The Proud Boys can go pound sand

[Fenixgoon]

Yup, that's exactly what I said. It's 100% illegal, and I'm cool with whatever punishment he gets.

I only took issue with the folks playing this up as if the cop was there to shoot anyone who didn't vote Trump. What he did was already illegal and bad enough. No need to get ridiculous about it and turn this into an exaggerated political ploy. Address what the guy actually did and that's enough.

No one said he was there specifically to shoot people who didn't vote Trump.

You don't have to physically harm anyone to intimidate them.

 

[woolfe9998]

This is too sophisticated for the Proud Boys. I'd bet 2:1 it was the Russians.

 

[Paladin3]

No one said he was there specifically to shoot people who didn't vote Trump.

You don't have to physically harm anyone to intimidate them.

Nope, all someone said was that he was there as an agent of the state, armed, authorized by the state to use lethal force and that people would be scared to vote because of the threat. And all I tried to say was that such accusations were a little ridiculous.

When I see someone campaigning for a specific candidate, I don't consider it intimidation, even if they are law enforcement. And that's totally besides the fact that where he was campaigning it was illegal to do so, for which he should be disciplined and/or charged.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Nope, all someone said was that he was there as an agent of the state, armed, authorized by the state to use lethal force and that people would be scared to vote because of the threat. And all I tried to say was that such accusations were a little ridiculous.

When I see someone campaigning for a specific candidate, I don't consider it intimidation, even if they are law enforcement. And that's totally besides the fact that where he was campaigning it was illegal to do so, for which he should be disciplined and/or charged.

If people perceive the armed person as threatening, then they are in fact threatening regardless of whether that is their intention or not.

The fact that the person is an agent of the state makes it worse because we know how well police brutality is prosecuted in this country /S

So yes, an armed person, supporting a candidate who is delegitimizing the election, and has failed to condemn white supremacy (forgot that part), certainly can be perceived as intimidating or threatening.

 

[thilanliyan]

Yup, that's exactly what I said. It's 100% illegal, and I'm cool with whatever punishment he gets.

I only took issue with the folks playing this up as if the cop was there to shoot anyone who didn't vote Trump. What he did was already illegal and bad enough. No need to get ridiculous about it and turn this into an exaggerated political ploy. Address what the guy actually did and that's enough.

He doesn't have to actually pull the gun on someone to intimidate them. Not only that...I'm fairly certain coloured people in general feel intimidated by police regardless of the situation. However in this case I'm not sure he was actually trying to intimidate people into voting Trump.

 

[nickqt]

Nope, all someone said was that he was there as an agent of the state, armed, authorized by the state to use lethal force and that people would be scared to vote because of the threat. And all I tried to say was that such accusations were a little ridiculous.

When I see someone campaigning for a specific candidate, I don't consider it intimidation, even if they are law enforcement. And that's totally besides the fact that where he was campaigning it was illegal to do so, for which he should be disciplined and/or charged.

Only your point of view matters, and no one else's.

Yeah, you've told us that multiple times in this thread now.

Thanks for stopping by.

 

[Viper1j]

I saw someone today flying a Blue Lives Matter flag on the radio antenna.

I honked and said "Yeah! Blue Lives Matter! And then I waved this picture.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

lol the people here who call this laughable stuff "voter intimidation" are probably the same people who think this guy was harassing people:

 

[repoman0]

lol the people here who call this laughable stuff "voter intimidation" are probably the same people who think this guy was harassing people:

It is clear cut voter intimidation. I’m glad you’re at the point where you are defending the proud boys though, nice insight into your garbage character.

 

[Meghan54]

lol the people here who call this laughable stuff "voter intimidation" are probably the same people who think this guy was harassing people:

So, you are once again, proving that only white people can define, interpret, and determine whether persons of color are facing racism and intimidation. Gotcha.

Because it sure doesn't seem to matter one tinker's damn what blacks claim, only what whites feel.

