The Silver Lining of the Left in Power

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0marTheZealot

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Uhhh, hellooo?

Big government = more government power

Small government = less government power

Whomever is advocating big government, Republicrat or Democan, is after more power. Choose wisely.

The government has expanded just as much, if not more, during Republican administrations. The whole "small government" is just bullshit fed to the masses. Reagan, Bush I and Bush II all greatly expanded the powers of the federal government, even more so than Democrats.
 

dmcowen674

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While some here may live in a world of dreams and fairy dust, most of us have to work for a living, want to raise our children right and wish for liberty and economic opportunity for all.

We elect our government officials to represent the common good. Sorely disappointing, we see only a government representative of special interests.

Each Administration has a particular character. Some are bold, others timid. Some shoot for breakthroughs and great things, others wimper under the challenge, uncertain and dissolute.

We are now approaching the end of the first year of the Obama Administration. Not surprisingly, it is highly representative of the Left, and almost not at all of the Right.

But some people, let's call them "Independents," are shocked! Shocked, I say! that the Obama Administration is so damn liberal.

They had listened to the soporific speeches, the dulcet tones, the seductive turns of phrase meant to mean whatever it is you thought he might mean. An ever optimistic bunch, Americans voted the Left into power.

Now, the price is being paid for optimism and naivete. And the somnolescent masses are awakening to a brave new world. And they are shocked. Shocked, I say!

So when you leaving?
 

PokerGuy

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Jul 2, 2005
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Excellent posts OP, the truth is finally starting to sink in to all but the most radical of lefties and crazies. The dems are going to take a pounding in 2010.
 

Mursilis

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Another factually challenged ultra right wing editorial posted by PJABBER.

Seriously, either ignore him or rebut him, but pissing and whining like a child because someone posts something you don't like only demeans you, not him.
 

TruePaige

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Oct 22, 2006
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Seriously, either ignore him or rebut him, but pissing and whining like a child because someone posts something you don't like only demeans you, not him.

Ethos counts for a lot around here. PJABBER has already proven himself a liar and one who will misrepresent facts.
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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Jan 24, 2004
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Sigh, the topic title interested me it wasn't until after I clicked on it that I realized who the auther was and stopped reading : (
 

fskimospy

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Seriously, either ignore him or rebut him, but pissing and whining like a child because someone posts something you don't like only demeans you, not him.

This has become a pretty standard line around here, and it's one that really shouldn't be left alone. In the normal rules of debate the burden of proof is on the person making a statement. Here, some people attempt to have the exact opposite rules apply. They either say something crazy themselves or quote an insane right or left wing fringe source that has zero credibility and then say 'prove me wrong!'. That's not how it works.

Why I should have to write a research paper every time someone acts like an idiot when we all KNOW what he is doing is beyond me.

The correct rebuttal in these circumstances is to point out that a non-credible source has made an absurd statement, which I have done. Or were you really looking for an intellectual debate centered around the statement 'when society starts to fray around the edges, liberalism is at the heart of the problem'?
 

yllus

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I think as soon as I find where to ignore a poster I'm going to have to add you to it. I'm getting too old to waste time on idiocy of this level.
 

Mursilis

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Why I should have to write a research paper every time someone acts like an idiot when we all KNOW what he is doing is beyond me.

If we all KNOW these things, why do you feel compelled to point them out? Like I already said numerous times, you're only bumping his threads.
 

Steeplerot

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Mar 29, 2004
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Hmmm, time to try ignore feature, this handy wall o' wingnut thread looks like a great place to start.
 

fskimospy

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If we all KNOW these things, why do you feel compelled to point them out? Like I already said numerous times, you're only bumping his threads.

Allow me to rephrase. The vast majority of people know this, but some don't. With that in mind allowing his ridiculous shit to remain unchallenged is a bad idea. Better? As for his threads being bumped, who cares?
 

Ausm

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Oct 9, 1999
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Why doesn't this dumbfuck OP get busted for posting opinion posts and blogs like every other fucking person does?
 

shira

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When I see something - ANYTHING - of substance posted by PJIBBERISH, I'll gladly nail his pathetic intellect to the wall.

I won't waste my time responding to his actual drivel.
 

PJABBER

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When I see something - ANYTHING - of substance posted by PJIBBERISH, I'll gladly nail his pathetic intellect to the wall.
I won't waste my time responding to his actual drivel.

Why doesn't this dumbfuck OP get busted for posting opinion posts and blogs like every other fucking person does?

Maybe it is because I have lots of valid points to make, I am amusing to those able to take a joke, I don't use foul language and I am invariably polite. Unless I get fed up with dunderheads.

I am still waiting for any semblance of rational discourse or an actual rebuttal with documentation and references from the lefties here, as opposed to whimpering denial. But all they can do is whine, whine, whine.
 
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nobodyknows

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Maybe it is because I have lots of valid points to make, I am amusing to those able to take a joke, I don't use foul language and I am invariably polite. Unless I get fed up with dunderheads.

I am still waiting for any semblance of rational discourse or an actual rebuttal with documentation and references from the lefties here, as opposed to whimpering denial. But all they can do is whine, whine, whine.

The shit you post is not worth the effort to take seriously. Your sources are nothing b ut pimps and have no real intellectual honesty. I mean Pat Buchanan? LMFAO!!

It's so much more fun to troll in your post because, hey if it's good enough for the OP then it's good enough for me too.
 

jonks

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Well, "I don't know" is always a valid answer. Kudos for not just saying "conservatism". I can certainly agree that divorce is probably better more often than not if parents honestly just can't get along. I think though in this case it's true that a lot of damage was done, especially to black families, by well-intentioned social programs. Whether the good outweighed the bad - I think I'll fall back on "I don't know" as well, since I know some people who grew up on welfare with a single mother not actually capable of raising them and providing a living, mothers for whom welfare rules were the least of their problems in finding and keeping a man. Or at least a man worth having.

Then again, though "I don't know", I can almost guarantee that children raised in a loving home by two parents regardless of their sex will do better than those raised by one parent or in foster homes. Yet "liberals" are fighting to allow same-sex couples the opportunity to raise these unwanted children while conservatives are fighting to prevent it, thus damning more kids to foster homes.

Further, divorce rates are highest in the most conservative states, and are most difficult to attain in some of the liberal states like NY, where there is no divorce granted for irreconcilable differences.

The 'silver lining' of the left in power is that it isn't the right. I remember the 8 years before Obama, I guess we'll see if voters do next year.