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Thump553

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The "discipline" is unspecified. Given the current situation of high political tension, distrust of police in general, and a pretty clear case of voter intimidation charging him with a crime is the minimum "discipline" acceptable. Frankly that guy has so little disrespect for his job and the responsibilities involved he should also be pounding the streets looking for different employment.
 

purbeast0

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It is super easy to spoof the "from" email address. How do they know it's not just someone trolling or spamming this to everyone, trying to make it look like the proud boys are doing it?
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
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It is super easy to spoof the "from" email address. How do they know it's not just someone trolling or spamming this to everyone, trying to make it look like the proud boys are doing it?

It's been a long long time since I did anything with tracing emails, but iirc it is possible to do find the IP(s) they were sent from.

Back then, I had juno for dialup service, and they had a plain ole smtp service I could login to on the cli and send my college instructors fake emails from. It was fun, but after a bit they were a little agitated so I stopped
 

purbeast0

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It's been a long long time since I did anything with tracing emails, but iirc it is possible to do find the IP(s) they were sent from.

Back then, I had juno for dialup service, and they had a plain ole smtp service I could login to on the cli and send my college instructors fake emails from. It was fun, but after a bit they were a little agitated so I stopped
Well it looks like the originated overseas so there is that...

 

ch33zw1z

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Well it looks like the originated overseas so there is that...


Yea, I just don't get the impression the proud boys are in on this either. They're more likely to intimidate in person instead of electronically IMO. Maybe more info will come out about it. It wouldn't surprise me if they are in on it tho, the RW in america has a proclivity for violence.
 

dawp

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On, please, let's be real, folks. Did anyone actually think that cop was going to shoot them if they didn't vote Trump? How fucking stupid.

That doesn't make it any less of a crime or unethical to do ANY form of campaigning inside or near a polling place. Especially by a law enforcement officer representing the state. Wearing that mask was very inappropriate and illegal, just don't act like he was holding a gun to voters heads or you start to sound like nut and weaken the argument against what he actually did. Which was bad enough all by itself.
he doesn't have to, just being in uniform with that mask at the polling place is against department policy and could be a violation of law as candidate signage inside a polling location is banned in a number of states.
 
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dawp

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It is super easy to spoof the "from" email address. How do they know it's not just someone trolling or spamming this to everyone, trying to make it look like the proud boys are doing it?
plus people have been routing through several overseas relays for years to try to throw off law enforcement. just because it comes from overseas does not mean it wasn't PB.
 
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On, please, let's be real, folks. Did anyone actually think that cop was going to shoot them if they didn't vote Trump? How fucking stupid.

That doesn't make it any less of a crime or unethical to do ANY form of campaigning inside or near a polling place. Especially by a law enforcement officer representing the state. Wearing that mask was very inappropriate and illegal, just don't act like he was holding a gun to voters heads or you start to sound like nut and weaken the argument against what he actually did. Which was bad enough all by itself.

First, what are you talking about? No one even said such a thing, yet here you are acting like people were screaming that they personally had a gun pulled on them by this cop (so you're doing exactly what you're bitching about).

Which, considering what a pearl clutching motherfucker who cried that any gun control amounts to total and complete fascism (I don't even remember all the crybaby bitch shit you spewed in gun control threads - although I'll give you credit that you didn't sue a company claiming they ruined your baby Jesus worship for not selling you a gun, or at least you didn't try and get sympathy and brag about it on this forum if you did) because you're so scared someone might at some point threaten you (with your "if the guvment comes for me!" obviously being complete bullshit since your gun wouldn't do jack shit if they wanted to kill your ass), its rich that you're here trying to cop this fucking tone, you fucking hypocrite.

I realize you're a white guy who fucked off to backwoods Montana region so he can go jerk off his surrogate penis and horde animal murder trophies, but are you subsisting entirely on chickenshit or is it merely the race aspect that's at play and why you're copping your Billy Badass routine? While you might not be a white supremacist I guarantee you personally know and likely are even friends with some. Point being, you don't get to lecture other people, especially black people, who have been targeted and fucking murdered by cops that they shouldn't feel threatened by one walking around in a Turmp mask by a polling place. Furthermore, if you think their only fear is him just shooting them right there if they don't vote for Turmp you're even more of a dumb sonofabitch than I thought.

