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RadiclDreamer

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Originally posted by: amdforever2
Nintendo stockholders should be furious. The morons running that company should be ousted by stockholder rage.


Profits and sales are going nowhere, and the companies leadership is busy with artistic experiments?

I used to feel sorry for Nintendo, now I hope Microsoft and Sony absolutely crush the company to punish them for being so retarded.

Innovations are for companies that can afford to take a risk. Nintendo is under the delusion it can afford another console bomb. With the PSP soon set to annihilate the gameboy and dominate the mobile market, Nintendo needs to make money in it's core business now.

These people rest on their 15 years of domination, they're in for a rude awakening when the money runs out, their reputation is in ruins, and they can't turn a profit in any market.

If Nintendo listened to it's fans instead of Miyamoto's artistic ramblings the company would be in far better shape. Microsoft could make billions if it had what Nintendo does. Nintendo is a poorly run company, plain and simple..


Delta Airlines enters bankruptcy, announces new plan to shoot people out of cannons instead of fly them around in airplanes.

Ford continues to be pummeled by import brands, announces plans to create cars that run on sunshine and happiness and are controlled by telepathy, not steering wheels.

Do you ever see that sh!t?



Nintendo stockholders should get out now or demand leadership focused on PROFIT, not sh!tty ideas of artistic expression.


wake up man, your beloved PS and Xbrick are LOSING F'ING MONEY, NINTENDO IS STILL MAKING MONEY!!!!!!!!!! whos the one with poor leadership?
 

ondarkness

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Originally posted by: her34
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex

Second, PSP's going to take over the mobile market? What are you smoking? DS still has the PSP outsold by a factor of 2 to 1 (Sales Figures. DS has better games, fewer gimmicks (overpriced UMD movies? What a joke! NOTHING to do with gaming!) and much MUCH more innovation.

try looking up worldwide sales figures

lol. try posting it.
 

purbeast0

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Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: Legend
Let's see how Sony has 50% of the handheld market, hmmm?

NPD Console Sales for August 2005:
PS2 = 253,000
XBX = 134,000
GCN = 53,000
GBA = 180,000
PSP = 167,000
NDS = 103,000

So, 180,000 + 103,000, 283,000 units, PSP, 167,000 units
thats 37%, not a far cry from half, but Nintendo still has the lead. And lets not forget, has Sony reported ANY profit from their computer entertainment division any time this year? NO

That's a very short sighted outlook.

Sony strategy will continue with PSP just as it did with PSone and PS2. They will gradually decrease the cost of hardware, lower the price, and software sales will increase. Historically this is how Sony has been successful in the video game industry.

I already explained how Sony's strategy works, and that technically Nintendo has more marketshare but a large part of that marketshare is going to die out soon. I'm focused on the future, not the past.

GBA will eventually die out. I remember how people were saying the original gameboy (color) would never die out. It did.

Sony came into the market as the new guy, and has already grabbed over half of the new handheld marketshare in current sales. They did this with a huge price tag. How well will Nintendo do when PSP goes down in price?

And in turn, the DS will get even lower in price, thus evening the playing field. I'm not much of a portable fan, but Ive had more fun playing the ds games Ive tried than the psp games.

I might be alone here, but the gamecube has been my favorite system of the last generation.

The xbox is a distant third, I honestly dont find most games for it to be all that fun. I use it more for XBMC than for playing games. Dont get me wrong, I would never, ever let my modded xbox go until xbmc comes out for the 360, but until then, bleh. Halo is fun and all, but at the end of the day, its a mediocre fps only fun cause its pretty much the only decent 4 player fps released in the past 5 years.

PS2 is great. Love it. Awesome games, unlike the xbox. But its almost exclusively single player.

Gamecube on the other hand is quite simply the most fun, because its the most social. They might not be the "coolest" games, but there really is no match for 4-player smash bros, wario ware, mario kart, mario tennis, monkey ball etc. They are all basically mario games, but at the end of the day, they were the games that had a bunch of us in a room having the greatest time. To me, before anything else, video games are supposed to be pure unadulterated fun. And nintendo has that hands down. The new controller is exactly that kind of the controller...the kind that will have everyone playing together, having a blast with a smile on their face, kiddie games or not. It will never really be a system for loners.

if you get xbox live, your opinion will change DRASTICALLY about xbox, heh trust me. i used to be JUST like you. i didnt play my xbox in probably 5-6 months except to try new games, and only used it for XBMC as well. then once i got xbox live, i haven't even touched my ps2 since then and i still play halo 2 almost daily on xbox live, and that game is almost a year old. there is no game i have EVER played this long after release (w/the exception of CS, but thats PC).
 

Legend

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And in turn, the DS will get even lower in price, thus evening the playing field. I'm not much of a portable fan, but Ive had more fun playing the ds games Ive tried than the psp games.

The problem with that idea is that DS can only lower by so much. PSP is $250, DS $130. I'd say the limit of DS would be around $80, based on the GBA prices and considering that DS has more retail on it making it more expensive to make. The price advantage will get smaller and smaller where it becomes insignificant.

