The Red Wave is about to make landfall in (D) territory of Illinois

[PJABBER]

Frankly, I don't see how the GOP can avoid this. I mean, seriously. There aren't too many frontrunners who give much sign of being non-morons.

I just heard that the reason the feds are not moving quickly to contain the oil spill that is moving toward your coast line is that Governor Jindal is a potential Presidential candidate for the Republicans.

I heard a lot of complaints that Bush "just" did a flyover the Katrina disaster and that the feds did not move quickly enough to contain the effects of that disaster. Weren't the government and Bush mocked incessantly for their "ineffectiveness" in this forum?

Now we have a massive environmental and economic disaster looming in the Gulf. Obama has refused to go to the scene. And where is the federal response beyond worthless speeches by clowns like Neapolitano?

This should be the the highest domestic priority for the feds and should include the mobilization of all required assets. Instead, Obama and the Democrats are sitting in DC and wringing their hands. This will also be reflected in the poll results come November.

 

[Rangoric]

That's right Obama should be there to magically clean up the oil with his oil eliminating gaze.

 

[shira]

I just heard that the reason the feds are not moving quickly to contain the oil spill that is moving toward your coast line is that Governor Jindal is a potential Presidential candidate for the Republicans.

I heard a lot of complaints that Bush "just" did a flyover the Katrina disaster and that the feds did not move quickly enough to contain the effects of that disaster. Weren't the government and Bush mocked incessantly for their "ineffectiveness" in this forum?

Now we have a massive environmental and economic disaster looming in the Gulf. Obama has refused to go to the scene. And where is the federal response beyond worthless speeches by clowns like Neapolitano?

This should be the the highest domestic priority for the feds and should include the mobilization of all required assets. Instead, Obama and the Democrats are sitting in DC and wringing their hands. This will also be reflected in the poll results come November.

So, according to you Obama is supposed to get into a diving bell and rally the scuba divers to patch the leaks? And you think this issue - clearly the fault and responsibility of BP Oil - is instead the responsibility of the Obama Administration? You - the big advocate of the free market - are now telling us that the free market - as embodied by BP Oil - can't be trusted to take care of the mess they've made, and suddenly its GOVERNMENT'S responsibility to bail them out?

No, sorry, I'm going to be a libertarian on this one: No "government takeover" of the oil companies. No "socialist" spending of public money to solve a problem clearly caused by a company we're not going to "bail out." And once BP patches those leaks, we'll sue their ass and everything will be made right again. Ain't that the right-wing mantra?

 

[First]

...says a guy saying these polls are good news for Dems.

thanks for the laugh.

Here, I'll even spoon feed you some Huffington post polls

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/05/kirk-giannoulias-poll-aft_n_451356.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/08/bill-brady-leads-pat-quin_n_530293.html


Oh look at that, your dems are even losing according to the huffington post.

Still think the Dem is ahead?

What? You linked to another web site with the same Rasmussen polls. I guess this is some new version of wimp out you've invented or something?

 

[ProfJohn]

That's right Obama should be there to magically clean up the oil with his oil eliminating gaze.

That's what the left expected from Bush post Katrina.


Maybe we should do another gulf fund raiser. But this time we can use Sesame Street characters that way big bird can go on TV and proclaim "Obama doesn't like birds"

 

[ProfJohn]

What? You linked to another web site with the same Rasmussen polls. I guess this is some new version of wimp out you've invented or something?

Realclear politics has the race as a toss up, but in the 'no toss-up' page they have it as a Republican pick up.

Would be another remarkable pick up for symbolic value alone. And if Reid losses think of the trifecta.

1. Kennedy's seat.
2. Obama's seat.
3. Reid's seat.

Would be as bad or worse than Tom Foley losing election as the speaker of the house in 94.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2010/senate/il/illinois_senate_giannoulias_vs_kirk-1092.html

 

[Steeplerot]

Red Wave? Oh noes, Woooooooooolverines!

 

[ebaycj]

Senate:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...ctions/illinois/election_2010_illinois_senate

Kirk (R) 46%
Giannoulias (D) 38%



Governor:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...ions/illinois/election_2010_illinois_governor

Brady (R) 45%
Quinn (D) 38%




Democrats cant even bank on Illinois anymore. Ouch

Let's see...

Mark Kirk is a republican incumbent from the rich republican "north shore" suburbs of Chicago. The republican candidate is leading in a primarily republican district. This is not a surprise. It is also no surprise that Judy Biggert - R currently represents the rich republican west/southwest suburbs.

Pat Quinn is Illinois' very own Gerald Ford (to Rod Blagojevich's Nixon). He assumed office because his running mate was forced out due to corruption / shadiness. Of course he won't be re-elected.

 

[dmcowen674]

Let's see...

Mark Kirk is a republican incumbent from the rich republican "north shore" suburbs of Chicago. This is not a surprise. It is also no surprise that Judy Biggert - R currently represents the rich republican west/southwest suburbs.

Pat Quinn is Illinois' very own Gerald Ford (to Rod Blagojevich's Nixon). He assumed office because his running mate was forced out due to corruption / shadiness. Of course he won't be re-elected.

Don't try and confuse him with facts his tiny mind will assplode

 

[Fenixgoon]

You don’t need a weatherman
To know which way the wind blows.

*puts on sunglasses*


YEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

 

[nick1985]

Don't try and confuse him with facts his tiny mind will assplode

haha. What "facts" did he present? Bottom line is your Democrats are going down in a blue state.

