The Salesman's manifesto:

[gabemcg]

*This was my response to a post in This Thread

I've yet to chime in on This thread

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: NokiaDude
The car market is in a slump. Companies are really desprate buy offering employee pricing to consumers. Ever since GM started the employee pricing, their sales picked up and now everyone is on the bandwagon. Long gone are the days where dealerships made a couple of thousand on a car deal.

The only ones paying much more over invoice are the ones that are suckers or have never heard of the internet. In 1996 when I bought my last car it was unheard of to get a copy of the invoice now you can't look up a car on the internet without getting the invoice price. Just remember, that reduction is price hurt the dealer a little but it hurt the salesman a lot. If you don't get the price above a certain level you get a very small commission per car.

Basically you have obtained a job where you only benefit if you try to get people to pay more than anyone else. The more lieing and deception you use the more successful you will be and the more you will hate yourself for being such a scumbag. Turnover rate for salesmen is huge, not everyone is cut out to be a crook.

I'm sorry you have such a bad impression of salespeople. I'm fairly certian from your attitude that at some point in time an uncrupulous salesperson rubbed you the wrong way. Truth be told, there are bad apples in any buisiness. But I feel it's unfair for you to categorically imply that all salespeople are, in fact, "bad apples."

I've been in sales for over two years now, and have sold a variety of products, and one thing I've come to realize is that without these, "scumbags" as you so bluntly put it; any open market, capatalist society would come crumbling down on top of itself.

I think that www.gmarketing.com puts it well when they say of salespeople:

Without them we never would know about products and services that may save and enrich our lives. Salespeople are the "doctors" who uncover our wants and needs and provide us with goods and services which make us more successful, look good, feel good, be healthier, happier and, in every way, better off because of them. Salespeople have a high calling, an important and critical purpose in the world.

Furthermore, there is not one product or service that you own, use, or have ever owned or used that you would have enjoyed the benifits of without the service of a salesperson. Perhaps you were not the one being sold, but somewhere along the line a, "crook" recieved a commission to put that product in a position where it would generate a profit for the people who created it.

Perhaps not everyone is blessed with the benevolent view that such an utter distain for salespeople provides. Perhaps you should enlighten us all; what a wonderfull world it would be without salespeople, without the sick notions of, "profit" and, "commission." Perhaps you and you alone hold the key to this utopian society, where everyone works, and instead of profiting from their labors, are compensated by a communal exchange of goods and services for free.

Perhaps this has been tried in the past, perhaps it's called Communisim...

Perhaps the reason that Sales is the most hated proffession is that it is the most neccisary. I don't particularly enjoy visiting the dentist, but I need him. Perhaps, somewhere down deep we all realize that without salespeople the world would be a much different place, a much worse place.

This my friends is why I'm happy to be disliked, why I'm happy to be loathed, why I enjoy reciving a fair compensation for the hard work that I do. This is why I love to sell...

 

[bootymac]

K, did this really need its own thread?

 

[Ticks]

i can sell a ketchup popsicle to a woman in white gloves.

 

[gabemcg]

Originally posted by: bootymac
K, did this really need its own thread?

did the "why do salespeople suck" thead really need it's own thread?

 

[TommyVercetti]

Without them we never would know about products and services that may save and enrich our lives. Salespeople are the "doctors" who uncover our wants and needs and provide us with goods and services which make us more successful, look good, feel good, be healthier, happier and, in every way, better off because of them. Salespeople have a high calling, an important and critical purpose in the world.

What a load of bs. What products and services do they tell us about that we can't find out ourselves?

 

[RaynorWolfcastle]

Perhaps, somewhere down deep we all realize that without salespeople the world would be a much different place, a much worse place.

Salespeople are hated because they constantly spew self-serving crap like this. The best (worst?) part of it is that they don't realize how egotistical they sound, it's second nature to them.

 

[MazerRackham]

I can sell Raid to a bug.

 

[notfred]

Interesting that your definition of "sales people" includes the entire marketing department.

