and on but I'll let others join in on the fun.

 

[Zorba]

Don't worry, inside the bubble everything will still be the Dems fault.

 

[ivwshane]

Don't worry, inside the bubble everything will still be the Dems fault.

I certainly look forward to comparing the stats of Obama and the dems vs trump and the Republicans and watching the idiots try to spin it.

 

[zerocool84]

His whole schtick was that he was going to blog up our system, that means Dems and Repub, I'm sure that won't happen to Repubs though obviously since they control everything now.

 

[ivwshane]

His whole schtick was that he was going to blog up our system, that means Dems and Repub, I'm sure that won't happen to Repubs though obviously since they control everything now.

I just think it's funny how, many trump supporters voted for trump to drain the swamp, who just gave one party,who has been in control of government (except for the presidency), for the last six years.

I'm curious to see what this swamp draining will end up looking like.

 

[ivwshane]

Oh I forgot to mention. We can finally stop hearing about the huge debt that's going to destroy the US because the Republicans are finally going to reduce the debt!

So many good things are going to happen now!

 

[ivwshane]

Oh I forgot to mention. We can finally stop hearing about the huge debt that's going to destroy the US because the Republicans are finally going to reduce the debt!

So many good things are going to happen now!

No one else had a silver lining? Its all doom and gloom?

 

[Darwin333]

No one else had a silver lining? Its all doom and gloom?

It will be entertaining if nothing else and the election cycle is finally fucking over. Fuck this shit lasts way too long in the US.

 

[ivwshane]

It will be entertaining if nothing else and the election cycle is finally fucking over. Fuck this shit lasts way too long in the US.

Lol that is definitely a silver lining! This seemed waaay too freaken long!

 

[glenn1]

No one else had a silver lining? Its all doom and gloom?

I think the silver lining is that Trump may turn out better for Democratic priorities than Clinton. His past political utterances (prior to running) seemed like fairly typical Manhattan rich person opinions and values. Sure he's more populist than Hillary but populism isn't completely antimatter to Democratic values, it's the Bill Clinton "New Democrats" that bought the party 100% onto the corporatist side.

 

[Balt]

I can think of one good one. A Republican presidency now reduces the chances that Ted Cruz will run for president in 2020.

I think the silver lining is that Trump may turn out better for Democratic priorities than Clinton. His past political utterances (prior to running) seemed like fairly typical Manhattan rich person opinions and values. Sure he's more populist than Hillary but populism isn't completely antimatter to Democratic values, it's the Bill Clinton "New Democrats" that bought the party 100% onto the corporatist side.

You've got a point, but I'm not sure if he can insulate himself from the influence of all the people he's going to surround himself with.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

I think the silver lining is that Trump may turn out better for Democratic priorities than Clinton. His past political utterances (prior to running) seemed like fairly typical Manhattan rich person opinions and values. Sure he's more populist than Hillary but populism isn't completely antimatter to Democratic values, it's the Bill Clinton "New Democrats" that bought the party 100% onto the corporatist side.

Do you really think what comes next will be coming from Trump? He didn't really demonstrate even a basic understanding of things or the ability to string together two coherent thoughts. What happens next will be driven by whomever he surrounds himself with. May he choose wisely.

 

[glenn1]

Do you really think what comes next will be coming from Trump? He didn't really demonstrate even a basic understanding of things or the ability to string together two coherent thoughts. What happens next will be driven by whomever he surrounds himself with. May he choose wisely.

After saying the same thing with Reagan and then Dubya, you might want to reconsider the ability of your political opponents to get up to speed and correct your perceptions about their mental prowess. The "Republicans are stupid because if they were smart they'd be Democrats" is both factually wrong and stupidly condescending.

 

[flexy]

Trump may run the country to the ground, but your OP implies that people would be capable to understand who is reponsible and why. I sort of have doubts this would happen.
It's more realistic to assume that Trump (or the next "Trump") will point fingers at Jose (or whoever) and blame them for their own faults. They are adept at this. And the sheep will again buy it, 100% and no questions asked.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

After saying the same thing with Reagan and then Dubya, you might want to reconsider the ability of your political opponents to get up to speed and correct your perceptions about their mental prowess. The "Republicans are stupid because if they were smart they'd be Democrats" is both factually wrong and stupidly condescending.

That's quite the leap from what I said. I am specifically talking Trump. He lacks knowledge and understanding. He hasn't shown interest in changing that in the year and a half he's been running. He seems to want to be a figurehead. A brand if you will. Delegate everything to his VP etc... This isn't news here.

