The reason the Gamecube IS CLOSE TO FAILING, IMO

WinkOsmosis

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It's the design. It's not lack of good games or processing power (the N64 did well with E rated games). It's the Fisher Price design. The controller looks like one of my 4 year old niece's educational toys and the Gamecube itself is almost as bad!!
Look at the Playstation 2. It's sleek, and simple. There are no yellow, green, blue, and red buttons and no child safe rounded edges. And it doesn't come in "indigo", the color that the Gamecube was somehow advertised in...
Maybe now electronics manufacturers will pay more attention to design and less to target audiences that don't buy games.

From my post on page 3:
Whether it failed, is failing, or just selling slowly is not the point. The point is that people are stupid and driven immensly by marketing.

Consider the fact that design is a part of marketing before spouting off how games matter and design doesn't. If that were true, the Gamecube with its awesome games would outsell PS2 wouldn't it?
 

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I would've thought it's because people are starting to get bored of playing virtually the same games they did 10 years ago, just with better graphics. :)
 

Skel

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It hasn't failed... it still outsells the Xbox in Japan, which is the primary target for all of them...
 

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I'll be disappointed if Gamecube goes the way of the Dreamcast, but I'm still glad I got both of them.
 

amnesiac

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Originally posted by: Skel
It hasn't failed... it still outsells the Xbox in Japan, which is the primary target for all of them...

Because the Japanese are notoriously loyal to domestic companies, especially with electronics. Microsoft's decision to even market the xbox in japan could not be seen as anything other than a major blunder.
 

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Originally posted by: flavio
It has failed?

no, just a fanboy who doesn't know what the hell hes talking about rambling on about things he shouldn't.
 

Storm

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I dont think it has failed... but they could have done a lot better if they released earlier. Wasn't it like 6 months or so after the ps2 it was released? or maybe even after the xbox?

All I know is the system got released really late, comparitively speaking with the others?
 

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Originally posted by: Jellomancer
It's the design. It's not lack of good games or processing power (the N64 did well with E rated games). It's the Fisher Price design. The controller looks like one of my 4 year old niece's educational toys and the Gamecube itself is almost as bad!!
Look at the Playstation 2. It's sleek, and simple. There are no yellow, green, blue, and red buttons and no child safe rounded edges. And it doesn't come in "indigo", the color that the Gamecube was somehow advertised in...
Maybe now electronics manufacturers will pay more attention to design and less to target audiences that don't buy games.

Yea, the color was a stupid idea. I have a black one.

The slower selling has been good for me. Out of the 17 games I have the most I've paid for any one game is 35 dollars and that was metroid prime.
 

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Actually the only reason I considered the Gamecube was the design. Nintendo actually puts effort and time into their design. I would like a nice small system like that. I own an xbox and the size of it is retarded. Nintendo put the money into R&D to make the compenents small so that the size of the console remains a decent size.
 

hdeck

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lmao, jellomancer doesn't even own a new gen console...don't see how he can bash any of them :)
 

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Originally posted by: Codewiz
Actually the only reason I considered the Gamecube was the design. Nintendo actually puts effort and time into their design. I would like a nice small system like that. I own an xbox and the size of it is retarded. Nintendo put the money into R&D to make the compenents small so that the size of the console remains a decent size.

Same thinking here.....plus they don't loose money on every unit they sell. I think they either break even or make a small profit on each system.
 

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I'm curious as to how you concluded that the GameCube is a failure? Nintendo is still making money off of it. In my humble opinion, it features some of the best games currently available in its target genre. Look at Metroid Prime... Hands down the best game released last year. Period. The new Zelda game will likely be tough to pass over for best game of 2003.

Also, I actually prefer the GC's controls to those on the XBox or PS2. They fit my hands better. The XBox controller is too big (and the small version is too crowded). The PS2 controller uses the dumb symbols on the buttons. As Americans, we tend to think in letters much more easily than we do symbols. When I've played the PS2, I've actually had to look down at the controller when they told me to press X or O or square or triangle. Finally, the wavebird is simply the best wireless controller ever.

I actually think the cube's compact design is superior to the PS2 or the XBox. The XBox is just way too big. The PS2 isn't nearly as bad, but I like the fact that you can stick the GC just about anywhere, and it is really easy to transport. Combine the small size with the wavebird, and you have a system that never needs to be moved, no matter how many players will use it.

Edit: One more thing... The GameCube GameBoy Player will be coming out in May. This device will open up the largest library of games ever made to the GameCube, and it will only run about $40. Before you knock GB games, remember that many of them are truly excellent games.

Ryan
 

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All points aside, I think we can all agree that Nintendo is not the company they once were, in so far as console systems are.

In the NES and SNES days, it was Nintendo and then it was everyone else. Even Sega Genesis had to compete against NES for awhile, then SNES came out and stomped it (in everything other than sports games of course, Madden was better on Genesis)

Gameboy is still an amazing success, but Nintendo fell back when N64 came out, it just was the wrong choice for the time. CDs were the future and the paronia over pirates caused Nintendo to make a bad choice.

Gamecube still doesn't use normal DVDs, which was a mistake on their part. I think Nintendo will be around for awhile, but that is more because of Gameboy than anything else.

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Originally posted by: Jellomancer
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: flavio
It has failed?

no, just a fanboy who doesn't know what the hell hes talking about rambling on about things he shouldn't.

Fanboy of what? I don't have any consoles.

well, maybe you're the anti-fanboy and should add "anti-gamecube" to your sig.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: Grasshopper27

Gamecube still doesn't use normal DVDs, which was a mistake on their part.
Hopper
howso?

 

LeeTJ

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i don't play consoles myself. i currently have an N64 for my 6 yr old and if we decide to get him a nex gen i'm going w/ gamecube. i'm sure i'm not the only parent that feels that way either.

so how exactly is Gamecube a failure??
 

mpitts

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Originally posted by: Jellomancer
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: flavio
It has failed?

no, just a fanboy who doesn't know what the hell hes talking about rambling on about things he shouldn't.

Fanboy of what? I don't have any consoles.

Then how exactly have you formed the opinion that it has failed?

I asked before. What constitutes success to you? If it was all black with an all black controller and had the same sales #'s, would you still deem it a failure?