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NoStateofMind

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Originally posted by: LTC8K6
More likely they changed their mind when word leaked out, imo.

Actually its more likely that Fox (by way of Patrick Brendel) made the story from nothing to impact Ron Pauls book sales due to be released tomorrow. Another smear tactic and if anyone thinks Ron Pauls actions carry malice then you never took the time to know the man anyways. So point and whine all you want, all of us who gave him money, gave to the cause.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: LTC8K6
More likely they changed their mind when word leaked out, imo.

Actually its more likely that Fox (by way of Patrick Brendel) made story from nothing to impact Ron Pauls book sales do to be released tomorrow. Another smear tactic and if anyone thinks Ron Pauls actions carry malice then you never took the time to know the man anyways. So point and whine all you want, all of us who gave him money, gave to the cause.

His book is out now. Already received my copy. :D
 

HeXploiT

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Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: LTC8K6
More likely they changed their mind when word leaked out, imo.

Actually its more likely that Fox (by way of Patrick Brendel) made story from nothing to impact Ron Pauls book sales do to be released tomorrow. Another smear tactic and if anyone thinks Ron Pauls actions carry malice then you never took the time to know the man anyways. So point and whine all you want, all of us who gave him money, gave to the cause.

Yeah it turns out it was a BS article. I thought it might be an endeavor similar to the blimp but to create money for the base.
I believe it was not to interfere with Rons book sales but to steal the headline out of Nevada which have the GOP up in arms and breaking all the rules in order to keep Ron Paul out. My guess is that the ultimate goal is to rob Rob Paul of delegates and prevent him from speaking at the national convention..
 

jonks

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My friend who works at the ny fed told me there were 10 protestors outside last week yelling and asking where the "discount window for the public" was located lol.

Own up, which of you guys was there? Get a job ya bums!
 

HeXploiT

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Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Perry404
Yeah it turns out it was a BS article.
It does? Have any proof/links at all to back that statement up?

No I don't. Terribly sorry I couldn't make a believer out of you.
Anyway I trust Ron Paul to spend my money as he sees fit.
 

LegendKiller

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Originally posted by: Perry404
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Perry404
Yeah it turns out it was a BS article.
It does? Have any proof/links at all to back that statement up?

No I don't. terribly sorry I couldn't make a believer out of you.

I wish it took more than BS statements, junk science, intellectually bankrupt math and logic, and complete FUD to make people believers.

Too bad people like you, RP, and many others depend on those factors to get "believers".

Your attempts throughout this whole thread have been laced with hilarious idiocy and immensely sad ignorance. It's pathetic that there's more than one "believer".

There's no accounting for intelligence these days.
 

HeXploiT

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Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: Perry404
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Perry404
Yeah it turns out it was a BS article.
It does? Have any proof/links at all to back that statement up?

No I don't. terribly sorry I couldn't make a believer out of you.

I wish it took more than BS statements, junk science, intellectually bankrupt math and logic, and complete FUD to make people believers.

Too bad people like you, RP, and many others depend on those factors to get "believers".

Your attempts throughout this whole thread have been laced with hilarious idiocy and immensely sad ignorance. It's pathetic that there's more than one "believer".

There's no accounting for intelligence these days.

Thanks for the continued bumps. :)
 

Lemon law

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The real question is and remains, where does the Ron Paul Movement go from here? In the case of Ross Perot, he was able to build a political party and get on the ballot in 1992.
The same party existed in 1996 and also flopped. By 2000, the party vanished when Pat Bucanan hijacked it with ideas that no longer remotely resembled the original ideas.

The point being, Ron Paul has built a small movement but its not enough to build a third party with, Ron Paul is too old now, and he will be way way too old in 2012. Face the facts,
you Paul bots have to come up with a younger more dynamic advocate and start electing a slate of candidates for congress also if you want to stay viable.
 

palehorse

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Originally posted by: Perry404
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Perry404
Yeah it turns out it was a BS article.
It does? Have any proof/links at all to back that statement up?

No I don't. Terribly sorry I couldn't make a believer out of you.
Anyway I trust Ron Paul to spend my money as he sees fit.

