The Sham of a Mockery of an Obama Jobs Summit

[boomerang]

This is an opinion piece in the WSJ. If you have issues with opinion pieces being discussed here you should read no further. As this event has not yet taken place, all that can be done is to conjecture at this point.

http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2009/12/02/mean-street-the-sham-of-a-mockery-of-an-obama-jobs-summit/

A “real” jobs summit would focus on how American businesses can win globally. A “real” jobs summit would consider why Texas can compete for jobs and California can’t. A “real” jobs summit would look at permanent corporate and payroll tax cuts. And a “real” jobs summit would actually embrace debate, not stifle it.

This paragraph pretty much sums up my thoughts on this dog and pony show being put on tomorrow. This summit has little to do with jobs and everything to do with putting on a show for the faithful. Those that have seen through our Chairman have figured out he's more about style than substance. It's clear that the administration will start becoming concerned about jobs when they're either damn good and ready, or after the revolt.

Near the end the author says that the summit will be declared a success. Of that I am certain. The people's party is always successful.

Viva La Revolucion!

 

[Fern]

I think most reasonable people realize this is a 'marketing effort' to demonstrate to the American people that the administration 'cares' about unemployment and the economy. As of late, the focus of Washington has been on anything but that.

Fern

 

[woodie1]

I've little doubt that this will be a dog and pony show. I saw a few suggestions that some of the attendees will make and even though they speak from experience I full well know their ideas will have no traction will the BHO folks.

 

[nobodyknows]

As has already been pointed out in another thread, you could eliminate taxes entirely and Americans still couldn't compete with people working for $2/day.

 

[sandorski]

Blogger with an agenda and full of Loose. I see a Sham and a Mockery, but it's not where you might think.

 

[boomerang]

I've little doubt that this will be a dog and pony show. I saw a few suggestions that some of the attendees will make and even though they speak from experience I full well know their ideas will have no traction will the BHO folks.

What convinced me was when I started reading about who was invited and who wasn't.

Those that oppose the administration have no place at the table. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is not invited as well as the NFIB. Both groups having been vocal in their opposition to some policies.

Big campaign contributors are of course going to be in attendance. This behavior besides being childish and tiresome, is crossing over into reprehensible territory.

In other news, I saw a piece on the tube stating that Harry Reid intends to exclude Congressional staffers from the health care legislation. So virtually everyone in DC is too good for the plan that is all well and good for the masses. I have to say that I cannot find any confirmation of this on the web at this time.

 

[boomerang]

Blogger with an agenda and full of Loose. I see a Sham and a Mockery, but it's not where you might think.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Canadian+political+forums

 

[DonaldC]

In other news, I saw a piece on the tube stating that Harry Reid intends to exclude Congressional staffers from the health care legislation. So virtually everyone in DC is too good for the plan that is all well and good for the masses. I have to say that I cannot find any confirmation of this on the web at this time.

I sure would like to see confirmation on this.

 

[sandorski]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Canadian+political+forums

Perhaps you should do the same for US Forums?

 

[StageLeft]

People need jobs not jobs summits where people with jobs pretend to be anything other than damn glad that the summit isn't [yet] for them.

 

[boomerang]

I sure would like to see confirmation on this.

I know. Me too. I haven't found anything yet. I saw it on Cavuto's show this afternoon. He had two guests he was interviewing regarding the story.

 

[rchiu]

Blogger with an agenda and full of Loose. I see a Sham and a Mockery, but it's not where you might think.

Heh, attack the messenger when you got nothing on the message. I used to think it's pathetic for conservatives to do those kind of things for their messiah but looks like it's worse after Obama came into power with his worshippers.

Only thing I disagreed with the OP's article is that part where Washington lacks substance. Washington has substance alright, we will be spending a solid $800 billion on health care, unknown billions on this new Afghan deployment, but for the unemployment, which is at historic height? what 1, 2 million for this "summit"?

Washington can have substance, just based on their priorty. Oh and priority based on where money goes, and not what the politicians says. Including that politician who said that he would bring hope and change into the office.

 

[First]

...I saw it on Cavuto's show this afternoon...

rofl.

 

[Sinsear]

Why do we need a jobs summit? What happened to the "5 million green jobs" the last stimulus bill was supposed to create.

 

[cubeless]

Why do we need a jobs summit? What happened to the "5 million green jobs" the last stimulus bill was supposed to create.

but having the job summit kept the people at it and covering it employed, so that counts as jobs bo saved...

 

[Rainsford]

You know, even in a political environment where reaching new lows is hardly worth mentioning any more, passing judgement on something that hasn't happened yet seems worthy of special mention. The idea that Republican and Democrat, liberal and conservative, are just rough descriptions of people who have different ideas about solving the same problems is well and truly dying. Instead, it's all about fighting for your "team"...the specific issues you're fighting about are just inconsequential details.

