The PS4 was released in November

[Bateluer]

The PS3 launch was considered a "disaster" by many. Is this more or less so?

The PS3 got a weak start, but they equalized as the PS3 games evolved past what the 360 offered, combined with the pricing equalizing and BluRay winning the standard war.

This time around, the PS4 came out swinging and has outsold the XB1 3:1, and combined with Microsoft blundering the PR for their console spectacularly, its not unexpected either.

It doesn't do anything like that if they're all sold out. People aren't buying 5 consoles at a time and hoarding them. They sell them and people use them.

They resale them for double the MSRP. When the MSRP is 400 dollars and the flippers resell them for 800, its not good for early adoption rates. It keeps the consoles in a limited number of hands and keeps game sales soft and sluggish.

No, they just force you to buy a game with it because it nets them more money.

One would think that a person who's going to play games on their 400 dollar game console would want at least 1 game to start with.

 

[mnewsham]

No, they just force you to buy a game with it because it nets them more money.

Walmart is the only place I have seen have regular stock online, but you can only buy the accessory bundle + 1 game, or the 2 game bundle.

They are $517 and $507 respectively.

I think gamestop has the infamous bundle up for preorder.

Besides that there is ebay, CL, or amazon reseller.

It will probably be mid april before you can order JUST a ps4 online for MSRP.

 

[Ichinisan]

Makes me wonder just how many people stood in line for an XB1/PS4 just to try sell them on eBay for massive mark ups. Retailers and e-tailers should enforce strict 1 unit per customer policies for some products to prevent such despicable tactics. MS and Sony would be on board, as people soaking up on the console stock to sell them for 2x MSRP just hurts adoption rates and stalls the new consoles.

Wrong.

People buying them when demand outstrips supply does not limit adoption. They are sold immediately.

They're simply doing a favor to a certain kind of buyer: A buyer that is willing to pay more money, but not willing to spend the same amount of effort the seller went through to get it.

 

[Mai72]

Android gaming is where it's at!

I just got done playing Fifa 14 on my Nexus 5. Pretty good game.

 

[BladeVenom]

6 million sold as of March 2. http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/04/us-sony-playstation-idUSBREA230BG20140304

 

[mizzou]

count me in as a early ps4 owner with 0 software attachment rate. Since I was "forced" to get ps+, I've actually had enough free games on ps3 and ps4 to keep me busy enough.

I refuse to pay $60 for a AAA game

Once they start hitting $40 or $30, I'll start attaching.

 

[mnewsham]

count me in as a early ps4 owner with 0 software attachment rate. Since I was "forced" to get ps+, I've actually had enough free games on ps3 and ps4 to keep me busy enough.

I refuse to pay $60 for a AAA game

Once they start hitting $40 or $30, I'll start attaching.

I got 3 launch titles (before the launch of the console) for $95. $32 each was a good price I thought. Games were BF4, assassin's creed, and call of duty ghosts.

 

[bearxor]

count me in as a early ps4 owner with 0 software attachment rate. Since I was "forced" to get ps+, I've actually had enough free games on ps3 and ps4 to keep me busy enough.

I refuse to pay $60 for a AAA game

Once they start hitting $40 or $30, I'll start attaching.

This is basically how I'm feeling now. I want SP:SoT, but I damn sure don't want to pay $60 for it. It needs to drop to about $40 before I pick it up. Tired of paying $60/game.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

After a MASSIVE PS3 disappointment I am skipping the PS4. If you are looking for one WalMart tends to have plenty of them

 

[88keys]

After all of the problems that people had with the Xbox 360 and RROD, I'd have to think that anyone who would buy a Microsoft console after all that crap is an idiot.

I learned a long time ago to not buy their peripherals.

 

[slag]

They just seem to sell out fast. I haven't seen one at Best Buy since late last year.

There were 3 on the shelf at my local best buy on Sunday. I haven't seen them sold out since launch.

 

[Eug]

consoles will be dead pretty soon. hate to break it to everyone.

To my surprise, nobody I know personally actually wants a PS4, except for the one guy amongst my friends that buys every single console out there.

 

[M0oG0oGaiPan]

might as well get it now. once good stuff comes out for it the price isn't going to drop and it'll be harder to find a system probably. there's been amazon warehouse deals for them i think.

 

[tHa ShIzNiT]

After a MASSIVE PS3 disappointment I am skipping the PS4. If you are looking for one WalMart tends to have plenty of them

What was disappointing about the PS3? Sure it started off poorly, like almost all consoles do...but when all's said and done (well, pretty much now) I consider it probably the single best console ever (hard to beat the SNES though...). The games have been fantastic and plentiful, tons of excellent exclusives, FREE ONLINE PLAY, blu ray capability, and the thing has lived forever. I've gone through two 360's in the time I've had my ps3. Damn, that thing has provided me some good times. Ahhh don't look at me, I'm tearing up.

 

[ViRGE]

6 million sold as of March 2. http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/04/us-sony-playstation-idUSBREA230BG20140304

And this is why the PS4 is still hard to find. Sony's original projections were for 5mil consoles by the end of this month, so sales are almost 2 months ahead of projections.

Given the time it takes to ramp up production - assuming it can be ramped up at all - it's not surprising that the console is in short supply. Granted, it's not as bad as the previous generation since you can still find them, but it's not a loose supply to say the least.

The PS3 launch was considered a "disaster" by many. Is this more or less so?

This would be a very successful launch. Sony is selling consoles as fast as they can make them, they aren't losing money on the hardware, and the competition is struggling. The only way this could have gone better for them would have been for the XB1 to bomb right out of the gate. There's almost nothing Sony could have done differently on their end to further improve their fortunes here.

 

[KK]

amazon has them in stock now

 

[Rakehellion]

amazon has them in stock now

I nearly just bought one.

 

[KK]

I nearly just bought one.

chicken

 

[CPA]

My PS3 still plays BDs very well, and streams Netflix for me. Once that croaks, I will consider a PS4.

Mine croaked, I just bought a used PS3 off of ebay with 3 current games, 2 controllers and the move controller for far less than a PS4. No reason to upgrade yet.

 

[Majcric]

I just pulled the trigger on Amazon. Thanks for pointing it out being in stock. Hell, I just checked this afternoon and it wasn't. Delivery is Thursday and I'm looking forward to Infamous and Metal Gear. Then Drive Club and The Show. As a Casual gamer that's plenty of the rest of the year

Will just rent games until then

 

[ponyo]

amazon has them in stock now

In the past I would've purchased it on impulse. Now, sales tax kills any desire to buy anything expensive from Amazon. MSRP is bad enough. Paying tax on top is insult.

 

[Majcric]

I pay sales tax at other stores, so no different for me.

 

[Arkaign]

They're still selling for over retail on CL around here. Walmart or Best Buy or CostCo get a pallet of them, which disappears in about 30 minutes. Haven't seen anything like it since
PS2, normally console sales are DEAD in Q1 (see XB1, 360, PS3, etc).

 

[Arkaign]

In Europe the PS4 is outselling the XB1 between 5 to 1 and 10 to 1, and in the UK it's about 3 to 3.5 to 1. Ouch.

 

[Bateluer]

I refuse to pay $60 for a AAA game

Then why do you game on a console then? All the AAA console titles are 60 USD+, and tend to hang there for much longer. Even on the PC, the AAA releases are usually 50-60 dollars. Takes a lot of money to make a AAA title, regardless of the platform.