 

[glenn1]

That's quite the leap from what I said. I am specifically talking Trump. He lacks knowledge and understanding. He hasn't shown interest in changing that in the year and a half he's been running. He seems to want to be a figurehead. A brand if you will. Delegate everything to his VP etc... This isn't news here.

That's one possibility. Another is that he correctly determined that's not what the voting public cared about this year. Clinton spent her time in debate prep, learning scads of largely irrelevant details of policy minutiae, et cetera and look what that got her. I'm not saying knowledge has no use or whatever but that what makes for a good President isn't the same thing that makes for a good Jeopardy champion. Sometimes it is really as simple as having the correct instincts about what to do rather than being able to rattle off facts about it. In a crisis situation facts are going to be scarce or quickly outdated/irrelevant anyway. Now whether Trump has those good instincts and wisdom to make good choices in a crisis situation, that we'll find out.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

That's one possibility. Another is that he correctly determined that's not what the voting public cared about this year. Clinton spent her time in debate prep, learning scads of largely irrelevant details of policy minutiae, et cetera and look what that got her. I'm not saying knowledge has no use or whatever but that what makes for a good President isn't the same thing that makes for a good Jeopardy champion. Sometimes it is really as simple as having the correct instincts about what to do rather than being able to rattle off facts about it. In a crisis situation facts are going to be scarce or quickly outdated/irrelevant anyway. Now whether Trump has those good instincts and wisdom to make good choices in a crisis situation, that we'll find out.

I'm not talking about crisis. I'm talking the day to day everything that needs to be addressed and fixed. Nothing I have seen fills me with confidence that he will be the one putting forth the ideas. So I hope the people he surrounds himself with aren't a gaggle of yes men and appeasers. He needs solid people who will tell him what he doesn't want to hear when necessary.

 

[soundforbjt]

I'm not talking about crisis. I'm talking the day to day everything that needs to be addressed and fixed. Nothing I have seen fills me with confidence that he will be the one putting forth the ideas. So I hope the people he surrounds himself with aren't a gaggle of yes men and appeasers. He needs solid people who will tell him what he doesn't want to hear when necessary.

And that could be a problem for Trump, a man who's never wrong.

 

[brycejones]

The GOP has free reign over health care now. When their ideas fail badly maybe we'll finally be ready to move on as a country to a real solution.

 

[IronWing]

Alec Baldwin has four years of job security!

 

[pauldun170]

FoxNews is the leading News organization in the US.
Republicans hold House and Senate. Many are of the idiot variety brought in by Tea Bagger\Evangelical Republican Politician factories.
A Republican is in the White House.
There is a good chance that Scalia's replacement will be Scalia-esque.

Looking forward to the GOP and the middle America they represent providing evidence of what they are truly capable of.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I'm looking forward to the party of sour grapes whining and crying and holding their breath and stomping their feet during the next 4 years. May have to rename the forum as ATP&N Comedy Club

 

[glenn1]

I'm not talking about crisis. I'm talking the day to day everything that needs to be addressed and fixed. Nothing I have seen fills me with confidence that he will be the one putting forth the ideas. So I hope the people he surrounds himself with aren't a gaggle of yes men and appeasers. He needs solid people who will tell him what he doesn't want to hear when necessary.

Everything you say applies to every President who are pretty much "big picture thinkers" by nature and need to surround themselves with good advisors. Even if Obama came into office with 1,000x the knowledge Trump does, Obama probably still knew about 1/1,000th of what he needed to know to handle "everything needing to be addressed and fixed." That's the nature of specialization in the modern world.

As far as "the one putting forth the ideas," very few Presidents put forth any original ideas whatsoever. And that's proper - a President isn't some idealized philosopher-king. He/she is there to push solutions and policy agendas that have probably been in play by their party or others for decades. Some of the typical 'ideas' being put forth by Presidents predate the founding of the Republic but are just adjusted to fit modern conditions.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I'm looking forward to the party of sour grapes whining and crying and holding their breath and stomping their feet during the next 4 years. May have to rename the forum as ATP&N Comedy Club

have you paid attention to the cockblocking the gop has done over the past 8 years, or does that all get a pass, because, well, you know..

 

[ivwshane]

FoxNews is the leading News organization in the US.
Republicans hold House and Senate. Many are of the idiot variety brought in by Tea Bagger\Evangelical Republican Politician factories.
A Republican is in the White House.
There is a good chance that Scalia's replacement will be Scalia-esque.

Looking forward to the GOP and the middle America they represent providing evidence of what they are truly capable of.

You seem to have missed the point of this thread.