In other words, just as it was with RP's "very strong" military support, you made it up.

got it. :roll:
 

LegendKiller

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Originally posted by: Perry404
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: Perry404
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Perry404
Yeah it turns out it was a BS article.
It does? Have any proof/links at all to back that statement up?

No I don't. terribly sorry I couldn't make a believer out of you.

I wish it took more than BS statements, junk science, intellectually bankrupt math and logic, and complete FUD to make people believers.

Too bad people like you, RP, and many others depend on those factors to get "believers".

Your attempts throughout this whole thread have been laced with hilarious idiocy and immensely sad ignorance. It's pathetic that there's more than one "believer".

There's no accounting for intelligence these days.

Thanks for the continued bumps. :)

anything I can do to prove you guys are buffoons is great by me. I think that PH and I have shown that repeatedly in this thread. Your continued bumps only advertise your foolish position, to your detriment, not enhancement.
 

HeXploiT

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
The real question is and remains, where does the Ron Paul Movement go from here? In the case of Ross Perot, he was able to build a political party and get on the ballot in 1992.
The same party existed in 1996 and also flopped. By 2000, the party vanished when Pat Bucanan hijacked it with ideas that no longer remotely resembled the original ideas.

The point being, Ron Paul has built a small movement but its not enough to build a third party with, Ron Paul is too old now, and he will be way way too old in 2012. Face the facts,
you Paul bots have to come up with a younger more dynamic advocate and start electing a slate of candidates for congress also if you want to stay viable.

That's a very good argument. Men with character, knowledge and wisdom don't come along very often. Ron Paul is a rare breed. I will hold out hope for Ron Paul in the coming four years and If he's running from a wheelchair in 2011 I'll support him although the man still runs and rides bikes at 5:00am so I think he is not as bad off as "73" may seem. I personally do not currently see anyone who is able to replace the man. So the odds are long, and they always were, but we went from almost nothing a year ago to a good little chuck of the population in one year. We'll see what happens in 2011 when we begin with hundreds of thousands of dedicated volunteers.
In the meantime we will work to replace the republican base with more moderate thinkers and smaller government types.
By the way from now on we desire to be called Ron Paul Zombies.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: Perry404
Originally posted by: Lemon law
The real question is and remains, where does the Ron Paul Movement go from here? In the case of Ross Perot, he was able to build a political party and get on the ballot in 1992.
The same party existed in 1996 and also flopped. By 2000, the party vanished when Pat Bucanan hijacked it with ideas that no longer remotely resembled the original ideas.

The point being, Ron Paul has built a small movement but its not enough to build a third party with, Ron Paul is too old now, and he will be way way too old in 2012. Face the facts,
you Paul bots have to come up with a younger more dynamic advocate and start electing a slate of candidates for congress also if you want to stay viable.

That's a very good argument. Men with character, knowledge and wisdom don't come along very often. Ron Paul is a rare breed. I will hold out hope for Ron Paul in the coming four years and If he's running from a wheelchair in 2011 I'll support him although the man still runs and rides bikes at 5:00am so I think he is not as bad off as "73" may seem. I personally do not currently see anyone who is able to replace the man. So the odds are long, and they always were, but we went from almost nothing a year ago to a good little chuck of the population in one year. We'll see what happens in 2011 when we begin with hundreds of thousands of dedicated volunteers.
In the meantime we will work to replace the republican base with more moderate thinkers and smaller government types.
By the way from now on we desire to be called Ron Paul Zombies.


If and when more people start supporting Libertarian ideals, the two parties will do one of two things. Either they will start to bend in their ways, trying to cater to their then-lost constituents, or they will fire back to the general public as they somewhat have done during Paul's campaign. Biased stories, even bullshit news reports. Hell, as I predicted, they've already referred to Paul's supporters as terrorists. They will say that that these newfound Libertarians are trying to disrupt the democratic and/or political process. They'll fight it hard. And the real test will begin.

Just as there may be new supporters, there will be just as many new enemies. When Paul speaks, just as there are those who listen joyfully, there are those who fear his words. Those like Palehorse, who promote US military interventions overseas, the US policing of the world, and imperialism, and those like Legendkiller, who are employed in the financial industry who would like to "stay the course," who don't mind the Fed printing the money and bailing out the corporations when they fuck up.
 

