The rights of "stupid" people ?

[tnitsuj]

Originally posted by: Sternfan

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: tnitsuj
I'll admit it..I am a snob and look down on those less educated/informed/whatever than me.

... and ...

Okay, in my book stupid = uninformed, uninterested, and complacent it doesn't really have anything to do with intelligence as such.

I assume, then, that it is OK with you if I look down upon you since you are obviously less educated than I am. First, only an ignorant person would equate "ignorant" with "stupid". They are completely different. Second, only an ignorant person says "I [ ... ] look down on those less educated... than me." This is grammatically incorrect. It should be "less (whatever) than I," as in "than I am[/u]."

Nice shot, maybe he will think before he talks again. Bow 1 tnitsuj 0

I bow low exposing my neck to you sir.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

1 solution, pass a law limiting TV watching to at most 1 hour a day, and build tons of libraries.

Here's a better law, ban everything on TV except for PBS, CSPAN, the Discovery and History channels and require TV's to be on everywhere 24/7.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Is something screwy going on with the forums? My replies don't show up after I submit, I refresh, it double-posts and still doesn't show, and the only way I can get to the updated thread is to go back out to the main forum and enter the thread again.

 

[KenGr]

I don't know if I agree with the basic premise of this thread. It seems to me that people have a whole lot more capability and common sense than most people give them credit for. Of course you can find all kinds of "examples" of stupidity but that's always been the case. It may play pretty well on the coasts to make fun of the WalMart worker and the NASCAR fan and to decry the fact that most people can't find Uzbekistan on a map. However, you might be surprised at how many of those guys can program a PLC, shim a pump or change the engine management chip on a Camaro. On the other hand, I would guess there are a lot of people with PhD's in history from Columbia that will never be much good to anyone.

I've got my advanced degrees but I'm usually more comfortable with down home people who actually get things done.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: tnitsuj

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: tnitsuj

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: tnitsuj
I'll admit it..I am a snob and look down on those less educated/informed/whatever than me.

Hey if you need to look down on others to make yourself feel adequate then more power to you.

No, it doesn't really make me feel better about myself. Its more that those people just annoy me intensly.

What is it you do that makes you so much better than those who you consider beneath you?

Read Books. Pick up the newspaper, try and look at things from other perspectives.


The people who don't do those things are usually the same ones who are glad we "kicked" Iraq's ass because they were involved in 9/11

Can we be glad that we kicked Iraq's ass without knowing whether or not it was involved in 9/11? Or does that make us stupid too? Or are the two mutually exclusive?

 

[mastertech01]

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Is something screwy going on with the forums? My replies don't show up after I submit, I refresh, it double-posts and still doesn't show, and the only way I can get to the updated thread is to go back out to the main forum and enter the thread again.

You can find a topic on that in forum issues. Zuni says its all our machines and we are the problem...

 

[tnitsuj]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: tnitsuj

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: tnitsuj

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: tnitsuj
I'll admit it..I am a snob and look down on those less educated/informed/whatever than me.

Hey if you need to look down on others to make yourself feel adequate then more power to you.

No, it doesn't really make me feel better about myself. Its more that those people just annoy me intensly.

What is it you do that makes you so much better than those who you consider beneath you?

Read Books. Pick up the newspaper, try and look at things from other perspectives.


The people who don't do those things are usually the same ones who are glad we "kicked" Iraq's ass because they were involved in 9/11

Can we be glad that we kicked Iraq's ass without knowing whether or not it was involved in 9/11? Or does that make us stupid too? Or are the two mutually exclusive?

Just saying I'm glad we kicked Iraqs ass comes off as pretty stupid IMHO.

 

[glenn1]

The rights of "stupid" people ?

If people can't make it in this society, do we abandon them, beat them harder to make them learn, or something else?

We found jobs for 535 of 'em in Congress, so we've only got a few million stupid people left to go.

 

[Witling]

KenGr. I think you misunderstood the theme of this thread or perhaps I should have made myself clearer. We live in a society that is economically valuing a fairly narrow set of human skills. I think of those skills as language and abstract idea manipulation. There is a large portion of the population that is not interested, capable, or both, of engaging in the types of work that our society increasingly does. My concern is can or should society be changed to give these people a chance at meaningful, or at least gainful, work? Right now, in many instances a person without a college degree can't even get interviewed for a job even though they would be quite capable of doing it. This tendency to reward knowledge workers and ignore other workers is distressing to me. There wasn't a lot of bitching when manufacturing jobs were leaving the U.S. but I see a lot of bitching now about service jobs leaving. And lastly, it wasn't me who characterized people who make jeans as stupid. That's the way it plays with me on this coast.