The scum that is Gloria Alred and the unions in CA.

DucatiMonster696

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Anyone remember the "scandal" which effected Meg Whitman (the GOP gubernatorial canidate in CA going against the hack Jerry Brown) in which she was accused of knowingly hiring a maid who was illegal by the dem smear machine in the state and then later also accused of mistreating and underpaying the maid by that scumbag lawyer Gloria Alred?

Well soon after this story broke it was disclosed that the maid lied about her legal status to the agency which hired her and used faked SS numbers to gain the job. This illegal was also being paid $23 dollars an hour by Meg along with having access to medical benefits. Of course once Meg found out about her status she was fired soon afterward just before Meg made her announcement to run for the governor's office in CA.

Of course at the time no one really knew where this woman came from and how she got in contact with that scumbag hack for the dem party, Gloria Alred. Well the mystery is now solved. Apparently the nurses union in a bid to prevent anyone who would threaten the parasitic strangle hold unions have on the state where the ones involved in pushing this illegals case onto the public along with providing the proper media coaching and giving her access to Gloria Alred to work this issue in favor of Jerry Brown during the campaign.


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/11/22/MN151GFQK1.DTL

Whitman's maid story was pushed by nurses union


One of the most tantalizing mysteries in California's 2010 gubernatorial election involved the connection between one of the state's poorest women and one of its wealthiest.

How did an undocumented, Mexican-born housekeeper, Nicandra Diaz Santillan, end up in the national spotlight, boldly confronting her former boss, billionaire GOP gubernatorial candidate Meg Whitman?

The short answer: with the help of a union.

The longer answer is that at the height of the gubernatorial race, as campaign ads blared on Spanish-language television, the aggrieved housekeeper was determined to tell Californians her story of being abruptly fired by Whitman after nearly a decade on the job.

In early September, Diaz turned to a friend who knew a member of the powerful, Oakland-based California Nurses Association, The Chronicle has learned.

The union called in two lawyers for Diaz: Marc Van Der Hout, a longtime immigration attorney in San Francisco, and celebrity feminist attorney Gloria Allred, a fierce workplace rights litigator who arranged for Diaz to tell her story in a live-webcast news conference.

Asked to confirm her organization's role in Diaz's case, Rose Ann DeMoro, the nurses union executive director, said Monday, "I won't deny it, but I prefer not to comment directly on the case."

Whitman, a former eBay CEO, has alleged that Diaz was used by unions backing her Democratic opponent, Jerry Brown, and engaged in "the politics of personal destruction." Her campaign said the California Nurses Association's role was suspected after its spokesman, Chuck Idelson, turned up at a widely watched Diaz news conference - and refused comment on the matter.

But several sources close to the matter, speaking on condition that they not be named, have now confirmed the union's role in Diaz's emergence, a moment labor leaders hailed as a watershed in the immigrant-rights movement - and political opponents have called a classic campaign dirty trick.

The housekeeper and mother of three would not comment for this story, and has not given interviews to the news media outside of the news conferences at Allred's side.
Devastated by dismissal

But sources familiar with the matter say Diaz, a Union City resident who has lived in the country for more than a decade, was emotionally and financially devastated by her sudden firing by Whitman in 2009, for whom she had worked since 2000.

Diaz made her decision to come forward with her story as Whitman's gubernatorial campaign was in high gear; the wealthy candidate, who touted herself as "tough as nails" on illegal immigration before the June primary, had blanketed the airwaves with millions of dollars in ads through the summer of 2010 - including ads on Spanish-language television.

But in the same period, the California Nurses Association - which endorsed Brown - mounted Spanish-language ads likening Whitman's immigration policy to former Gov. Pete Wilson's, and portraying Whitman as the wealthy "Queen Meg" candidate trying to "buy" California. At one point, the union sent 1,500 nurses to march outside the same Atherton mansion where Diaz had worked.
Wanted representation

Diaz "was aware of us, and our protests of Whitman," said one union insider closely involved with the issue. "She wanted legal representation - and she wanted justice. She wanted to be able to tell her story."

One union insider said the first reaction to news that one of Whitman's former housekeepers wanted to go public was an elated "Thank you, thank you, thank you."

