The Presidents press conf 8/15 started as Infrastructure ended a mess *Now with a double down 8/17*

[soundforbjt]

Even the leader of Iran has trolled Drumpf, he posted a picture of himself holding a black child.

 

[Roflmouth]

Real leaders do what they must. Your Dear Leader is obviously not. Maybe is a complete coward.

Perhaps if he stopped the racist behavior he would be hated less.

Perhaps if he did every single thing the people who despise him say he should, they would suddenly and magically not despise him anymore. Or he could just ignore you 🙂

 

[zinfamous]

Perhaps if he did every single thing the people who despise him say he should, they would suddenly and magically not despise him anymore. Or he could just ignore you 🙂

So you really do relish your King of Shithill and the life you live in Derpmundia, the tiny land of snowflake morons?

 

[Jhhnn]

Alright, and then what?
Is he going to get his supporters better jobs? Different healthcare (this kind of died, maybe rightly so)? Tax cuts (this will likely only benefit a small amount of people)? Something else?

All that matters are the delicious liberal tears.

 

[agent00f]

Yeah! If those 40% aren't careful, you 60% are going to get really mad, and keep posting completely impotent temper tantrums on message boards. That'll show them 🙂

I'd remind you what happened to your nazi and confederate predecessors, but wouldn't want you to stop making conservatives all look like them.

 

[HomerJS]

Perhaps if he did every single thing the people who despise him say he should, they would suddenly and magically not despise him anymore. Or he could just ignore you 🙂

Only an ignoramus would suggest a President where people dislike him can ignore them.

BTW - try a different strawman. No president can or would do everything people who dislike him say but this guy fails to meet minimum standards of behavior. That's the opinion of the overwelming majority of people in this country.

 

[outriding]

are those mom pants?

 

[pauldun170]

Historians Question Trump’s Comments on Confederate Monuments

There is a crucial difference between leaders like Washington and Jefferson, imperfect men who helped create the United States, Ms. Gordon-Reed said, and Confederate generals like Jackson and Lee, whose main historical significance is that they took up arms against it. The comparison, she added, also “misapprehends the moral problem with the Confederacy.”

...
“This is not about the personality of an individual and his or her flaws,” she said. “This is about men who organized a system of government to maintain a system of slavery and to destroy the American union.”

...
Mr. Trump’s comments failed to recognize the difference between history and memory, which is always shifting.

When you alter monuments, “you’re not changing history,” he said. “You’re changing how we remember history.”

Some critics of Confederate monuments have called for them to be moved to museums, rather than destroyed, or even left in place and reinterpreted, to explain the context in which they were created. Mr. Grossman noted that most Confederate monuments were constructed in two periods: the 1890s, as Jim Crow was being established, and in the 1950s, during a period of mass Southern resistance to the civil rights movement.

“We would not want to whitewash our history by pretending that Jim Crow and disenfranchisement or massive resistance to the civil rights movement never happened,” he said. “That is the part of our history that these monuments testify to.”

...
“The amazing thing is that the president is doing more to endanger historical monuments than most of the protesters,” he said. “The alt-right is producing a world where there is more pressure to remove monuments, rather than less.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/...e-lee-george-washington-thomas-jefferson.html

 

[obidamnkenobi]

So as much as Trump is a total unhinged loon, I just read up on some reports of the events. And it sounds like those antifa morons were actually violent? They blockaded the (to be fair; legal) protest and threw rocks etc. This was from wapo and NYT, so not the usual crazy breitbart drivel. Why couldn't they just let the crazy nazi have their march, and they would expose themselves for what they were? By attacking them they're playing into their game and practically feeding the right their talking points! What should have been a display of nazi dirtbags is now a shouting match about moral equivalence or not. Seriously, cut it out idiots.

Antifa makes no sense to me. They purport to "fight" fascism, but beating people and blocking 1st amendment sanctioned protests? WTF? How does that even make sense? We all hate nazis, but they still have a right to speak their message, that's the whole point of NOT-fascism!

 

[Bowfinger]

lol. words but no substance. Nothing that you typed here actually means anything.

I don't recall Him ever posting anything of substance. He's a troll who contributes nothing of value and nothing original, just gratuitous attacks on "liberals". He could be replaced with a very simple script.

 

[sandorski]

What I wonder is: How many bridges did he announce?

 

[agent00f]

So as much as Trump is a total unhinged loon, I just read up on some reports of the events. And it sounds like those antifa morons were actually violent? They blockaded the (to be fair; legal) protest and threw rocks etc. This was from wapo and NYT, so not the usual crazy breitbart drivel. Why couldn't they just let the crazy nazi have their march, and they would expose themselves for what they were? By attacking them they're playing into their game and practically feeding the right their talking points! What should have been a display of nazi dirtbags is now a shouting match about moral equivalence or not. Seriously, cut it out idiots.

Antifa makes no sense to me. They purport to "fight" fascism, but beating people and blocking 1st amendment sanctioned protests? WTF? How does that even make sense? We all hate nazis, but they still have a right to speak their message, that's the whole point of NOT-fascism!

Are you waiting for the nazis to strike first?

 

[obidamnkenobi]

Are you waiting for the nazis to strike first?

eh, yes? I don't go around punching people because I disagree with them. Waiting for them to strike first give you both the moral and legal high ground. Is this so radical?

"nazis attack onlookers" or
"protesters fight each other"
Which headline looks better?

 

[fskimospy]

eh, yes? I don't go around punching people because I disagree with them. Waiting for them to strike first give you both the moral and legal high ground. Is this so radical?

"nazis attack onlookers" or
"protesters fight each other"
Which headline looks better?

The headline, correctly, already is 'nazis attack onlookers'. The level of violence is not even remotely comparable.