 

[rocadelpunk]

Originally posted by: MazerRackham
I can sell Raid to a bug.

lmao

 

[gabemcg]

Originally posted by: notfred
Interesting that your definition of "sales people" includes the entire marketing department.

It's all a form of sales...

I'm suprised people don't vehimately hate TV commercials, and ads in magazines as much as they do salespeople. I guess it's just easier to put a face to the pent up rage when you have some guy that's just trying to make an honest living staring at you...

 

[KLin]

Originally posted by: gabemcg

Originally posted by: notfred
Interesting that your definition of "sales people" includes the entire marketing department.

It's all a form of sales...

I'm suprised people don't vehimately hate TV commercials, and ads in magazines as much as they do salespeople. I guess it's just easier to put a face to the pent up rage when you have some guy that's just trying to make an honest living staring at you...

Now there's an oxymoron when it comes to salespeople :laugh:

 

[Brazen]

Society would come crumbling down if people only bought what they NEED.

 

[notfred]

Originally posted by: gabemcg

Originally posted by: notfred
Interesting that your definition of "sales people" includes the entire marketing department.

It's all a form of sales...

I'm suprised people don't vehimately hate TV commercials, and ads in magazines as much as they do salespeople. I guess it's just easier to put a face to the pent up rage when you have some guy that's just trying to make an honest living staring at you...

Commercials are much easier to ignore, and they're much less annoying. When you turn off the TV, the commercial goes away. When you say "no thanks" to a salesman, that's not always the case.

 

[gabemcg]

Originally posted by: Brazen
Society would come crumbling down if people only bought what they NEED.

Very true. But we wouldn't be having this conversation if people only bought what they needed, we'd probably be sitting arround a bonfire, our bodies draped in cowhide, eating crappy tasting fish we'd caught earlier in the day.

 

[BobDaMenkey]

I work in a board game store. It's a store that has a whole lot of sh!t that most haven't heard of. So how are you going to know if a game might tickle your fancy if you might not see it piled up on a shelf with 2 dozen other games you've never heard of if you're 'just looking' as everyone always is.

I like my job. I just hate a$$hole customers who don't respond back to my saying "Hello" to them when they walk into my store. If you don't want to be buged, I'll leave you the hell alone until you have a question, but I'll extend the offer first. I'm not here to shove crap down your throat that you want, I just want to let you know what we have, like a dozen games that came from different countries that are really cool, but few people know about.

 

[acemcmac]

always be closing

Glengarry Glen Ross

 

[Yossarian]

I think you've been participating in the salesmen's circle jerk too long if you believe the crap you're spewing.

 

[CrackRabbit]

My only sugestion to you is to learn your product, and learn it well. I can't stand a salesperson that is clueless on the product they are selling. The worst offenders work at Bestbuy, Fry's and car dealerships, in that order.

 

[acemcmac]

I have yet to meet a car dealer that says more than "uhhhhh" when I ask what a car's whitepaper top speed is :roll: :|

 

[Mo0o]

I've only met one salesman who flat out told me when something i was interested in was a piece of crap. "In all honesty this is not worth the money, it's overpriced and full of flaws." This was some guy at CompUSA and i was looking at a mp3 player.

 

[gabemcg]

Originally posted by: Mo0o
I've only met one salesman who flat out told me when something i was interested in was a piece of crap. "In all honesty this is not worth the money, it's overpriced and full of flaws." This was some guy at CompUSA and i was looking at a mp3 player.

let me guess, you bought a, "much better model"

 

[Lorn]

Congratulations.

 

[Ronstang]

You are simply an idiot trying to justify and rationalize you mediocrity.

 

[gabemcg]

Originally posted by: Ronstang
You are simply an idiot trying to justify and rationalize you mediocrity.

explination of said mediocrity?

 

[RaiderJ]

And all this time I've relied on research and self-education for my purchases when I should have just asked a Best Buy saleman! Goodbye Newegg!