What has fueld Nintendo's success in the past is the profits from their handhelds. If they're forced to reduce price, they'll see profits go down.

I'm not saying that Nintendo can't compete. I'm saying that they're source of income will very likely go down unless they do something about it.

I'd would think that a handheld generation would last 5 years, but I remember Nintendo saying earlier that DS is not succeeding GBA. That there's a GBA2 in development. That IMO, was a mistake on Sega proportions.


 

RadiclDreamer

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Aug 8, 2004
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Originally posted by: Legend
Let's see how Sony has 50% of the handheld market, hmmm?

NPD Console Sales for August 2005:
PS2 = 253,000
XBX = 134,000
GCN = 53,000
GBA = 180,000
PSP = 167,000
NDS = 103,000

So, 180,000 + 103,000, 283,000 units, PSP, 167,000 units
thats 37%, not a far cry from half, but Nintendo still has the lead. And lets not forget, has Sony reported ANY profit from their computer entertainment division any time this year? NO

That's a very short sighted outlook.

Sony strategy will continue with PSP just as it did with PSone and PS2. They will gradually decrease the cost of hardware, lower the price, and software sales will increase. Historically this is how Sony has been successful in the video game industry.

I already explained how Sony's strategy works, and that technically Nintendo has more marketshare but a large part of that marketshare is going to die out soon. I'm focused on the future, not the past.

GBA will eventually die out. I remember how people were saying the original gameboy (color) would never die out. It did.

Sony came into the market as the new guy, and has already grabbed over half of the new handheld marketshare in current sales. They did this with a huge price tag. How well will Nintendo do when PSP goes down in price?



Just remember, selling a console loses money for the company, they sell it below cost and then make up for it with games, its the same biz model that the printer companies have been using forever. Sell the printer cheap and then make the money on ink.

So the fact that a company sold xxx number of consoles doesnt mean anything, its the number of games people buy for the console that makes the difference. And if other places are like they are here most people buy the xbrick to mod it, hence they dont buy games. People buy the PS2 and 3-4 games and then the GC owners buy 10-15 games. Same for the GB line, they buy a GB and 10+ games. This is why nintendo continues to post a profit and Microsoft and Sony are losing money time and time again
 

Legend

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So the fact that a company sold xxx number of consoles doesnt mean anything, its the number of games people buy for the console that makes the difference. And if other places are like they are here most people buy the xbrick to mod it, hence they dont buy games. People buy the PS2 and 3-4 games and then the GC owners buy 10-15 games. Same for the GB line, they buy a GB and 10+ games. This is why nintendo continues to post a profit and Microsoft and Sony are losing money time and time again

Are people modding PSPs?

I think it does matter because Nintendo could lose marketshare in console userbase and effectively lose potential software customers.
 

RadiclDreamer

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Originally posted by: Legend
So the fact that a company sold xxx number of consoles doesnt mean anything, its the number of games people buy for the console that makes the difference. And if other places are like they are here most people buy the xbrick to mod it, hence they dont buy games. People buy the PS2 and 3-4 games and then the GC owners buy 10-15 games. Same for the GB line, they buy a GB and 10+ games. This is why nintendo continues to post a profit and Microsoft and Sony are losing money time and time again

Are people modding PSPs?

I think it does matter because Nintendo could lose marketshare in console userbase and effectively lose potential software customers.

Yes, I know only 2 people that bought the PSP (Piece of Sh!T Portable) and they both bought em to run.........nintendo roms on.
 

mdchesne

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wow... taking coach potatoes to the extreme! reminds me of my dad pretending to smack the umpire's head while watching baseball on ESPN with the remote
 

TGS

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Originally posted by: SNiPeRX
I believe revolution will be what the title says, and I will be purchasing one because I have never been disappointed yet by nintendo. my 2 cents.

I gave up on nintendo when they released that pig of a machine called N64. Golden Eye, Perfect Dark, Zelda. The rest was complete junk, IMO. When I saw people playing FF7, I knew that I was done with nintendo. I got sucked on the PS1 bandwagon, and played GTA until my CD melted into slag. That was a freaking fantastic system. PS2 I trailed off some, but it was still a nice system while it was getting use. Though I eventually trailed back into PC gaming from the PS2.
 

Sonikku

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As an American I take offense from Nintendo's initiative at change. Change frightens me, and I only want to see the same thing redone over and over again.
 

eelw

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Originally posted by: Sonikku
As an American I take offense from Nintendo's initiative at change. Change frightens me, and I only want to see the same thing redone over and over again.

Don't worry, we will most definitely see GTA8 and Halo 5 in this next generation of consoles.
 

ric1287

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Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
Originally posted by: ric1287
i enjoyed the title reference to common

Not only did that make no sense, but it also bumped an old thread. plz stfu

sorry for bumpin again, but you are an idiot, if you listened to music outside of (im guessing) "alternative punk rock" then you would know what that meant dumbass.