The reason why Repubs dont want to fix global warming

[imported_tajmahal]

Road map to meet the Paris Accords, read it. If only for the laughs.
http://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2017/3/23/15028480/roadmap-paris-climate-goals

 

[LPCTech]

The progressive hive mind where half of democrats didnt vote rather than vote for hillary?

Or the conservative hive mind that all voted for trump despite their concerns worried they would be seen as traitors?

Or the conservative blond chick that disagreed with one issue and is now black listed?

Which hive mind again is it?

Just wondering.

I would feel bad for republicans, being used, manipulated and tricked nonstop to vote against themselves, but I don't feel bad, I just despise them for existing to be a tool of evil.

 

[agent00f]

People develop that trait in a struggle to survive. Competition breeds selfish desire.
It's not that half the country lacks empathy... but their empathy has been out weighed by other instincts in times of stress.
The core objection to fixing Healthcare is a fear of them not having it. Via rising costs and rationing.
The core objection to CO2 reduction is... guess what? Rising costs and rationing of things they want.

No, they just lack the developed intelligence:

https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...are-morally-deplorable.2498502/#post-38718238

Their minds literally can't process the prereqs for western liberalism.

 

[agent00f]

The "hive mind" as you put it is simply a set of shared values. That everyone should be treated equally under the law and that people should be treated on their own merits as individuals.

These are three things that you seem to struggle with. You want women and minorities treated as second class citizens and you can't help but paint entire groups with a broad brush in almost every post you make.

I suppose since you are referring to yourself as "we" I could lump you in with conservatives who shoot the wrong immigrants in cold blood to "take back their country, I could lump you in with angry lonely conservative men who threaten women with rape online. I could also lump you in with conservatives who wish to "curb stomp a liberal".

Instead I'll say you personally come across as angry and bitter. Someone who blames others for your misfortunes.

There's an objective reality that near half the US population will defend to the end some guy who proclaims the black president is a kenyan muslim and mexican rapists and such as basis for their backward political platform.

It comes as no surprise much the same people will deny evolution and climate or whatever other kind of science inconvenient to the ideology of inherent backwardness. It's simply not contentious that conservatism and its adherents are a cancer on modernity.

What's most insightful here is that conservatives don't actually contend the facts of this, other than they don't like being called backwards or cancer.

 

[Commodus]

There's an objective reality that near half the US population will defend to the end some guy who proclaims the black president is a kenyan muslim and mexican rapists and such as basis for their backward political platform.

It comes as no surprise much the same people will deny evolution and climate or whatever other kind of science inconvenient to the ideology of inherent backwardness. It's simply not contentious that conservatism and its adherents are a cancer on modernity.

What's most insightful here is that conservatives don't actually contend the facts of this, other than they don't like being called backwards or cancer.

There are intelligent conservatives.... they're just not the ones in power in the US right now, and not the lion's share of the people who voted for Trump.

Classic economic conservatism means lower taxes for a wide swath of people, and pushing for lighter regulation while understanding that certain rules are still necessary. Trump is solely interested in tax cuts for the wealthy and wants to deregulate as much as possible, even those rules that maintain basic labor standards, prevent environmental catastrophes and are in direct response to economic meltdowns.

Classic social conservatism means a tendency to cling to both good and bad religious values: it may mean a regressive attitude toward LGBT people, but it also means valuing a basic amount of compassion, fidelity and respect. For Trump, it only means the bad parts: he's happy to strip away basic protections and freedoms for groups the bigots don't like, but he also delights in yanking social programs that likely save lives... and of course, he's the antithesis of the religion that supposedly helped get him into office. It was hilarious/disturbing to see that photoshopped image of Jesus guiding Trump's hand in the Oval Office knowing that these 'virtuous' voters were rooting for a guy who cheated on his first two wives, celebrates sexual harassment, lies on a constant basis and is so greedy that he's more interested in funding his golf course trips than feeding senior citizens.

Unfortunately, you might not see a greater turn toward a better form of conservatism until and unless Trump's administration implodes. We're already starting to see a lot of people who realize they've been hoodwinked.

 

[IronWing]

Your "hive mind" is a forced acceptance of shared values and don't be on the wrong end of the stick from the progressives. They are a nice group of individuals that will be inclined to show you what happens when they have to leave their walled enclaves to ask "who dare challenges our omnipotence with independent thought?". Hell hath no fury like a progressive questioned. They are too busy being the elites of society and creating and ASSIGNING labels to individuals.

Halp halp I'm being repressed!

 

[agent00f]

There are intelligent conservatives.... they're just not the ones in power in the US right now, and not the lion's share of the people who voted for Trump.

Classic economic conservatism means lower taxes for a wide swath of people, and pushing for lighter regulation while understanding that certain rules are still necessary. Trump is solely interested in tax cuts for the wealthy and wants to deregulate as much as possible, even those rules that maintain basic labor standards, prevent environmental catastrophes and are in direct response to economic meltdowns.

Classic social conservatism means a tendency to cling to both good and bad religious values: it may mean a regressive attitude toward LGBT people, but it also means valuing a basic amount of compassion, fidelity and respect. For Trump, it only means the bad parts: he's happy to strip away basic protections and freedoms for groups the bigots don't like, but he also delights in yanking social programs that likely save lives... and of course, he's the antithesis of the religion that supposedly helped get him into office. It was hilarious/disturbing to see that photoshopped image of Jesus guiding Trump's hand in the Oval Office knowing that these 'virtuous' voters were rooting for a guy who cheated on his first two wives, celebrates sexual harassment, lies on a constant basis and is so greedy that he's more interested in funding his golf course trips than feeding senior citizens.

Unfortunately, you might not see a greater turn toward a better form of conservatism until and unless Trump's administration implodes. We're already starting to see a lot of people who realize they've been hoodwinked.

No, conservatism is more or less the same backwardness it's always been, per its own definition. What changed was (gradually) increasing intelligence per education/flynn, and with that decreased acceptance of the same backwards stupidity. What "smart" people could rationalize back in the day isn't so arguable anymore, for race, econ, whatever. The american founders were radical liberal thinkers back then, but a norm today. The world changed and so did where that quoted word is applicable.

As to religious moral virtue, that's only in a certain context and often rose tinted history. Religion is arguably better than natural savagery (per discovery channel), but not so much than any modern/humanist ethics. Same as simple markets are better than feudal systems but worse than any modern econ.

 

[agent00f]

Halp halp I'm being repressed!

What's truly comical is conservatism proclaiming novel/independent thought.