Cry moar. People aren't afraid because you carry a gun. They're afraid because you're an obvious right wing indoctrinated asshole with a gun. That's been proven over and over and over to be something that people have reason to not want around them. Because at best they likely have to deal with you constantly pissing and moaning about how you're so persecuted for open carrying (or a litany of other bullshit things that you've chosen to do and likely choose to go out of your way to be an in your face asshole about), and at worst they're expecting you to snap and fucking murder a bunch of them because your girlfriend/wife left you or you fucked up and got reprimanded at work, or because you spend too much time on Stormfront/4Chan/Facebook and have decided that you're going to be the avenging angel to finally bring about the race war. Because that's what you brain fucked white dudes obsessed with guns keep fucking doing.

The "discipline" is unspecified. Given the current situation of high political tension, distrust of police in general, and a pretty clear case of voter intimidation charging him with a crime is the minimum "discipline" acceptable. Frankly that guy has so little disrespect for his job and the responsibilities involved he should also be pounding the streets looking for different employment.

Yeah I bet they basically told him to stop wearing the mask while in uniform and moved him to another polling location, while they probably gave him extra compensation for having to go somewhere else and laughed about it.

This is crazy, but I have a feeling the e-mail address spoofed. Or the inbreds really are stupider than I thought.

I wonder if the voter rolls are easily available for download, or if they would've had to do a FOIA request or purchase a list. If so it might be a bit easier to track down.

I think in some states its public record (if not your voting record your party affiliation). Florida has a bunch of "transparency" laws (its why you hear so many stories about "Forida man" because they have laws making arrest records available to the public), so it wouldn't surprise me if they have some with regards to voting.
 
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Homerboy

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Zorba

Lifer
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I think in some states its public record (if not your voting record your party affiliation). Florida has a bunch of "transparency" laws (its why you hear so many stories about "Forida man" because they have laws making arrest records available to the public), so it wouldn't surprise me if they have some with regards to voting.

I think rolls are public record everywhere and most states so is affiliation and voting history. But I was wondering how easy it is to get those public records, if it is something you have to formally request, or pay for, or if it's just out on a website for download.
 

MtnMan

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On, please, let's be real, folks. Did anyone actually think that cop was going to shoot them if they didn't vote Trump? How fucking stupid.

That doesn't make it any less of a crime or unethical to do ANY form of campaigning inside or near a polling place. Especially by a law enforcement officer representing the state. Wearing that mask was very inappropriate and illegal, just don't act like he was holding a gun to voters heads or you start to sound like nut and weaken the argument against what he actually did. Which was bad enough all by itself.
YOU can't wear your fucking maga hat into the polls, and this jackwagon doesn't get to wear his fucking Trump undies on his face. IT'S ILLEGAL.
 
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killster1

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First, what are you talking about? No one even said such a thing, yet here you are acting like people were screaming that they personally had a gun pulled on them by this cop (so you're doing exactly what you're bitching about).

Which, considering what a pearl clutching motherfucker who cried that any gun control amounts to total and complete fascism (I don't even remember all the crybaby bitch shit you spewed in gun control threads - although I'll give you credit that you didn't sue a company claiming they ruined your baby Jesus worship for not selling you a gun, or at least you didn't try and get sympathy and brag about it on this forum if you did) because you're so scared someone might at some point threaten you (with your "if the guvment comes for me!" obviously being complete bullshit since your gun wouldn't do jack shit if they wanted to kill your ass), its rich that you're here trying to cop this fucking tone, you fucking hypocrite.

I realize you're a white guy who fucked off to backwoods Montana region so he can go jerk off his surrogate penis and horde animal murder trophies, but are you subsisting entirely on chickenshit or is it merely the race aspect that's at play and why you're copping your Billy Badass routine? While you might not be a white supremacist I guarantee you personally know and likely are even friends with some. Point being, you don't get to lecture other people, especially black people, who have been targeted and fucking murdered by cops that they shouldn't feel threatened by one walking around in a Turmp mask by a polling place. Furthermore, if you think their only fear is him just shooting them right there if they don't vote for Turmp you're even more of a dumb sonofabitch than I thought.

