The real reason we need 64-bit processors NOW

[glugglug]

Maybe you don't use any applications that require more than 2GB today. In 5 years I bet you will.

MS Longhorn, which will most likely be TCPA-centric is slated to come out in 2005. This means hardware will start being TCPA-ready in late 2004 in anticipation of it.

I think its important to get a PC that does NOT support TCPA. So Hammer could be the last chance to get a >32 bit computer meeting that requirement.

 

[Jeff7181]

The Trusted Computing Platform Alliance, or TCPA, was formed by Compaq, HP, IBM, Intel and Microsoft.

- http://www.trustedcomputing.org/tcpaasp4/index.asp

Notice AMD isn't included as one of the five companies.

 

[pspada]

Yea, like I want something from a "Trusted" computer company, since that generally ends up meaning you can trust them to screw you.

 

[PliotronX]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

The Trusted Computing Platform Alliance, or TCPA, was formed by Compaq, HP, IBM, Intel and Microsoft.

- http://www.trustedcomputing.org/tcpaasp4/index.asp

Notice AMD isn't included as one of the five companies.

True, they didn't cofound it, but they are a member of that orginization.

As for the original intention of the thread, there's not much we can do to stop whatever they're going to do, but I'm going to wait for further details before letting paranoia dictate my CPU purchases.

 

[DivideBYZero]

I am not currently worried by this. I'll buy whatever I need, and if the next Gen MS OS has spyware built in, I'll go Linux, end of.

/0

 

[oldfart]

The real reason we need 64-bit processors NOW

Maybe you don't use any applications that require more than 2GB today. In 5 years I bet you will.

So what is it? Now or 5 Years from now?

 

[Goose77]

Oh! f**k that. i cant belive that these companies can sit there and try to control what we do how we do it! This is getting out of control. Now i can believe INTEL would love this, since they were the first to impliment the dam processor serial number!! :frown: man! i got to learn me some linux

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: glugglug
Maybe you don't use any applications that require more than 2GB today. In 5 years I bet you will.

Isn't the current limitation of 32 bit processors 4 GB?

 

[cow123]

heh.. yeah jeff, was thinking same thing

 

[glugglug]

The upper bit is used to separate user space from kernel space so the per-process address space is 2GB.

 

[TerryMathews]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
I am not currently worried by this. I'll buy whatever I need, and if the next Gen MS OS has spyware built in, I'll go Linux, end of.

/0

TCPA and Palladium may keep you from running non-signed (non-Microsoft) OSes. It's BIOS-level control, so almost impossible to side-step.

 

[skyking]

Linux will still work, but only if someone ( you, me ) pay the $$ to get the software licensed. They can have my old non-palladium computers when they pry them from my cold dead hands, LOL!!!!

 

[bunnyfubbles]

yeah um, 2005 is in 2 years... what's with this "now", "5years", and "2004-2005 (less than 2 years away)" ????

 

[zephyrprime]

Yea, like I want something from a "Trusted" computer company, since that generally ends up meaning you can trust them to screw you.

So true.

 

[sman789]

I have a build of Longhorn and man.....does it eat my memory