But, "we were concerned about her immigration status - and concerned about her," the source said.

Diaz was carefully vetted and interviewed by union insiders, and counseled "for days" regarding the implications of going public as an undocumented worker, sources said.

But "she really wanted to do it," said one source. "She was like steel."

Diaz insisted Whitman always knew she was undocumented; she said Whitman had been contacted by government officials regarding problems with her Social Security number.

Whitman insisted she hired Diaz through an agency and always believed her to be a legal resident; when she learned she was not, she had no choice but to let her go, Whitman said.

But the nurses union leadership did for Diaz what Whitman did not - they got her legal help.

Diaz's emergence was a turning point in Whitman's ambitious 18-month gubernatorial campaign - one in which the candidate personally invested $145 million, and became the largest self-funded candidacy in American history.
News conference a factor

Pollsters say one key factor in helping to derail Whitman's carefully planned drive - and the resulting 13-point landslide victory for Brown - was Diaz herself.

In the housekeeper's tearful televised testimony during an explosive news conference at Allred's side - one of the most searing moments of the gubernatorial race - Diaz said she was treated "like garbage," and coldly fired after nine years with a voice mail message from Whitman: "You don't know me, and I don't know you."

Last week, Whitman and her husband, Dr. Griffith Harsh, agreed to pay $5,500 to close out Diaz's claim for unpaid back wages, though they admitted no guilt.

Even in the wake of calls by candidate Whitman and conservative pundits like Bill O'Reilly for her deportation, Diaz is now pursuing an application to become a permanent legal resident, Van Der Hout said last week.

Diaz "is not in hiding ... and she is not fearing arrest," he said. "She has a compelling case because of her long history in the United States and her family ties ... and I am optimistic that she will eventually obtain lawful status."

Labor groups have now begun a fund to help support the still-unemployed worker, and California Labor Federation head Art Pulaski recently hailed the undocumented housekeeper as a hero who might now serve as a galvanizing force in the movement for comprehensive immigration reform.

DeMoro, in an open letter to Diaz this month published by National Nurses United, publicly thanked the housekeeper for "your courage in taking a difficult stand that undoubtedly changed history."
 
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Ns1

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she needs to be deported ASAP. illegal immigrant lying on employment application = deport her ass.
 

JSt0rm

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The supreme court said its ok for unions and corporations to use their money to sway political power. Why do you hate the supreme court? I thought the neocons liked this ruling?
 

DucatiMonster696

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she needs to be deported ASAP. illegal immigrant lying on employment application = deport her ass.

Unfortunately Dems and the unions in the state are fighting hard to keep her in this nation and trying to tie illegal immigration and their class-warfare views to further their political agenda which is going to hurt American Citizens and Legal Immigrants in the end.
 

IBMer

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You are right they are all fight hard to keep her here. Who is she again?
 

sandorski

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Oh well, seems like many conjure up shenanigans to undermine an opponent. Until everyone begins to condemn everyone who fabricates shit, shit will continue.
 

fskimospy

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Whitman got crushed, she might have been crushed slightly less without this story. Boo hoo.

In other news, politicians and their parties use shady tactics to undermine their political opponents. Shocking.
 

bfdd

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Does how her story came to light make her story any less true?

The story that she's an illegal whom lied to her employer and when they found out they fired her? No it doesn't change it, but it sure as shit shines a bright light on the dumbasses who thought they'd try to spin it into something detrimental to Meg Whitman's campaign. I find it hilarious that there are people on these boards that actually think unions are different, that they're really good and trying to help the little guy. LOL, from my personal experience, no they're not.
 

Harvey

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DucatiMonster696 -- Get your freaking facts straight. The issue was never whether Nicandra Diaz Santillan was here illegally. The issue was Whittman's hypocrisy. Whittman had previously, and very publicly, railed against illegal aliens while SHE KNEW ABOUT her own employee, Santillan's immigration status and only fired her AFTER the matter became public.

In the Republican priimary, Meg Whittman spent a record amount of money in a pissing contest with Steve Poizner, each trying to prove who could be the biggest shithole, and in that aspect of the contest, they both won.

Then,Whittman spent a record amount of money in the main election trying to do the same thing to Gerry Brown.