 

[agent00f]

eh, yes? I don't go around punching people because I disagree with them. Waiting for them to strike first give you both the moral and legal high ground. Is this so radical?

"nazis attack onlookers" or
"protesters fight each other"
Which headline looks better?

Seems obvious the world would've been far better off had something been done about the nazis before they struck first.

 

[Capt Caveman]

I will soon, I've been so damned busy the past couple of days. I agree that white supremacist/Nazi/whatever you want to call them are always goi g to be in the wrong. That's not a blanket justification of any and all things done by those that oppose them though.

Fuck those evil fucks. We fought a war against them in Europe and now their on US Soil. Yeah, we should be nice to them now that they are living among us.

 

[obidamnkenobi]

The headline, correctly, already is 'nazis attack onlookers'. The level of violence is not even remotely comparable.

Well, that's what I was wondering. But it sounded like the antifa were throwing stuff pretty early. I can't make out who did what. So except for the crazy guy in the car, who were "more" violent?
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-charlottesville-witnesses-20170815-story.html
And even so, if antifa were throwing rocks at the nazies when they showed up they started it, and loose almost all moral high-ground

 

[Bowfinger]

It means everything. Idiot liberals insisted that they were on the right side of history, and that conservatives were done for, and then Trump comes along and beautifully disproves that 🙂

Bad news, my pugnacious friend. Trump is not a conservative, nor is the modern GOP. It's a regressive alliance between religious zealots, bigots, and greedy assholes who feel entitled to all the benefits of a first-world society, but no responsibility to pay for them. Oh, and then there's the elite 0.01% who use you rubes as cannon fodder in their class war. In short, today's GOP has no interest in traditional conservative values.

 

[dainthomas]

eh, yes? I don't go around punching people because I disagree with them. Waiting for them to strike first give you both the moral and legal high ground. Is this so radical?

"nazis attack onlookers" or
"protesters fight each other"
Which headline looks better?

Or:

"Protesters fight each other and Nazis run over people with cars"

 

[Capt Caveman]

So as much as Trump is a total unhinged loon, I just read up on some reports of the events. And it sounds like those antifa morons were actually violent? They blockaded the (to be fair; legal) protest and threw rocks etc. This was from wapo and NYT, so not the usual crazy breitbart drivel. Why couldn't they just let the crazy nazi have their march, and they would expose themselves for what they were? By attacking them they're playing into their game and practically feeding the right their talking points! What should have been a display of nazi dirtbags is now a shouting match about moral equivalence or not. Seriously, cut it out idiots.

Antifa makes no sense to me. They purport to "fight" fascism, but beating people and blocking 1st amendment sanctioned protests? WTF? How does that even make sense? We all hate nazis, but they still have a right to speak their message, that's the whole point of NOT-fascism!

Yeah, let's leave them alone so that they can legitimize themselves and grow in numbers. They're harmless and won't do anything in the future. The Vice video should horrify you.

 

[fskimospy]

Well, that's what I was wondering. But it sounded like the antifa were throwing stuff pretty early. I can't make out who did what. So except for the crazy guy in the car, who were "more" violent?
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-charlottesville-witnesses-20170815-story.html
And even so, if antifa were throwing rocks at the nazies when they showed up they started it, and loose almost all moral high-ground

Your link seems to support the fact that the Nazis were responsible for initiating the violence. The only ones I see claiming otherwise were sources described as far right or white supremacist in your link, which are obviously not credible.

From the Post:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/clas...a21a8e006ab_story.html?utm_term=.0d416299ec0e

Charlottesville Police Chief Al S. Thomas Jr. said the rallygoers went back on a plan that would have kept them separated from the counterprotesters. Instead of coming in at one entrance, he said, they came in from all sides. Headlong into the counterprotesters.

A few minutes before 11 a.m., a swelling group of white nationalists carrying large shields and long wooden clubs approached the park on Market Street. About two dozen counterprotesters formed a line across the street, blocking their path. With a roar, the marchers charged through the line, swinging sticks, punching and spraying chemicals.

That seems to answer that. Nazis were, unsurprisingly, responsible.

 

[Younigue]

Well, that's what I was wondering. But it sounded like the antifa were throwing stuff pretty early. I can't make out who did what. So except for the crazy guy in the car, who were "more" violent?
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-charlottesville-witnesses-20170815-story.html
And even so, if antifa were throwing rocks at the nazies when they showed up they started it, and loose almost all moral high-ground

Depends on how you look at it. Some would say (me included) that showing up to a "peaceful" rally with guns and wearing riot gear is "starting it" first. Guns vs. Rocks... The Rock throwers though wrong didn't even bring knives to a gun fight and we all know how absurd that concept is. Does that explanation give you a different perspective or no?

 

[agent00f]

I will soon, I've been so damned busy the past couple of days. I agree that white supremacist/Nazi/whatever you want to call them are always goi g to be in the wrong. That's not a blanket justification of any and all things done by those that oppose them though.

Trumpsters always too busy to find some time to condemn the klan & co:

Oh no! The people who've always hated the GOP are going to hate the GOP now!

They had great fun with that last November, as they have for every subsequent special election since. Try not to have a panic attack 😉

 

[obidamnkenobi]

Yeah, let's leave them alone so that they can legitimize themselves and grow in numbers. They're harmless and won't do anything in the future. The Vice video should horrify you.

and violently attacking their (legal) protests won't legitimize their victim-hood and grow their numbers? Punching nazis achieve what exactly?

 

[Victorian Gray]

Fuck those evil fucks. We fought a war against them in Europe and now their on US Soil. Yeah, we should be nice to them now that they are living among us.

They've been there for a long time.