The revolution continues...

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
But, of course, you support the troops, don't you? :roll:

Like Paul, I support the troops. I support their desire to come home, and soon.

So you only support the 4-5% of our troops who supposedly support RP?

😀

Every soldier wants to come home from his/her tour... that's not news.

But, most also agree that the U.S. needs to stay and do everything possible to fix what we've broken over there, so as not to make 4000+ deaths of our closest friends entirely pointless.

The only way to shit on the deaths of those 4000+ heroes would be to allow Iraq to descend into total chaos, which is guaranteed to happen following an immediate and total withdrawal.

THAT is RP's "plan"? Fuck that, and fuck RP.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
But, of course, you support the troops, don't you? :roll:

Like Paul, I support the troops. I support their desire to come home, and soon.

So you only support the 4-5% of our troops who supposedly support RP?

😀

Every soldier wants to come home from his/her tour... that's not news.

But, most also agree that the U.S. needs to stay and do everything possible to fix what we've broken over there, so as not to make 4000+ deaths of our closest friends entirely pointless.

The only way to shit on the deaths of those 4000+ heroes would be to allow Iraq to descend into total chaos, which is guaranteed to happen following an immediate and total withdrawal.

THAT is RP's "plan"? Fuck that, and fuck RP.

That conflicts with the fact that Paul and Obama got more $$ from military than all the other candidates combined. Sorry, you're just wrong. Might as well face the facts, even though they conflict with your personal feelings.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
But, of course, you support the troops, don't you? :roll:

Like Paul, I support the troops. I support their desire to come home, and soon.

So you only support the 4-5% of our troops who supposedly support RP?

😀

Every soldier wants to come home from his/her tour... that's not news.

But, most also agree that the U.S. needs to stay and do everything possible to fix what we've broken over there, so as not to make 4000+ deaths of our closest friends entirely pointless.

The only way to shit on the deaths of those 4000+ heroes would be to allow Iraq to descend into total chaos, which is guaranteed to happen following an immediate and total withdrawal.

THAT is RP's "plan"? Fuck that, and fuck RP.

That conflicts with the fact that Paul and Obama got more $$ from military than all the other candidates combined. Sorry, you're just wrong. Might as well face the facts, even though they conflict with your personal feelings.

Are you honestly attempting to equate the money he brought in with his internet-driven fund raising to any actual percentage of support within the military?

Please, share this newfound "fact" with me. What supposed percentage of our military supports RP?

It's always funny to see you clowns twist RP's ridiculously low numbers in your favor, so this should be good!

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
But, of course, you support the troops, don't you? :roll:

Like Paul, I support the troops. I support their desire to come home, and soon.

So you only support the 4-5% of our troops who supposedly support RP?

😀

Every soldier wants to come home from his/her tour... that's not news.

But, most also agree that the U.S. needs to stay and do everything possible to fix what we've broken over there, so as not to make 4000+ deaths of our closest friends entirely pointless.

The only way to shit on the deaths of those 4000+ heroes would be to allow Iraq to descend into total chaos, which is guaranteed to happen following an immediate and total withdrawal.

THAT is RP's "plan"? Fuck that, and fuck RP.

That conflicts with the fact that Paul and Obama got more $$ from military than all the other candidates combined. Sorry, you're just wrong. Might as well face the facts, even though they conflict with your personal feelings.

Are you honestly attempting to equate the money he brought in with his internet-driven fund raising to any actual percentage of support within the military?

Please, share this newfound "fact" with me. What supposed percentage of our military supports RP?

It's always funny to see you clowns twist RP's ridiculously low numbers in your favor, so this should be good!

It's pretty easy, PH, for someone who won't let personal feelings get in the way of facts.

You simply add up the military dollar numbers that all the candidates brought in.

Then when you have the totals, you look and see which ones brought in more.

I know, it's math, it may be hard.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: palehorse74
Are you honestly attempting to equate the money he brought in with his internet-driven fund raising to any actual percentage of support within the military?

Please, share this newfound "fact" with me. What supposed percentage of our military supports RP?

It's always funny to see you clowns twist RP's ridiculously low numbers in your favor, so this should be good!

It's pretty easy, PH, for someone who won't let personal feelings get in the way of facts.

You simply add up the military dollar numbers that all the candidates brought in.

Then when you have the totals, you look and see which ones brought in more.

I know, it's math, it may be hard.

I didn't ask you who received the most money.

So, once again, without avoiding the question this time...

WHAT PERCENTAGE OF OUR MILITARY ARE YOU CLAIMING SUPPORTS RP?

