The Ryzen "ThreadRipper"... 16 cores of awesome

[tamz_msc]

X399 motherboards have got improved VRM cooling since they were shown at Computex.

 

[moonbogg]

Can't understand that language. What's it say? I think it said something about AMD profiting off the X299 S**T storm.

 

[tamz_msc]

Can't understand that language. What's it say? I think it said something about AMD profiting off the X299 S**T storm.

Well you could have just clicked on the images - AsRock and Gigabyte boards now have heatpipes on the VRMs, Gigabyte has increased the surface area compared to what was shown at Computex.

MSI's board has stacked fins, might have compatibility issues with CPU coolers.

 

[formulav8]

So the classic "I'm out of arguments so I just do a personal attack".

Actually the classic, no need to complain over spilled milk. The socket, the chip, and surface area is huge on TR compared to any previous AMD dt setup.

 

[ddogg]

I really like that MSI Carbon board. It might have gone to the top of my list. The VRM cooling looks insane, not to mention swappable heatsink covers.

 

[Yakk]

Hmm... I really want a 10 Gb integrated ethernet port as part of the motherboard, deal breaker for me with the life expectancy I have for this upcoming build. Would really like to see more choices with it.

 

[ajc9988]

Hmm... I really want a 10 Gb integrated ethernet port as part of the motherboard, deal breaker for me with the life expectancy I have for this upcoming build. Would really like to see more choices with it.

Let's put this in perspective, do you need 10Gb in the next 3 years. If not, then you are wrong. By that time, we'll have DDR5 and PCIe 4.0, meaning you'd likely upgrade your board anyways if you wanted 10Gbps, something not found on X299 either. So, what's the issue?

Also, on choices, these are top end boards with few lines to put more at the top. If you are saying you want lower options, then why bring up 10Gbps. Have you even compared them to the counterparts?

 

[scannall]

Hmm... I really want a 10 Gb integrated ethernet port as part of the motherboard, deal breaker for me with the life expectancy I have for this upcoming build. Would really like to see more choices with it.

This one has the 10Gb ethernet. Asrock Fatal1ty X399.

 

[Yakk]

Let's put this in perspective, do you need 10Gb in the next 3 years. If not, then you are wrong. By that time, we'll have DDR5 and PCIe 4.0, meaning you'd likely upgrade your board anyways if you wanted 10Gbps, something not found on X299 either. So, what's the issue?

Also, on choices, these are top end boards with few lines to put more at the top. If you are saying you want lower options, then why bring up 10Gbps. Have you even compared them to the counterparts?

I do, amongst its new duties it'll run alongside my Synology DS1817+ box and the type of server work it'll do will have a lot of I/O. Being able to game on top of it is just the enthusiast in me

 

[ajc9988]

I do, amongst its new duties it'll run alongside my Synology DS1817+ box and the type of server work it'll do will have a lot of I/O. Being able to game on top of it is just the enthusiast in me

Fair enough. My network is still 1Gbps, so I'm just using a quad and doing port teaming for the moment.

But, some people will want it to future proof, so I wanted to make sure it was an actual need. Scannall pointed to a good board, so that may simplify your decision.

 

[dnavas]

Let's put this in perspective, do you need 10Gb in the next 3 years.

Yes!
Does it have to be built-in? No, but I can see the advantage of the cleanliness of it, particularly if it comes with a regular ethernet port as well (connect straight to NAS, keep the GB port connected to the switch). What I don't (strictly) need is a 10GBE switch. I'll be comparing prices with the cost of buying something like the AQN-107-104-SFA separately.

 

[estarkey7]

Where is a link to the AMD webinar?

 

[VirtualLarry]

This one has the 10Gb ethernet. Asrock Fatal1ty X399.

That looks really sweet. My next board? Might not be for a little while though, since I just got these several Ryzen 5 1600 rigs. Too soon to replace one of them, unless I can sell one for a profit.