 

[nickqt]

It is clear cut voter intimidation. I’m glad you’re at the point where you are defending the proud boys though, nice insight into your garbage character.

n0b0dy has a garbage mind, so of course he has a garbage character.

All he does here is hold up a mirror and scream at it.

 

[zinfamous]

Lock up anyone who engages in voter intimidation. No excuses. No rationalizations. Full stop.

Trump told them to do it.

So, him too?

 

[feralkid]

its not just cops and black people, cops murder all races. Am i scared of the police during a traffic stop? YES. am i scared of a police officer in a polling station NO. you dont see the difference? there is basically zero to worry about, if you hate teh police it would make you want to vote even more for biden right?

Choose one or more:

1. White

2. Male

3. Trumpster

 

[brandonbull]

How about those who incite? Are they partially responsible?

Yes they are.

 

[brandonbull]

First, what are you talking about? No one even said such a thing, yet here you are acting like people were screaming that they personally had a gun pulled on them by this cop (so you're doing exactly what you're bitching about).

Which, considering what a pearl clutching motherfucker who cried that any gun control amounts to total and complete fascism (I don't even remember all the crybaby bitch shit you spewed in gun control threads - although I'll give you credit that you didn't sue a company claiming they ruined your baby Jesus worship for not selling you a gun, or at least you didn't try and get sympathy and brag about it on this forum if you did) because you're so scared someone might at some point threaten you (with your "if the guvment comes for me!" obviously being complete bullshit since your gun wouldn't do jack shit if they wanted to kill your ass), its rich that you're here trying to cop this fucking tone, you fucking hypocrite.

I realize you're a white guy who fucked off to backwoods Montana region so he can go jerk off his surrogate penis and horde animal murder trophies, but are you subsisting entirely on chickenshit or is it merely the race aspect that's at play and why you're copping your Billy Badass routine? While you might not be a white supremacist I guarantee you personally know and likely are even friends with some. Point being, you don't get to lecture other people, especially black people, who have been targeted and fucking murdered by cops that they shouldn't feel threatened by one walking around in a Turmp mask by a polling place. Furthermore, if you think their only fear is him just shooting them right there if they don't vote for Turmp you're even more of a dumb sonofabitch than I thought.

Cry moar. People aren't afraid because you carry a gun. They're afraid because you're an obvious right wing indoctrinated asshole with a gun. That's been proven over and over and over to be something that people have reason to not want around them. Because at best they likely have to deal with you constantly pissing and moaning about how you're so persecuted for open carrying (or a litany of other bullshit things that you've chosen to do and likely choose to go out of your way to be an in your face asshole about), and at worst they're expecting you to snap and fucking murder a bunch of them because your girlfriend/wife left you or you fucked up and got reprimanded at work, or because you spend too much time on Stormfront/4Chan/Facebook and have decided that you're going to be the avenging angel to finally bring about the race war. Because that's what you brain fucked white dudes obsessed with guns keep fucking doing.



Yeah I bet they basically told him to stop wearing the mask while in uniform and moved him to another polling location, while they probably gave him extra compensation for having to go somewhere else and laughed about it.



I think in some states its public record (if not your voting record your party affiliation). Florida has a bunch of "transparency" laws (its why you hear so many stories about "Forida man" because they have laws making arrest records available to the public), so it wouldn't surprise me if they have some with regards to voting.

You have some serious and worrisome angry issues along with some outlandish sexual fetish projection. I guess you didn't mention rape so there's that.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Trump told them to do it.

So, him too?

Yes, but NBC news is reporting Iran was behind this. What is the appropriate response to a sovereign nation meddling with our elections?

 

[MrSquished]

Yes, but NBC news is reporting Iran was behind this. What is the appropriate response to a sovereign nation meddling with our elections?

With some sort of punishment. In Iran's case we helped overthrow Mossadegh and install the Shah, which helped lead to the Islamic revolution, so I'd say we could call it even at best.

 

[Thump553]

Yes, but NBC news is reporting Iran was behind this. What is the appropriate response to a sovereign nation meddling with our elections?

