The public debt needs to be cancelled

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Anarchist420

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Even at .6% interest on 10 year bonds, Japan pays 1/4 of its budget on its public debt!

Why do so many Keynesians want that to happen here? Further, why should China be paid back when there will be no consequences to Americans if the U.S.G. closes its bases near China? Is there really any good reason to continue paying them or to continue having military bases near them?

Deficits suck ass because they reduce productivity and I dont see why the debt owed to corporations and non-citizens cant be repudiated (as long as u.s. military bases and embassies are closed around them) and why debt held by U.S. Citizens can't be at least partially decentralized (with at least some decentralization of assets currently owned by the U.S.G. as well). I definitely dont support paying the debt back but I dont get why the budget cant be balanced. Reducing military and surveillance spending to 10% of what it is now would balance the budget immediately. Then look at how much is wasted on medicare (e.g., policing fraud, no means testing, name brands for all drugs bought through part D). Look at how much bureaucrats make and how hard it is for them to get fired (a small amount of cash would go a lot further than vouchers for shit, schip, medicaid, etc., etc). Look at how terrible the education system is (i.e., schools are like prisons and about half of school age kids are especially hurt by compulsory education). Think about all of the energy alternatives that could be available and how prices have not been good. Look at how shitty public housing is. Then think about how private charity will be sufficient if the State axes the welfare programs.
 
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schmuckley

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I think it should be paid by Senators and Congressmen only.
Out of their own personal funds.
 
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Even at .6% interest on 10 year bonds, Japan pays 1/4 of its budget on its public debt!

Why do so many Keynesians want that to happen here? Further, why should China be paid back when there will be no consequences to Americans if the U.S.G. closes its bases near China? Is there really any good reason to continue paying them or to continue having military bases near them?

Deficits suck ass because they reduce productivity and I dont see why the debt owed to corporations and non-citizens cant be repudiated (as long as u.s. military bases and embassies are closed around them) and why debt held by U.S. Citizens can't be at least partially decentralized (with at least some decentralization of assets currently owned by the U.S.G. as well). I definitely dont support paying the debt back but I dont get why the budget cant be balanced. Reducing military and surveillance spending to 10% of what it is now would balance the budget immediately. Then look at how much is wasted on medicare (e.g., policing fraud, no means testing, name brands for all drugs bought through part D). Look at how much bureaucrats make and how hard it is for them to get fired (a small amount of cash would go a lot further than vouchers for shit, schip, medicaid, etc., etc). Look at how terrible the education system is (i.e., schools are like prisons and about half of school age kids are especially hurt by compulsory education). Think about all of the energy alternatives that could be available and how prices have not been good. Look at how shitty public housing is. Then think about how private charity will be sufficient if the State axes the welfare programs.

It would be the Christian thing to do.

Let's have a Jubalee!
 

Mr. Pedantic

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Even at .6% interest on 10 year bonds, Japan pays 1/4 of its budget on its public debt!

Why do so many Keynesians want that to happen here? Further, why should China be paid back when there will be no consequences to Americans if the U.S.G. closes its bases near China? Is there really any good reason to continue paying them or to continue having military bases near them?

Deficits suck ass because they reduce productivity and I dont see why the debt owed to corporations and non-citizens cant be repudiated (as long as u.s. military bases and embassies are closed around them) and why debt held by U.S. Citizens can't be at least partially decentralized (with at least some decentralization of assets currently owned by the U.S.G. as well). I definitely dont support paying the debt back but I dont get why the budget cant be balanced. Reducing military and surveillance spending to 10% of what it is now would balance the budget immediately. Then look at how much is wasted on medicare (e.g., policing fraud, no means testing, name brands for all drugs bought through part D). Look at how much bureaucrats make and how hard it is for them to get fired (a small amount of cash would go a lot further than vouchers for shit, schip, medicaid, etc., etc). Look at how terrible the education system is (i.e., schools are like prisons and about half of school age kids are especially hurt by compulsory education). Think about all of the energy alternatives that could be available and how prices have not been good. Look at how shitty public housing is. Then think about how private charity will be sufficient if the State axes the welfare programs.

I like how you make sweeping generalisations for these government initiatives from the US implementations of them.

"American compulsory education is shit, therefore compulsory education is shit"
"American publicly funded medicine is shit, therefore publicly funded medicine is shit"
"Kazakhstani tanks are shit, therefore tanks are shit"
 

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it's all vapor wear including all YOUR personal possessions and holdings. If your recommendation occurs your new home will be a card board box and plastic garbage bags. And rats will be your food of choice.
 

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it's all vapor wear including all YOUR personal possessions and holdings. If your recommendation occurs your new home will be a card board box and plastic garbage bags. And rats will be your food of choice.
why mine so specifically? just wondering:)

"Kazakhstani tanks are shit, therefore tanks are shit"
Guerilla warfare has been proven to be successful at defense.
"American publicly funded medicine is shit, therefore publicly funded medicine is shit"
it isnt as nice as the free market (including repeal of legal tender and no taxes) would be. think about licensure and how many people are barred from practicing medicine because they cant handle the structure of another 4 years of formal education. think about how society loses from that. and there is no reason that anyone who doesnt need medical care should be forced to pay for it. the working poor would be paying at least 1/3 of their income for it.
"American compulsory education is shit, therefore compulsory education is shit"
why should anyone be allowed to force anyone else to go to school? i mean, the State threatens parents with jail time if they dont force their kids to go to school or go through huge efforts to cut the red tape.

it is all about control. i went through school and look how many resources it wasted.
 

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somebody doesnt understand fractional reserve banking...


this seems to come out alot...

all you people need to watch zeitgest 2... then understand why we must never balance the budget OR try lower our debt.. for America to be healthy, it needs and the people need to be....in serious debt... and we have to back that with bullets (hence the worlds largest and most advanced military)
 

Newell Steamer

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Quite the opposite; it is poised to increase.

Money is something that should be owned/earned by the rich - much like gold was during medieval times.

In order to "own" the masses, you need to threaten them with prison, for them to do the rich person's bidding. Not all of them are criminals, so, you cripple and imprison them with debt.
 
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