 

[HeXploiT]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
But, of course, you support the troops, don't you? :roll:

Like Paul, I support the troops. I support their desire to come home, and soon.

So you only support the 4-5% of our troops who supposedly support RP?

😀

Every soldier wants to come home from his/her tour... that's not news.

But, most also agree that the U.S. needs to stay and do everything possible to fix what we've broken over there, so as not to make 4000+ deaths of our closest friends entirely pointless.

The only way to shit on the deaths of those 4000+ heroes would be to allow Iraq to descend into total chaos, which is guaranteed to happen following an immediate and total withdrawal.

THAT is RP's "plan"? Fuck that, and fuck RP.

That conflicts with the fact that Paul and Obama got more $$ from military than all the other candidates combined. Sorry, you're just wrong. Might as well face the facts, even though they conflict with your personal feelings.

Are you honestly attempting to equate the money he brought in with his internet-driven fund raising to any actual percentage of support within the military?

Please, share this newfound "fact" with me. What supposed percentage of our military supports RP?

It's always funny to see you clowns twist RP's ridiculously low numbers in your favor, so this should be good!

Just one of the few times it was mentioned on the mainstream networks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nwZGRrqhfs

Ron Paul received more donations from military all through 2007 and early into this year. It's a fact.

http://www.militaryforpaul.com/donations.html

 

[HeXploiT]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: palehorse74
Are you honestly attempting to equate the money he brought in with his internet-driven fund raising to any actual percentage of support within the military?

Please, share this newfound "fact" with me. What supposed percentage of our military supports RP?

It's always funny to see you clowns twist RP's ridiculously low numbers in your favor, so this should be good!

It's pretty easy, PH, for someone who won't let personal feelings get in the way of facts.

You simply add up the military dollar numbers that all the candidates brought in.

Then when you have the totals, you look and see which ones brought in more.

I know, it's math, it may be hard.

I didn't ask you who received the most money.

So, once again, without avoiding the question this time...

WHAT PERCENTAGE OF OUR MILITARY ARE YOU CLAIMING SUPPORTS RP?

Tame your ignorance. The only way to track support is through donations since we don't keep a tally on military votes.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: palehorse74
Are you honestly attempting to equate the money he brought in with his internet-driven fund raising to any actual percentage of support within the military?

Please, share this newfound "fact" with me. What supposed percentage of our military supports RP?

It's always funny to see you clowns twist RP's ridiculously low numbers in your favor, so this should be good!

It's pretty easy, PH, for someone who won't let personal feelings get in the way of facts.

You simply add up the military dollar numbers that all the candidates brought in.

Then when you have the totals, you look and see which ones brought in more.

I know, it's math, it may be hard.

I didn't ask you who received the most money.

So, once again, without avoiding the question this time...

WHAT PERCENTAGE OF OUR MILITARY ARE YOU CLAIMING SUPPORTS RP?

Tame your ignorance. The only way to track support is through donations since we don't keep a tally on military votes.

Exactly.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
But, of course, you support the troops, don't you? :roll:

Like Paul, I support the troops. I support their desire to come home, and soon.

If you love this land of the free
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
Bring them back from overseas
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home

It will make the politicians sad, I know
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
They wanna tangle with their foe
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home

They wanna test their grand theories
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
With the blood of you and me
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home

Now we'll give no more brave young lives
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
For the gleam in someone's eyes
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home

(Hooo-hooo hooo-hooo)
(Hooo-hooo hooo-hooo)

The men will cheer and the boys will shout
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
Yeah and we will all turn out
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home

The church bells will ring with joy
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
To welcome our darlin' girls and boys
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home

We willl lift their voice and sound
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
Yeah, when Johnny comes marching home
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home

Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
Bring them back from overseas
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home

If you love this land of the free
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
Bring them back from overseas
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home

Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home

 

[bamacre]

:thumbsup: Vic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yApAg0hl490

 

[HeXploiT]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
But, of course, you support the troops, don't you? :roll:

Like Paul, I support the troops. I support their desire to come home, and soon.

If you love this land of the free
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
Bring them back from overseas
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home

It will make the politicians sad, I know
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
They wanna tangle with their foe
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home

They wanna test their grand theories
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
With the blood of you and me
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home

Now we'll give no more brave young lives
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
For the gleam in someone's eyes
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home

(Hooo-hooo hooo-hooo)
(Hooo-hooo hooo-hooo)

The men will cheer and the boys will shout
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
Yeah and we will all turn out
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home

The church bells will ring with joy
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
To welcome our darlin' girls and boys
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home

We willl lift their voice and sound
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
Yeah, when Johnny comes marching home
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home

Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
Bring them back from overseas
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home

If you love this land of the free
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
Bring them back from overseas
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home

Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home

Save our most valuable resource for defending our nation.
In Iraq we are squandering them to defend what?