Cry moar. People aren't afraid because you carry a gun. They're afraid because you're an obvious right wing indoctrinated asshole with a gun. That's been proven over and over and over to be something that people have reason to not want around them. Because at best they likely have to deal with you constantly pissing and moaning about how you're so persecuted for open carrying (or a litany of other bullshit things that you've chosen to do and likely choose to go out of your way to be an in your face asshole about), and at worst they're expecting you to snap and fucking murder a bunch of them because your girlfriend/wife left you or you fucked up and got reprimanded at work, or because you spend too much time on Stormfront/4Chan/Facebook and have decided that you're going to be the avenging angel to finally bring about the race war. Because that's what you brain fucked white dudes obsessed with guns keep fucking doing.



Yeah I bet they basically told him to stop wearing the mask while in uniform and moved him to another polling location, while they probably gave him extra compensation for having to go somewhere else and laughed about it.



I think in some states its public record (if not your voting record your party affiliation). Florida has a bunch of "transparency" laws (its why you hear so many stories about "Forida man" because they have laws making arrest records available to the public), so it wouldn't surprise me if they have some with regards to voting.
sounds like you are the one that is racist, are you actually crying while you typed this? A lot of name calling and hostility, hope it made you feel good to put others down.
 
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Are you people for real? you are scared to vote? you are thinking someone is going to know how you vote when you vote? how does a police officer with a trump mask intimidate you to vote for trump? what am i missing? im all for carrying guns, but you are going to do what. shoot someone that is holding a trump sign? no one is going to beat you and force your hand to vote a certain way calm down. I would think this is actually not the proud boys why would they want to incriminate themselves. sounds like bs
Hey Mr Law and Order it is ILLEGAL for that cop to wear a Trump mask while on duty. I work at a government facility and it is also illegal to display political advertisements

With all the shit going on with cops and black people of course some black people are going to feel intimidated.
 

MtnMan

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It's been a long long time since I did anything with tracing emails, but iirc it is possible to do find the IP(s) they were sent from.
That brings back memories. I did that for a coworker of my wife that was getting threatening emails years ago, back when AOL was a major player. She couldn't get her workplace (state agency) excited enough, so she forwarded them to me and I traced the source IP.

With that info she finally got law enforcement involved, and they actually caught the person red handed at a computer in the library at a nearby college.
 

killster1

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Hey Mr Law and Order it is ILLEGAL for that cop to wear a Trump mask while on duty. I work at a government facility and it is also illegal to display political advertisements

With all the shit going on with cops and black people of course some black people are going to feel intimidated.
its not just cops and black people, cops murder all races. Am i scared of the police during a traffic stop? YES. am i scared of a police officer in a polling station NO. you dont see the difference? there is basically zero to worry about, if you hate teh police it would make you want to vote even more for biden right?
 

Homerboy

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its not just cops and black people, cops murder all races. Am i scared of the police during a traffic stop? YES. am i scared of a police officer in a polling station NO. you dont see the difference? there is basically zero to worry about, if you hate teh police it would make you want to vote even more for biden right?

You ignored the important part - IT IS ILLEGAL FOR HIM TO WEAR THAT MASK AT A POLLING LOCATION. It's not a matter of "being scared" or not.
 
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Zorba

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You ignored the important part - IT IS ILLEGAL FOR HIM TO WEAR THAT MASK AT A POLLING LOCATION. It's not a matter of "being scared" or not.
Notice that the mask also has profanity on it. Even more professional.
 

Paladin3

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YOU can't wear your fucking maga hat into the polls, and this jackwagon doesn't get to wear his fucking Trump undies on his face. IT'S ILLEGAL.
I believe that's exactly what I fucking said. Reading comprehension FTMFL.
 
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HomerJS

Lifer
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its not just cops and black people, cops murder all races. Am i scared of the police during a traffic stop? YES. am i scared of a police officer in a polling station NO. you dont see the difference? there is basically zero to worry about, if you hate teh police it would make you want to vote even more for biden right?
I-L-L-E-G-A-L

However I must assume you are cool with cops violating the law while on duty.
 
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Paladin3

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he doesn't have to, just being in uniform with that mask at the polling place is against department policy and could be a violation of law as candidate signage inside a polling location is banned in a number of states.
Yup, that's exactly what I said. It's 100% illegal, and I'm cool with whatever punishment he gets.

I only took issue with the folks playing this up as if the cop was there to shoot anyone who didn't vote Trump. What he did was already illegal and bad enough. No need to get ridiculous about it and turn this into an exaggerated political ploy. Address what the guy actually did and that's enough.
 
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