The reason why Repubs dont want to fix global warming

[JEDI]

THe polar ice caps will melt and flood/destroy the LIBERAL coastal cities

/Mind Blown?

 

[Grooveriding]

The real reason: The $$$$$ interests backing the effort to try and discredit the science and politicize the issue helps those Republicans stay in office and gives them cushy well paying jobs when they leave office. No other issue so highlights that Republican voters are victims of propaganda.

They deny reality out of partisanship. On an issue almost all of them are not qualified to understand, just as the politicians lying to them about it are also not qualified to render judgment on it. It's a disgrace how it has been turned into a position of political ideology in order to lie and cheat and keep enriching people like the Kochs while they pollute the planet.

 

[thraashman]

It's much simpler than that. The main trait to being a conservative is to lack empathy. They simply can't care about things that aren't themselves.

 

[Jaskalas]

It's much simpler than that. The main trait to being a conservative is to lack empathy. They simply can't care about things that aren't themselves.

People develop that trait in a struggle to survive. Competition breeds selfish desire.
It's not that half the country lacks empathy... but their empathy has been out weighed by other instincts in times of stress.
The core objection to fixing Healthcare is a fear of them not having it. Via rising costs and rationing.
The core objection to CO2 reduction is... guess what? Rising costs and rationing of things they want.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

1. What do you propose that can "fix" Global warming?
2. What exactly is it going to do to "fix" Global Warming?
3.How much of an effect is it going to have in 1 year, 10 years and by the end of the century?
4. How much is your proposal going to cost each year, in 10 years and by the end of the century?

Answer these 4 simple questions and we can get started.

 

[Commodus]

The boring answer: it's always about money.

Every time this comes up, I'm reminded of Clair Patterson and his crusade against leaded gas. He had the actual science on his side, but the oil industry paid a scientist (Robert Kehoe) to cast doubt on him so that it wouldn't have to accept the truth and clean up its fuel. Surprise, it wasn't until a Democratic senator's hearings that Patterson's views were validated.

It's a near repeat here, but with more corruption: the fossil fuel industry not only counts on Kehoe-like junk scientists whose only goal is to cast doubt on human-made climate change, it effectively bribes Republicans into looking the other way. New EPA head Scott Pruitt in particular is known to be on the take. Something important to remember from Patterson in the current environment:

"It is not just a mistake for public health agencies to cooperate and collaborate with industries in investigating and deciding whether public health is endangered; it is a direct abrogation and violation of the duties and responsibilities of those public health organizations."

 

[Commodus]

1. What do you propose that can "fix" Global warming?
2. What exactly is it going to do to "fix" Global Warming?
3.How much of an effect is it going to have in 1 year, 10 years and by the end of the century?
4. How much is your proposal going to cost each year, in 10 years and by the end of the century?

Answer these 4 simple questions and we can get started.

1. Lower CO2 emissions as much as possible by getting away from coal and oil in power, transportation and factories. Embrace renewable energy and electric transportation wherever possible.

2. Global warming is caused by excessive CO2 trapping heat. Reducing our share of CO2 emissions prevents that trapping effect from getting worse.

3. The effect in 1 year? Negligible, that's not how climate science works. 10 years? Modest amount. End of the century? Very tangible.

4. Cost would be difficult to quantify, because phasing out fossil fuel may be compensated by renewable energy replacements. Losing a coal plant doesn't matter if solar and wind farms blossom in its place. That and remember: the consequences of excessive global warming include the flooding of coastal cities, ecosystem imbalances and, in the worst case, rendering areas uninhabitable. While there could be such a thing as excessive costs, penny pinching now won't matter much if there are environmental disasters later.

 

[jman19]

Simple answer: there's still money to be made from pillaging the earth. Gotta get yours while the getting's good.

 

[Denly]

1. What do you propose that can "fix" Global warming?
2. What exactly is it going to do to "fix" Global Warming?
3.How much of an effect is it going to have in 1 year, 10 years and by the end of the century?
4. How much is your proposal going to cost each year, in 10 years and by the end of the century?

Answer these 4 simple questions and we can get started.

Let's forget about the term "global warming" for a sec. You can smell, taste and see pollutions in your daily life what's wrong with trying to improve the situation? Ask yourself this one simple question, nothing technical.

We all know what need to be done, at this point we just need everyone in the world to do it together. You know, even if the world is "flat" we still breathing the same air and depends on the same body of water.

 

[Puffnstuff]

I think that if politicians everywhere began closing their mouths and opening their eyes and ears that global warming would decrease by a considerable margin.

 

[mxnerd]

Pumping more oil and put money in their pockets immediately is a lot easier than build solar farms and try to recoup the profits slowly (probably 20 years.) from the investment.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Let's forget about the term "global warming" for a sec. You can smell, taste and see pollutions in your daily life what's wrong with trying to improve the situation? Ask yourself this one simple question, nothing technical.

We all know what need to be done, at this point we just need everyone in the world to do it together. You know, even if the world is "flat" we still breathing the same air and depends on the same body of water.