They are reporting Iran and Russia behind it. I can see Russia-they want their puppet to remain in power, but Iran is a big stretch. The only thing they would get out of Trump is a continued weakening of the USA and very soon US withdrawal from NATO. My gut feeling is Russia left false leads to Iran.

 

[Starbuck1975]

With some sort of punishment? In Iran's case we helped overthrow Mossadegh and install the Shah, which helped lead to the Islamic revolution, so I'd say we could call it even at best.

What sort of punishment is appropriate. Trump authorized our taking out one of Iran’s top asymmetrical warfare assets, but this was bad because reasons.

 

[fskimospy]

Nope, all someone said was that he was there as an agent of the state, armed, authorized by the state to use lethal force and that people would be scared to vote because of the threat. And all I tried to say was that such accusations were a little ridiculous.

When I see someone campaigning for a specific candidate, I don't consider it intimidation, even if they are law enforcement. And that's totally besides the fact that where he was campaigning it was illegal to do so, for which he should be disciplined and/or charged.

It is frankly bizarre and fascistic that you don’t view paid, armed agents of the state advertising for current political leadership to be a problem and that your only issue is the location where the paid, armed state agents were advertising for it.

Like seriously, what the fuck.

 

[MrSquished]

What sort of punishment is appropriate. Trump authorized our taking out one of Iran’s top asymmetrical warfare assets, but this was bad because reasons.

Well when Russia did it, we had our president sell out our intelligence agencies directly to Putin on the international stage. Sanctions were imposed against Russia, but I don't think because Trump wanted them. There was a little left to Republican's integrity at the time, what miniscule amount that was, so they imposed some.

And this intel is still not 100%. Ratcliffe is, well, a rat. And I've read multiple reports that the intel is not verified that it's Iran that did this, it's still being figured out. If they did, then economic sanctions would be appropriate. Unless you propose we conduct military action against Iran? I wouldn't be at all surprised if Trump lobs a cruise missile into Iran at some point before the election, just to rile up his redneck base and give them some meat.

The US has meddled in elections and power structures all over the globe for many many decades, including a whopper in Iran that really helped set the stage for where we are today with them. Most Americans don't know any of that history, and if you told them, it would go over their heads. Not that it justifies what is happening now, but you have to admit it's just all so totally fucked.

 

[WelshBloke]

Nope, all someone said was that he was there as an agent of the state, armed, authorized by the state to use lethal force and that people would be scared to vote because of the threat. And all I tried to say was that such accusations were a little ridiculous.

I mean which bit of "he was there as an agent of the state, armed, authorized by the state to use lethal force" is inaccurate or not factual?
The "people would be scared to vote because of the threat" is subjective on the person and in current climes there will undoubtedly be people who would not want to be around a cop that was being deliberately provocative.

 

[HurleyBird]

This should have set everyone's hoax detectors off tbh. It set mine off, and I was thinking 10-to-1 in favour of hoax, but I knew that if I posted anything sceptical right off the bat I'd be met by a mountain of snark from dimwits who unthinkingly accept anything that fits their narrative, and unthinkingly deny anything that doesn't, so I self censored.

 

[IronWing]

This should have set everyone's hoax detectors off tbh. It set mine off, and I was thinking 10-to-1 in favour of hoax, but I knew that if I posted anything sceptical right off the bat I'd be met by a mountain of snark from dimwits who unthinkingly accept anything that fits their narrative, and unthinkingly deny anything that doesn't, so I self censored.

I don’t recall another poster getting both the victimhood and passive aggression merit badges in a single post, certainly not in such a short and otherwise content free post. Your sash must be getting filled up.

 

[HurleyBird]

I don’t recall another poster getting both the victimhood and passive aggression.

"Dimwits" isn't all that passive you know.

Hardly a victim (more of a masochist for sticking around) but do you seriously believe that showing scepticism on page one would end any way other than exactly what I described? If not then you don't have a point, just more empty snark as usual.