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Perry404
Save our most valuable resource for defending our nation.
In Iraq we are squandering them to defend what?

The House of Saud.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: palehorse74
I didn't ask you who received the most money.

So, once again, without avoiding the question this time...

WHAT PERCENTAGE OF OUR MILITARY ARE YOU CLAIMING SUPPORTS RP?

Tame your ignorance. The only way to track support is through donations since we don't keep a tally on military votes.

Exactly.

It is my contention that those donations do not translate to any sizable support within the military -- in terms of percentage.

In essence, the only thing you can say is this: Of the already small percentage of troops who actively contribute to political campaigns, most of them contributed to RP.

In other words, there is NO reason to believe, or logical support to conclude, that RP has a sizable percentage of support within the military as a whole.

You guys can circle-jerk all day long over the donations, but I've still not met a single fellow soldier who openly supports Ron Paul -- not one!

It's actually funny that you would use the donation figures to denote any type of widespread support within the military as a whole... it reminds me of the online polls you guys used to embrace in the same way.

How accurate were those again? fuzzy math FTL... :roll:

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: palehorse74
It is my contention that those donations do not translate to any sizable support within the military -- in terms of percentage.

In essence, the only thing you can say is this: Of the already small percentage of troops who actively contribute to political campaigns, most of them contributed to RP.

In other words, there is NO reason to believe, or logical support to conclude, that RP has a sizable percentage of support within the military as a whole.

You guys can circle-jerk all day long over the donations, but I've still not met a single fellow soldier who openly supports Ron Paul -- not one!

It's actually funny that you would use the donation figures to denote any type of widespread support within the military as a whole... it reminds me of the online polls you guys used to embrace in the same way.

How accurate were those again? :roll:

I'm sorry your "contention" gets in the way with facts.

And it isn't just Paul. Obama got more military donations as well.

I mean, how difficult is this for you to understand? Are you just refusing to allow facts to interfere with your personal beliefs?

This is little different from those who still believe the world is flat.

Not one, but the TWO candidates who want to bring the troops home as soon as possible, received, by far, the most money from military.

In fact, those two brought in more donations from military than ALL other candidates combined.

Again, I am sorry the facts conflict with your personal feelings, but the world isn't flat, and the troops want to come home.

Support the troops. Bring them home, back to their families, back to their friends, back where they belong. Defending this country, doing what they bravely signed up to do.

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: palehorse74
I didn't ask you who received the most money.

So, once again, without avoiding the question this time...

WHAT PERCENTAGE OF OUR MILITARY ARE YOU CLAIMING SUPPORTS RP?

Tame your ignorance. The only way to track support is through donations since we don't keep a tally on military votes.

Exactly.

It is my contention that those donations do not translate to any sizable support within the military -- in terms of percentage.

In essence, the only thing you can say is this: Of the already small percentage of troops who actively contribute to political campaigns, most of them contributed to RP.

In other words, there is NO reason to believe, or logical support to conclude, that RP has a sizable percentage of support within the military as a whole.

You guys can circle-jerk all day long over the donations, but I've still not met a single fellow soldier who openly supports Ron Paul -- not one!

It's actually funny that you would use the donation figures to denote any type of widespread support within the military as a whole... it reminds me of the online polls you guys used to embrace in the same way.

How accurate were those again? :roll:

This is the problem that they commonly run into. Extrapolation of dollar amounts into actual support doesn't make any sense. It's intellectually bankrupt.

If 1 person gives Ron Paul 10 dollars but 10 people give Obama 1 dollar, who actually has representational votes?

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: palehorse74
It is my contention that those donations do not translate to any sizable support within the military -- in terms of percentage.

In essence, the only thing you can say is this: Of the already small percentage of troops who actively contribute to political campaigns, most of them contributed to RP.

In other words, there is NO reason to believe, or logical support to conclude, that RP has a sizable percentage of support within the military as a whole.

You guys can circle-jerk all day long over the donations, but I've still not met a single fellow soldier who openly supports Ron Paul -- not one!

It's actually funny that you would use the donation figures to denote any type of widespread support within the military as a whole... it reminds me of the online polls you guys used to embrace in the same way.

How accurate were those again? :roll:

I'm sorry your "contention" gets in the way with facts.

And it isn't just Paul. Obama got more military donations as well.