 

[SammyJr]

It wouldn't surprise me if Brady won. IL voters have a short memory. Blago and Quinn are bad, so a Republican must be a welcome change, right? Well, the guy before Blago is a Republican and rotting in prison. Illinois politics is rotten to the core.

Of course, I still wouldn't be betting on a Brady win, though. He's not a moderate Republican by any means and this is a major problem in the Chicago area. Since the Republicans seem to be embracing this Tea Party thing with open arms, Brady is likely to go further right and alienating more people.

 

[nick1985]

Of course, I still wouldn't be betting on a Brady win, though.

$20?

 

[Kappo]

haha. What "facts" did he present? Bottom line is your Democrats are going down in a blue state.

It is inevitable that they will lose alot of traditionally blue states/districs during all of this. My concern is that they keep trying to push this crap on everyone (minorities rule!), and eventually crap gets through. I'm happy for the short term, but the long term effect is that they are trying to desensitize people to the fact that the radical views should be the norm. Immediate lashback makes them lose, but people remember that and the next person doesn't get as hostile of a reaction.

Think of it as the same perspective as letting your kid watch tons of sex and violence on TV. Eventually, the kid just isn't shocked or in horror of seeing highly graphic images.

 

[her209]

That's right Obama should be there to magically clean up the oil with his oil eliminating gaze.

Drill! Baby! Drill!

 

[ProfJohn]

Let's see...

Mark Kirk is a republican incumbent from the rich republican "north shore" suburbs of Chicago. The republican candidate is leading in a primarily republican district. This is not a surprise.

When did the Illinois senate seat become a Republican district?

Since 1970 the Republicans have won 1 Illinois senate race, seems like a pretty solid Democrat seat.

 

[OrByte]

I just heard that the reason the feds are not moving quickly to contain the oil spill that is moving toward your coast line is that Governor Jindal is a potential Presidential candidate for the Republicans.

I heard a lot of complaints that Bush "just" did a flyover the Katrina disaster and that the feds did not move quickly enough to contain the effects of that disaster. Weren't the government and Bush mocked incessantly for their "ineffectiveness" in this forum?

Now we have a massive environmental and economic disaster looming in the Gulf. Obama has refused to go to the scene. And where is the federal response beyond worthless speeches by clowns like Neapolitano?

This should be the the highest domestic priority for the feds and should include the mobilization of all required assets. Instead, Obama and the Democrats are sitting in DC and wringing their hands. This will also be reflected in the poll results come November.

I think you read the right wing blogs too much.

 

[nick1985]

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub..._party_should_pick_a_new_candidate_for_senate

20% of Illinois Democrats want to replace Alexi Giannoulias as their candidate for Senate. That bank scandal is going to doom his election chances, even in the blue state of Illinois.

 

[spidey07]

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub..._party_should_pick_a_new_candidate_for_senate

20% of Illinois Democrats want to replace Alexi Giannoulias as their candidate for Senate. That bank scandal is going to doom his election chances, even in the blue state of Illinois.

There was some exit polling and interviews at the indiana primaries today. Almost every registered independent gave the following reason on who they were selecting - "To stop Obama and stop his spending".

The tidal wave is going to be huge as people who didn't care much about politics see the destruction happening and will vote this year. And that vote will be to stop obama.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

There was some exit polling and interviews at the indiana primaries today. Almost every registered independent gave the following reason on who they were selecting - "To stop Obama and stop his spending".

Proud of my fellow Hoosiers :thumbsup:

 

[SammyJr]

There was some exit polling and interviews at the indiana primaries today. Almost every registered independent gave the following reason on who they were selecting - "To stop Obama and stop his spending".

The tidal wave is going to be huge as people who didn't care much about politics see the destruction happening and will vote this year. And that vote will be to stop obama.

Indiana != Illinois. Illinois is the oddball of the midwest, having Chicago. I don't even think Sarah Palin would consider Illinois to be "real America".

Whose primaries, anyway? Sounds like Republican/Tea Party primaries...

 

[piasabird]

People in Illinois, like me, look at politics differently. I live in southern Illinois. If any politician is from the Chicago Area we consider them corrupt. About 1/2 of the population of Illinois is situated in Chicago or the surrounding suburbs. However Chicago Votes, determines everything for the entire state. That is just the way it is.

It does not matter if they have a D or an R next to their name.

 

[b0mbrman]

A Republican Senator from Illinois? That hasn't happened since Reconstruction!

...or 2005...one of those. And that election could have likely gone Jack Ryan's way had Illinois voters not found out about his sex club visits.

Why should I be surprised that a very popular, moderate candidate is polling better than a deeply flawed candidate?

 

[nick1985]

A Republican Senator from Illinois? That hasn't happened since Reconstruction!

...or 2005...one of those.

While you are spinning, I'll throw out something for you to chew on.

Illinois has elected just one Republican Senator in the last 40 years. You think its just a coincidence that we are about to get another?.. and Obama's old seat nonetheless.

 

[cubby1223]

Let's see...

Mark Kirk is a republican incumbent from the rich republican "north shore" suburbs of Chicago. The republican candidate is leading in a primarily republican district. This is not a surprise. It is also no surprise that Judy Biggert - R currently represents the rich republican west/southwest suburbs.

Pat Quinn is Illinois' very own Gerald Ford (to Rod Blagojevich's Nixon). He assumed office because his running mate was forced out due to corruption / shadiness. Of course he won't be re-elected.

You pretty much also described precisely how Blagojevich was elected governor, as well as Obama to the U.S. Senate seat - fallout from the George Ryan trial.