HeXploiT

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Jun 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Perry404
Originally posted by: Lemon law
The real question is and remains, where does the Ron Paul Movement go from here? In the case of Ross Perot, he was able to build a political party and get on the ballot in 1992.
The same party existed in 1996 and also flopped. By 2000, the party vanished when Pat Bucanan hijacked it with ideas that no longer remotely resembled the original ideas.

The point being, Ron Paul has built a small movement but its not enough to build a third party with, Ron Paul is too old now, and he will be way way too old in 2012. Face the facts,
you Paul bots have to come up with a younger more dynamic advocate and start electing a slate of candidates for congress also if you want to stay viable.

That's a very good argument. Men with character, knowledge and wisdom don't come along very often. Ron Paul is a rare breed. I will hold out hope for Ron Paul in the coming four years and If he's running from a wheelchair in 2011 I'll support him although the man still runs and rides bikes at 5:00am so I think he is not as bad off as "73" may seem. I personally do not currently see anyone who is able to replace the man. So the odds are long, and they always were, but we went from almost nothing a year ago to a good little chuck of the population in one year. We'll see what happens in 2011 when we begin with hundreds of thousands of dedicated volunteers.
In the meantime we will work to replace the republican base with more moderate thinkers and smaller government types.
By the way from now on we desire to be called Ron Paul Zombies.


If and when more people start supporting Libertarian ideals, the two parties will do one of two things. Either they will start to bend in their ways, trying to cater to their then-lost constituents, or they will fire back to the general public as they somewhat have done during Paul's campaign. Biased stories, even bullshit news reports. Hell, as I predicted, they've already referred to Paul's supporters as terrorists. They will say that that these newfound Libertarians are trying to disrupt the democratic and/or political process. They'll fight it hard. And the real test will begin.

Just as there may be new supporters, there will be just as many new enemies. When Paul speaks, just as there are those who listen joyfully, there are those who fear his words. Those like Palehorse, who promote US military interventions overseas, the US policing of the world, and imperialism, and those like Legendkiller, who are employed in the financial industry who would like to "stay the course," who don't mind the Fed printing the money and bailing out the corporations when they fuck up.

On the "terrorist" note, Isn't it interesting that Paul is just this incredibly mild-mannered and gentle human being and yet he is viewed by so many as a dangerous radical? Even though I was formerly a borderline neo-con type I still can't seem to reconcile how people see him this way.
Misinformation and close-mindedness have the tendency to kill rational.
Also I think fear plays a part here.
As Thomas Jefferson once said, those who know nothing are closer to the truth than those whos heads are filled with deception and lies.
 

LTC8K6

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I don't see RP as dangerous. Loony maybe, but not dangerous. He says a lot of things that make sense to me. I would never want him in any position of power, though.

The biggest problem I have with RP are his foreign policy ideas.

As for him being a leader, I never did see it. I can't stand Obama, and I think Obama has far more leadership skills than Paul.

The main reason I am not worried about Paul is that he isn't going to get any power or any influence, despite what his followers believe.

As I said a while ago, Paul is self defeating as far as I can see.

As soon as he gets any traction, he gets examined more closely, and that examination kills him.

Every time.

He has his little spot in Texas, and that's all he'll ever have.

 

HeXploiT

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Originally posted by: LTC8K6
I don't see RP as dangerous. Loony maybe, but not dangerous. He says a lot of things that make sense to me. I would never want him in any position of power, though.

The biggest problem I have with RP are his foreign policy ideas.

As for him being a leader, I never did see it. I can't stand Obama, and I think Obama has far more leadership skills than Paul.

The main reason I am not worried about Paul is that he isn't going to get any power or any influence, despite what his followers believe.

As I said a while ago, Paul is self defeating as far as I can see.

As soon as he gets any traction, he gets examined more closely, and that examination kills him.

Every time.

He has his little spot in Texas, and that's all he'll ever have.

