The reason why Intel is better than AMD

[Parsnip1973]

I suspect the marginal cost of producing a chip (once the actual research & development expenditure is past/historic/sunk)is relatively small. That would certainly muddy the waters between whether something is being sold at or below cost - I would think that as long as the chip was being sold for more than the MC of production, then it would be jolly hard to prove an illegal action was taking place

 

[dmens]

How is selling at a loss illegal? Just about every game console line for sale is in the red, along with lots of online ventures. And the fact that intel's margins have been north of 50% for the past decade means they do not sell for a loss, less so than AMD in fact.

 

[Viditor]

Originally posted by: dmens
How is selling at a loss illegal? Just about every game console line for sale is in the red, along with lots of online ventures. And the fact that intel's margins have been north of 50% for the past decade means they do not sell for a loss, less so than AMD in fact.

Relax Dmens...not an accusation at all. A poster was hypothesising that Intel was going to cut prices below cost to regain marketshare...

Selling at a loss is illegal...the reason that game consoles sell in the red (for example) is that they factor in the R&D and marketing into the published "cost", but that isn't the actual COGS (Cost Of Goods Sold). In addition, they can add the profit of games sales into a "bundle" and rationalise the price (legally).

 

[dmens]

Is that law in the books? There's so many businesses that engage in price wars I find it hard to believe that is an official US law.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: dmens
How is selling at a loss illegal? Just about every game console line for sale is in the red, along with lots of online ventures. And the fact that intel's margins have been north of 50% for the past decade means they do not sell for a loss, less so than AMD in fact.

Selling at a loss isn't in and of itself illegal; this is obvious due to liquidation being lgal among other things; predatory 'dumping' is illegal, just ike collusive non-compete agreements are illegal, but both are very hard to prove.

 

[Sureshot324]

Wow, intel must really be getting scared if they're putting out crap like this.

 

[F1shF4t]

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

Originally posted by: Dark Cupcake
Haha its just funny to read what a load of crap, o well, maybe they should of ran a game and then said

"well as u see the amd is getting more frames, but our intel machine is producing more quality frames which results in a more quility gaming experiance, and this also allows u to see slideshow images of the game better"

because its actually running about the same speed as a power point on the intel machine ?

I was just joking that even when they would put the 2 machines together, they would still make up some crap about how they are better even though its performing worse than the amd machine.

 

[Shenkoa]

Intel = Comercial
Intel = Lack of inovation
Intel = Crooks
Intel = Cocky
Intel = Slow
Intel = Hot
Intel = CRAP!

 

[F1shF4t]

Originally posted by: Shenkoa
Intel = Comercial
Intel = Lack of inovation
Intel = Crooks
Intel = Cocky
Intel = Slow
Intel = Hot
Intel = CRAP!

Now now, not all of that is true,

comercial - yes

lack of inovation - sure there has been less, but by no means netburst is crap, it just lived out its life, lets compare northwoods to athlon xps.

croocks - well so is microsoft, its a minopoly

cocky - got no idea what to say for that, i guess most companies are that way, u would not go and say that ur producs is crap

Slow - by no means p4 and p-d are slow, they are just slower than X2's, i mean compare to VIA and i'm sure u would have a intel cpu over that.

Hot - well so was the athlon


Whats ennoying is that u get companies spawing crap, rather than building on their strengths, (and yes there are some strengths that a p-d has over a X2, even though the X2 is overall better) they go out and start bashing another company trying to proove that they are sperior in every way possible down to the last toilet seat their engineers use.

Stop bashing others and give us the strengths that ur cpus have and why we should choose them, not s**t...

 

[LiveFree]

Here's the actual 32 page presentation:


INTEL PRESENTATION---POWER-POINT REQUIRED--1MB

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: LiveFree
Here's the actual 32 page presentation:


INTEL PRESENTATION---POWER-POINT REQUIRED--1MB

As I said in your thread, that SKU comparison slide is a hoot!

 

[Shenkoa]

Check out the Cornroe *coughs* Conroe benchmarks on the front page.

Intel wins in games this round.

 

[imported_Seer]

I find it hilarious reading the posts at the beginning completely dissing Intel now that it looks like Intel will "trounce" (depending on your definition) AMD with Conroe. Although I will say that that was based on K8 vs p4, mainly.

 

[Tangerines]

Yep, Intel looks to have AMD beat this round with their superior architecture.

 

[openwheelformula1]

AMD still has the performance crown though, until Conroe hits the shelves at least. Only mystery is how long will Intel keep it with Conroe.

 

[biostud]

Originally posted by: dmens
Is that law in the books? There's so many businesses that engage in price wars I find it hard to believe that is an official US law.

I makes sence that it's illegal. A monopoly like company could fend off any newcommers to the market by selling their products to cheap for a short amount of time, and when the small company can't profit it will close. When that happens the large company once again raise the prices on their goods and keep their monopoly. The free market is therefor not possible in this scenario, and that's why it's illegal to sell your goods under production costs.

 

[AdamK47]

Now that we have a lot of the AMD fanboys here corralled into one central location I would like to take this time by saying... LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

This is in light of the Conroe preview. Thanks for listening!