I mean, how difficult is this for you to understand? Are you just refusing to allow facts to interfere with your personal beliefs?

This is little different from those who still believe the world is flat.

Not one, but the TWO candidates who want to bring the troops home as soon as possible, received, by far, the most money from military.

In fact, those two brought in more donations from military than ALL other candidates combined.

Again, I am sorry the facts conflict with your personal feelings, but the world isn't flat, and the troops want to come home.

Support the troops. Bring them home, back to their families, back to their friends, back where they belong. Defending this country, doing what they bravely signed up to do.

you still don't get it. As LK said, you are incorrectly extrapolating "facts" from the donation amounts that can't/don't/won't add up.

As I said above: In essence, the only thing you can accurately claim is this: Of the already small percentage of troops who actively contribute to political campaigns, most of them contributed to RP.

That's the only "fact" you have to work with, and it doesn't really mean a damn thing in terms of overall RP support within the military.

Your fuzzy math is a joke Laruso!

 

[HeXploiT]

Originally posted by: palehorse74


It is my contention that those donations do not translate to any sizable support within the military -- in terms of percentage.

In essence, the only thing you can say is this: Of the already small percentage of troops who actively contribute to political campaigns, most of them contributed to RP.

In other words, there is NO reason to believe, or logical support to conclude, that RP has a sizable percentage of support within the military as a whole.

You guys can circle-jerk all day long over the donations, but I've still not met a single fellow soldier who openly supports Ron Paul -- not one!

It's actually funny that you would use the donation figures to denote any type of widespread support within the military as a whole... it reminds me of the online polls you guys used to embrace in the same way.

How accurate were those again? fuzzy math FTL... :roll:

Your contention. HA!
How about at least giving us some statistics as we have done.

 

[LTC8K6]

IIRC, Obama gets more military donations than Paul by quite a bit.

 

[HeXploiT]

Hey look at this. Ron Paul has a meetup group in Iraq. Baghdad http://ronpaul.meetup.com/690/
Hmmm...I wonder if any of the other candidates do?

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: palehorse74
It is my contention that those donations do not translate to any sizable support within the military -- in terms of percentage.

In essence, the only thing you can say is this: Of the already small percentage of troops who actively contribute to political campaigns, most of them contributed to RP.

In other words, there is NO reason to believe, or logical support to conclude, that RP has a sizable percentage of support within the military as a whole.

You guys can circle-jerk all day long over the donations, but I've still not met a single fellow soldier who openly supports Ron Paul -- not one!

It's actually funny that you would use the donation figures to denote any type of widespread support within the military as a whole... it reminds me of the online polls you guys used to embrace in the same way.

How accurate were those again? :roll:

I'm sorry your "contention" gets in the way with facts.

And it isn't just Paul. Obama got more military donations as well.

I mean, how difficult is this for you to understand? Are you just refusing to allow facts to interfere with your personal beliefs?

This is little different from those who still believe the world is flat.

Not one, but the TWO candidates who want to bring the troops home as soon as possible, received, by far, the most money from military.

In fact, those two brought in more donations from military than ALL other candidates combined.

Again, I am sorry the facts conflict with your personal feelings, but the world isn't flat, and the troops want to come home.

Support the troops. Bring them home, back to their families, back to their friends, back where they belong. Defending this country, doing what they bravely signed up to do.

We must be looking at different charts.

The one I see shows Paul getting about $40K or 40% (add all the other Repub candidates amounts together, they total closer to $60 vs his $40K)

Given there are over 1 million active troops, seems kinda hard to draw any conclusion of overwhelming military support for any one candidate based these amounts. Even at a dollar a piece political contribution, that's less than 4%

Fern

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: Perry404

Your contention. HA!
How about at least giving us some statistics as we have done.

You haven't given any real numbers that a statistician would see as significant. You've given a dollar figure and extrapolated that to mean *real* support, when, in fact, it means nothing at all.

How about you back up your assertion with something other than bullshit.

 

[LTC8K6]

"Members: 38 "

Wow 38 soldiers! That's all that want to come home?

 

[HeXploiT]

Originally posted by: LTC8K6
IIRC, Obama gets more military donations than Paul by quite a bit.

Paul led Obama all through last year up until super Tuesday of this year when McCain all but wrapped up the nomination. Paul is, for all intents and purposes, out of the running for the 2008 presidency so obviously Obama will take over as the leader although he will not bring our people home any time soon and continues to vote in favor of the war.

 

[LTC8K6]

http://ronpaul.meetup.com/690/members/

Hmmm.... not even 38 soldiers...

 

[Capt Caveman]

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