You know what I'd like to see a summit about? Why Republicans and Democrats (including the useless tools at the WSJ at the OP in this thread) are more interested in beating each other up ABOUT the economy than they are in FIXING the economy. If the morons in Congress, the Senate on TV and on the Internet spent more time trying to solve the problem and less time using it as a cudgel to push their favorite political cause (yeah, yeah, conservatives prefer Texas to Cali...news at 11), I get the feeling we'd have double digit GDP growth already.

But that's not what those people really want, is it? Not a chance in hell.

 

[nobodyknows]

Heh, attack the messenger when you got nothing on the message. I used to think it's pathetic for conservatives to do those kind of things for their messiah but looks like it's worse after Obama came into power with his worshippers.

Only thing I disagreed with the OP's article is that part where Washington lacks substance. Washington has substance alright, we will be spending a solid $800 billion on health care, unknown billions on this new Afghan deployment, but for the unemployment, which is at historic height? what 1, 2 million for this "summit"?

Washington can have substance, just based on their priorty. Oh and priority based on where money goes, and not what the politicians says. Including that politician who said that he would bring hope and change into the office.

Go China!!!

 

[charrison]

As has already been pointed out in another thread, you could eliminate taxes entirely and Americans still couldn't compete with people working for $2/day.

They can and the do. It is called productivity.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Will Obama or anyone at the Jobs Summit dare mention anything related to Global Labor Arbitrage–foreign outsourcing, foreign work visas (like the H-1B and L-1), and mass immigration (legal and illegal)?

I predict that this issue won’t be substantively discussed beyond perhaps a brief mention for the purposes of dismissing it as irrational protectionism and xenophobia. Instead they’ll probably talk about the mythological need for more and better education (for, in reality, non-existent job positions) as the solution to our problems. (Got lots of unemployed and underemployed college graduates? Solution–educate more people!) It’s a touchy-feely solution that makes everyone feel warm and fuzzy and that way they won’t have to talk about doing nasty things the wealthy and bleeding hearts don’t like such as imposing tariffs, ending the work visa programs, and reducing immigration. It will allow our politicians to kick the can down the road past another election cycle and they’ll be able to proudly tell the American people that they are doing something.

You can learn more about why the American economy is collapsing and why our nation is losing jobs by reading this excellent brief introduction to Global Labor Arbitrage:

http://outsourcing.yuku.com/topic/364/t/What-is-Global-Labor-Arbitrage.html

 

[Bowfinger]

As has already been pointed out in another thread, you could eliminate taxes entirely and Americans still couldn't compete with people working for $2/day.

Hush you. The hate-mongers aren't interested in acknowledging the gaping, obvious holes in their "arguments" when it hinders their lust to attack. It's the taxes, dammit, taxes I tell you!

 

[Bowfinger]

You know, even in a political environment where reaching new lows is hardly worth mentioning any more, passing judgement on something that hasn't happened yet seems worthy of special mention. The idea that Republican and Democrat, liberal and conservative, are just rough descriptions of people who have different ideas about solving the same problems is well and truly dying. Instead, it's all about fighting for your "team"...the specific issues you're fighting about are just inconsequential details.

You know what I'd like to see a summit about? Why Republicans and Democrats (including the useless tools at the WSJ at the OP in this thread) are more interested in beating each other up ABOUT the economy than they are in FIXING the economy. If the morons in Congress, the Senate on TV and on the Internet spent more time trying to solve the problem and less time using it as a cudgel to push their favorite political cause (yeah, yeah, conservatives prefer Texas to Cali...news at 11), I get the feeling we'd have double digit GDP growth already.

But that's not what those people really want, is it? Not a chance in hell.

Indeed. Well said, and of course ignored.

 

[nobodyknows]

They can and the do. It is called productivity.

So your saying that the American worker is lazy, stupid, or lazy and stupid?

I guess I need an example of what you mean?

 

[xenolith]

Hush you. The hate-mongers aren't interested in acknowledging the gaping, obvious holes in their "arguments" when it hinders their lust to attack. It's the taxes, dammit, taxes I tell you!

Other than attacking the the hate-monger with... well... hate... how about you telling us what your solution is to record unemployment/underemployment.

Oh yeah, I suppose that would be more spending and more taxes?

 

[sandorski]

Other than attacking the the hate-monger with... well... hate... how about you telling us what your solution is to record unemployment/underemployment.

Oh yeah, I suppose that would be more spending and more taxes?

New Industry. I suggest Green Tech Industry.

 

[charrison]

So your saying that the American worker is lazy, stupid, or lazy and stupid?

I guess I need an example of what you mean?

It is called working smarter, not harder. We just have have to be more automated and produce per unit of labor than a low country does. ALso realize that moving work out of the country has its own added costs(transport, tariffs, added travel costs,...)