So you have no answer you just want to keep throwing virgins in the volcano and hoping the "Climate Change" Gods will make everything better. At least Commodus had a semi answer even if his "tangible" answer was wrong.

 

[Blue_Max]

Let's forget about the term "global warming" for a sec. You can smell, taste and see pollutions in your daily life what's wrong with trying to improve the situation? Ask yourself this one simple question, nothing technical.

We all know what need to be done, at this point we just need everyone in the world to do it together. You know, even if the world is "flat" we still breathing the same air and depends on the same body of water.

Exactly. Screaming at the clean people while the dirty ones carry on as normal. Can't put out a fire without hitting the heart of it. China and India are doing the most damage by far, concentrate maximum effort THERE while we perfect cleaner methods here at home that we can share with them.

I'm still more concerned about global POISONING than "warming". Deal with the larger problem first.

 

[Paratus]

1. What do you propose that can "fix" Global warming?
2. What exactly is it going to do to "fix" Global Warming?
3.How much of an effect is it going to have in 1 year, 10 years and by the end of the century?
4. How much is your proposal going to cost each year, in 10 years and by the end of the century?

Answer these 4 simple questions and we can get started.

1-3 asked and answered by the IPCC and Paris Accord Agreements.

As for cost? That's a tough question. But we could probably say if we pull the ~ $440 billion in global fossil fuel subsidies and combine it with the ~$90 billion in renewable subsidies then we would have 1/2 trillion a year to make a dent in it.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

1-3 asked and answered by the IPCC and Paris Accord Agreements.

As for cost? That's a tough question. But we could probably say if we pull the ~ $440 billion in global fossil fuel subsidies and combine it with the ~$90 billion in renewable subsidies then we would have 1/2 trillion a year to make a dent in it.

No the first 3 weren't. You just can't stop lying can you?

 

[Paratus]

No the first 3 weren't. You just can't stop lying can you?

Calling someone who disagrees with you a liar? You think you're Trump or something?


It's all out there for anyone who wants to look. I'm not going to sit here and spoon feed it to you.

 

[Jhhnn]

Exactly. Screaming at the clean people while the dirty ones carry on as normal. Can't put out a fire without hitting the heart of it. China and India are doing the most damage by far, concentrate maximum effort THERE while we perfect cleaner methods here at home that we can share with them.

I'm still more concerned about global POISONING than "warming". Deal with the larger problem first.

Well, yeh, seems reasonable on the surface to put it off on the ROTW, other than the fact we consume 22% of the world's energy. Besides that, your hero, the Donald, has decreed that climate change is a hoax invented by China.

 

[fskimospy]

Calling someone who disagrees with you a liar? You think your Trump or something?


It's all out there for anyone who wants to look. I'm not going to sit here and spoon feed it to you.

I like how he asked those questions and then deliberately ignored the answers. It's almost like he didn't actually care about the answers and was just trying to use questions as a cover to do nothing.

Nahhhhhh.

 

[boomerang]

Let's forget about the term "global warming" for a sec. You can smell, taste and see pollutions in your daily life what's wrong with trying to improve the situation? Ask yourself this one simple question, nothing technical.

We all know what need to be done, at this point we just need everyone in the world to do it together. You know, even if the world is "flat" we still breathing the same air and depends on the same body of water.

This will probably happen when certain factions on the planet stop cutting off heads and burning people alive in cages to mention just a few of the atrocities humans seem to relish inflicting on one another. I'm going to pick this coming Thursday as a target date for that to be wrapped up.

 

[Commodus]

This will probably happen when certain factions on the planet stop cutting off heads and burning people alive in cages to mention just a few of the atrocities humans seem to relish inflicting on one another. I'm going to pick this coming Thursday as a target date for that to be wrapped up.

I don't think it's so much everyone all at once as getting the main offenders to get started. And no, that doesn't mean waiting for China to go first -- it means reducing emissions at home and putting pressure on other countries. Set the example as best you can and give holdouts motivation to do better.

 

[BoomerD]

You fucking hippies. We are NOT gonna let something trivial like clean air and water or global warming interfere with profit taking.

THAT is why nothing will ever get done.

 

[Denly]

So you have no answer you just want to keep throwing virgins in the volcano and hoping the "Climate Change" Gods will make everything better. At least Commodus had a semi answer even if his "tangible" answer was wrong.

first you have to let us know what's your position on the matter, are you asking because you serious on the matter on hand or are you defending the party.

 

[Jhhnn]

first you have to let us know what's your position on the matter, are you asking because you serious on the matter on hand or are you defending the party.

Taj is a recurrent troll. He's been away for awhile. Click on his messages to see what he's about.

 

[Blue_Max]

Taj is a recurrent troll. He's been away for awhile. Click on his messages to see what he's about.

Troll, nazi, white supremacist... all names given to anyone with a contrary opinion to that of the progressive-left collective.

 

[Paratus]

Troll, nazi, white supremacist... all names given to anyone with a contrary opinion to that of the progressive-left collective.

Progressive left collective. A name given to anyone with a contrary opinion to the conservative right.