The good news is, that lame, sorry old hypocritical windbag lost. :cool: :thumbsup:
 

werepossum

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Another dose of Brown is just what CA needs.
Actually, he's probably the lesser evil. I've nothing against Whitman, but California government is totally ruled by progressives and constrained by many different court rulings and ballot initiative laws. Whitman, as a nominally conservative outsider, would be totally lost. Brown probably won't fix anything - assuming it CAN be fixed - but he will at least know how to keep the state limping along.

DucatiMonster696 -- Get your freaking facts straight. The issue was never whether Nicandra Diaz Santillan was here illegally. The issue was Whittman's hypocrisy. Whittman had previously, and very publicly, railed against illegal aliens while SHE KNEW ABOUT her own employee, Santillan's immigration status and only fired her AFTER the matter became public.

In the Republican priimary, Meg Whittman spent a record amount of money in a pissing contest with Steve Poizner, each trying to prove who could be the biggest shithole, and in that aspect of the contest, they both won.

Then,Whittman spent a record amount of money in the main election trying to do the same thing to Gerry Brown.

The good news is, that lame, sorry old hypocritical windbag lost. :cool: :thumbsup:

For someone telling another to get his facts straight, you are remarkably dishonest. Santillan was hired through an agency which vetted her according to the forged documents SHE provided; she was hired with the assumption that she was in fact a legal resident. The IRS sent a letter to Whitman saying there was a discrepancy with her social security number. The letter the IRS sent said exactly nothing about her being an illegal alien; we all know this, because it's been posted on this board. The maid, who had everything to lose by being proven illegal, alleges that she saw subsequent letters thrown in the mail, even though the IRS said there were no subsequent letters on file. Whitman alleges that bringing in the mail was the maid's job and that she never saw any subsequent letters. We don't even know that she saw that one; the letter was handled by Whitman's husband, as we know because it has his handwriting telling Santillan to "handle it". There are three possibilities here: There were no subsequent letters; there were subsequent letters, which Whitman et al threw away even though she risked legal action; there were subsequent letters, which the maid threw away rather than pass them to Whitman and risk being fired and deported. The only "evidence" of the one possibility which implicates Whitman in hypocrisy is the testimony of the maid herself - an admitted illegal alien and indicted felon (document forger) - yet you assert that is the only possible outcome. Bullshit. You blame Whitman solely because she committed the heinous crime of running for office without benefit of a "D" next to her name. Everyone knows this. (Where the hell IS the Pig anyway?)
 

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bfdd

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DucatiMonster696 -- Get your freaking facts straight. The issue was never whether Nicandra Diaz Santillan was here illegally. The issue was Whittman's hypocrisy. Whittman had previously, and very publicly, railed against illegal aliens while SHE KNEW ABOUT her own employee, Santillan's immigration status and only fired her AFTER the matter became public.

In the Republican priimary, Meg Whittman spent a record amount of money in a pissing contest with Steve Poizner, each trying to prove who could be the biggest shithole, and in that aspect of the contest, they both won.

Then,Whittman spent a record amount of money in the main election trying to do the same thing to Gerry Brown.

The good news is, that lame, sorry old hypocritical windbag lost. :cool: :thumbsup:
So I take it you know nothing about the story then. I don't even make this big of an asshat out of myself as you just did and I've pretty much perfected the art.
 

werepossum

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So I take it you know nothing about the story then. I don't even make this big of an asshat out of myself as you just did and I've pretty much perfected the art.
:D indeed.

If you can't laugh at yourself, well, you can always kick puppies.
 

DucatiMonster696

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Whitman got crushed, she might have been crushed slightly less without this story. Boo hoo.

In other news, politicians and their parties use shady tactics to undermine their political opponents. Shocking.

I don't mind one bit that Whitman lost the election but I do care about how the nurses unions and that hack Gloria Alred went about undermining Whitman's campaign.

I also care about the coalition of unions who are now seeking to reward this illegal with US citizenship even though she is an admitted liar and used fraudulent SS numbers to gain unlawful employment in this nation. Along with this illegal then proceeding to be a party to a political attack against an American citizen running for public office.

Then again it seems you liberals don't really value our US citizenship (or the election process) or those who go about gaining said citizenship in the right and legal manner.