 

[ajc9988]

Yes!
Does it have to be built-in? No, but I can see the advantage of the cleanliness of it, particularly if it comes with a regular ethernet port as well (connect straight to NAS, keep the GB port connected to the switch). What I don't (strictly) need is a 10GBE switch. I'll be comparing prices with the cost of buying something like the AQN-107-104-SFA separately.

Unless using a switch with at least one 10GBE port (then using VLAN to split the port as needed), a crossover between devices with 10GBE enabled, etc., why do it if you cannot utilize it?

 

[dnavas]

Unless using a switch with at least one 10GBE port (then using VLAN to split the port as needed), a crossover between devices with 10GBE enabled, etc., why do it if you cannot utilize it?

Not sure I understand your question. I don't need the switch as I can just connect the NAS to the editing machine. It might make things marginally simpler if the network was flat, but a switch is otherwise unnecessary -- assuming, of course, that each of the boxes in question also have 1gbe connections. I need the full bandwidth between two endpoints, I don't need it shared across multiple machines.

 

[ajc9988]

Not sure I understand your question. I don't need the switch as I can just connect the NAS to the editing machine. It might make things marginally simpler if the network was flat, but a switch is otherwise unnecessary -- assuming, of course, that each of the boxes in question also have 1gbe connections. I need the full bandwidth between two endpoints, I don't need it shared across multiple machines.

That is what I meant by crossover (using a crossover cable between two computers or devices in a direct connection). You know what you need, so it's all good!

 

[Yakk]

This one has the 10Gb ethernet. Asrock Fatal1ty X399.

It does look sweet! The Asus Zenith X399 uses a card to do 10 Gb, which looks like it'll come with the motherboard. Hmmm...

 

[Yakk]

Fair enough. My network is still 1Gbps, so I'm just using a quad and doing port teaming for the moment.

But, some people will want it to future proof, so I wanted to make sure it was an actual need. Scannall pointed to a good board, so that may simplify your decision.

Yeah I'm investigating going to a parallel type DAS & NAS setup on the 1817+ with the Threadripper attached directly via 10 Gb to avoid congestion & the rest of the network attached via it's 4x 1Gb ports.

 

[ddogg]

When is the threadripper NDA lifting? Is it tonight, 30th or on the 10th?

 

[ajc9988]

When is the threadripper NDA lifting? Is it tonight, 30th or on the 10th?

Likely siggraph. It may be on the 27th, as pre-orders for MBs and AW Area 51 machines supposedly start. So, very soon. But August 10th is sale. I'm just hoping for MB comparisons by then.

 

[ultimatebob]

I'm curious what Dell's Area 51 Threadripper systems are going to look like. Knowing them, they'll probably come standard with a pathetic 8 GB of RAM, a low end video card like a 3 GB GeForce 1060, and a 1TB 5400RPM hard drive. If you're going to put crap like that in the box, you might as well just get a Ryzen 5 instead.

By the time you "upgrade" to a proper amount of memory, a good video card, and an SSD in it it will probably cost $5,000.

 

[ddogg]

I'm curious what Dell's Area 51 Threadripper systems are going to look like. Knowing them, they'll probably come standard with a pathetic 8 GB of RAM, a low end video card like a 3 GB GeForce 1060, and a 1TB 5400RPM hard drive. If you're going to put crap like that in the box, you might as well just get a Ryzen 5 instead.

By the time you "upgrade" to a proper amount of memory, a good video card, and an SSD in it it will probably cost $5,000.

Hmm, not really actually. You can get them with a 1080Ti and 32GB RAM if you want. You will have to pay a pretty penny for it though.
Some details are here https://videocardz.com/71211/amd-ryzen-threadripper-systems-are-now-available

 

[dnavas]

Some details are here https://videocardz.com/71211/amd-ryzen-threadripper-systems-are-now-available

"Overclocked up to 3.6GHz on all cores" (on the Area51)
That doesn't seem like they're reaching that far.

 

[PeterScott]

Threadripper Delid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoVK6rJR5VE

There are 4 dies, not 2!

 

[Yakk]

Unlocking potential? I wonder...