From LewRockwell.com

Writes Vijay Rajwani: "Some frontline information on Dr. Paul?s book signing today in NYC: I asked for a long lunch break to go see him ? I arrived at 1:25 pm, to find that the top floor of Borders on Wall St. was engulfed in lines going in every direction! It was previous to this that Borders had RUN OUT of books! (the event was scheduled for 1pm). At the rate the line was going, it would have taken me 2 or 3 hours to get to see him ? and people were still packing in, so I had to leave to get back to work. I?m disappointed I didn?t get to see him, but glad at how much support there was ? so much so that Borders was not ready for it!"

Uh-huh. :D
 

LegendKiller

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Originally posted by: bamacre
Legendkiller, who are employed in the financial industry who would like to "stay the course," who don't mind the Fed printing the money and bailing out the corporations when they fuck up.

I'd like to thank you for telling me what I think.

 

Sinsear

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Originally posted by: LTC8K6

The main reason I am not worried about Paul is that he isn't going to get any power or any influence, despite what his followers believe.


QFT

 

NoStateofMind

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Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: bamacre
Legendkiller, who are employed in the financial industry who would like to "stay the course," who don't mind the Fed printing the money and bailing out the corporations when they fuck up.

I'd like to thank you for telling me what I think.

Your post history on these subjects seems to suggest Bamacre knows you better than you know yourself. Please enlighten us in your differences.
 

LegendKiller

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Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: bamacre
Legendkiller, who are employed in the financial industry who would like to "stay the course," who don't mind the Fed printing the money and bailing out the corporations when they fuck up.

I'd like to thank you for telling me what I think.

Your post history on these subjects seems to suggest Bamacre knows you better than you know yourself. Please enlighten us in your differences.

What's the point? You guys love to categorize people regardless of proof. Obviously his conclusions are wrong, but ignorance breeds regardless of truth. Your post only highlights this fact.
 
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Originally posted by: Perry404
From LewRockwell.com

Writes Vijay Rajwani: "Some frontline information on Dr. Paul?s book signing today in NYC: I asked for a long lunch break to go see him ? I arrived at 1:25 pm, to find that the top floor of Borders on Wall St. was engulfed in lines going in every direction! It was previous to this that Borders had RUN OUT of books! (the event was scheduled for 1pm). At the rate the line was going, it would have taken me 2 or 3 hours to get to see him ? and people were still packing in, so I had to leave to get back to work. I?m disappointed I didn?t get to see him, but glad at how much support there was ? so much so that Borders was not ready for it!"

Uh-huh. :D
Wow. He filled an entire Borders? Clearly that demonstrates that he has massive support among the American public.

:confused:

I'd bet Britney Spears could fill a Borders in NYC despite her obvious looniness too.
 

LegendKiller

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Perry404
From LewRockwell.com

Writes Vijay Rajwani: "Some frontline information on Dr. Paul?s book signing today in NYC: I asked for a long lunch break to go see him ? I arrived at 1:25 pm, to find that the top floor of Borders on Wall St. was engulfed in lines going in every direction! It was previous to this that Borders had RUN OUT of books! (the event was scheduled for 1pm). At the rate the line was going, it would have taken me 2 or 3 hours to get to see him ? and people were still packing in, so I had to leave to get back to work. I?m disappointed I didn?t get to see him, but glad at how much support there was ? so much so that Borders was not ready for it!"

Uh-huh. :D
Wow. He filled an entire Borders? Clearly that demonstrates that he has massive support among the American public.

:confused:

I'd bet Britney Spears could fill a Borders in NYC despite her obvious looniness too.

If it's the borders off of wall, it isn't even that big. I could probably fill it myself if I brought my rolodex of peeps.
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: LTC8K6
He has his little spot in Texas, and that's all he'll ever have.

A little spot in Texas? The people of this nation will get tired of our governing class regardless of however much you want to foster an unrepresentative and hostile central government. Paul isn't the solution to the problem, he is merely a man speaking the message that all men should be speaking.

If what he said does not appeal to you, then the socialist/neocon parties should. As the left and right merge to create larger government we will continue to better organize and I assure you it won't be a "little spot in Texas".