The real immigration problem - VISA FRAUD

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If one of the problems is a lack of jobs, how is having more people going to help that problem?

Do you think "we liberals" think that immigration "helps" with the problem?
Of course it won't - and neither am I "for" illegal immigration, fantasies some of you guys seem to have.

What I want is focusing on and solving the ACTUAL problem.

No-one would give a shit about some thousands or tens of thousands of immigrants coming in if there was jobs in the first place.

You know, many decades ago, now giving an example of Europe, we called those folks "guest workers". People were glad they were coming in and they DID actually help the economy.

Now, decades later, people flip because of immigrants..they're not seen as "guest workers" and people who help w/ the economy but a burden on the system. JUSTIFIED. But they're a burden on the system because now X domestic workers are competing with immigrants in a job market where they have problems getting a job in the first place. Now solve the actual PROBLEM, in the right order, not from backwards while the CEO is counting his profit from having phones built cheaply in Swasiland. This is why a wall etc. can only be a halfass solution, probably not even have any noticeable impact on the economy/jobs AT ALL. In fact, building a wall and tripling Immigrations officers, building detention centers etc. costs money, a more than questionable ROI.

 

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There's currently 400,000 Americans staying illegally in Thailand..





They recently passed this measure:

And there's a $700 fine with deportation. Notice how a fine isn't racist?

What's your point? Those are pretty lax compared to the US. 3yr ban for <1 yr, 10yr ban for over 1yr. Permanent ban if you are deported.