The Presidents Czar

[Modelworks]

Van Jones is gone, but there are still lots of Czar that remain. Try to keep the Van Jones post in the other thread.
Do you have issues with any remaining ones ?

List I found on the beck site, if someone has a better one, please post it.
http://www.glennbeck.com/conte...les/article/198/29391/

The one that troubles me most now that Van Jones is gone is John Holdren


24. Science Czar - John Holdren

Holdren co-authored in 1977 titled Ecoscience: Population, Resources, and Environment. The book reportedly includes this statement: "population-control laws, even including laws requiring compulsory abortion, could be sustained under the existing Constitution." Holdren's office says he "does not now and never has been an advocate of compulsory abortions or other repressive measures to limit fertility."

He has the qualifications for the job, but that statement seems a bit extreme.

edit: After reading more about the guy I don't have a problem with him. The statement he made was in regards to what could happen if population got out of control, he didn't back it at all even when he said it.


28. Technology Czar - Aneesh Chopra

He has degrees in public policy but is the Chief Technology Officer. This is the kind of thing that worries me. I would prefer someone who knows about the technology more than a person who worked as a investment banker . He is supposed to increase broadband access nationwide, doubt he will do it.


23. Regulatory Czar - Cass R. Sunstein

In his 2004 book, Animal Rights, suggested that animals ought to be able to bring suit, with private citizens acting as their representatives, to ensure that animals are not treated in a way that violates current law.

I love animals but think that is going a bit too far. In animal rights cases doesn't the government already have someone working on the animals behalf , like the DA ?



12. Energy and Environment Czar - Carol Browner

2003: A federal judge held the Environmental Protection Agency in contempt for destroying computer files during the Clinton administration

I would like to know more about this and what all the details were.

 

[nageov3t]

is it ironic for a so-called marxist to have appointed so many czars?

 

[Rastus]

I have troubles with all of them. They are essentially cabinet level positions that are appointed without Senate approval or Congressional oversight.

Also, it's going to be a clusterfuck with the Czars' territory overlapping with the regular cabinet, diluting their power and responsibility.

All Czars need to go, even the ones that were put in place before the current administration (drug czar, for example). They are outside the constitution and they don't belong there.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

I have a problem with every single one of them - not necessarily for who they are and what they represent - but rather that the position they hold has no Congressional oversight like would normally happen with Cabinet level positions. I think Congress needs to grow a set and demand BHO follow the guidelines in place instead of bypassing them by giving the positions a different name.

 

[Vette73]

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[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Modelworks
Topic Title: The Presidents Czar
Topic Summary: with Van Jones gone, do you have concerns with others?

I bet there isn't one Obama (non Republican of course) appointee that you are happy with.

ODS is strong with you

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Modelworks
Topic Title: The Presidents Czar
Topic Summary: with Van Jones gone, do you have concerns with others?

I bet there isn't one Obama (non Republican of course) appointee that you are happy with.

ODS is strong with you

Actually I like most of them. Parties matter nothing to me. I don't care who does the job as long as they do it right. That is the problem with people like you and politics. You are so hung up on parties and titiles and which one controls what that you don't even care what the end result is. Damn the parties. I care about who is doing what regardless of what they claim to be.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Modelworks
Topic Title: The Presidents Czar
Topic Summary: with Van Jones gone, do you have concerns with others?

I bet there isn't one Obama (non Republican of course) appointee that you are happy with.

ODS is strong with you

Actually I like most of them. Parties matter nothing to me. I don't care who does the job as long as they do it right. That is the problem with people like you and politics. You are so hung up on parties and titiles and which one controls what that you don't even care what the end result is. Damn the parties. I care about who is doing what regardless of what they claim to be.

Oh bullshit

You didn't complain one iota about the result when your hero and his buddies were in control.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Rastus
I have troubles with all of them. They are essentially cabinet level positions that are appointed without Senate approval or Congressional oversight.

Also, it's going to be a clusterfuck with the Czars' territory overlapping with the regular cabinet, diluting their power and responsibility.

All Czars need to go, even the ones that were put in place before the current administration (drug czar, for example). They are outside the constitution and they don't belong there.

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I have a problem with every single one of them - not necessarily for who they are and what they represent - but rather that the position they hold has no Congressional oversight like would normally happen with Cabinet level positions. I think Congress needs to grow a set and demand BHO follow the guidelines in place instead of bypassing them by giving the positions a different name.

Same for both of you.

BULLSHIT

Never heard you guys complaining when your hero Bush and his buds were in control.

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Modelworks
Topic Title: The Presidents Czar
Topic Summary: with Van Jones gone, do you have concerns with others?

I bet there isn't one Obama (non Republican of course) appointee that you are happy with.

ODS is strong with you

Actually I like most of them. Parties matter nothing to me. I don't care who does the job as long as they do it right. That is the problem with people like you and politics. You are so hung up on parties and titiles and which one controls what that you don't even care what the end result is. Damn the parties. I care about who is doing what regardless of what they claim to be.

Oh bullshit

You didn't complain one iota about the result when your hero and his buddies were in control.

Hero ? What hero ? I complain about anything I don't like in government. Bush did so much wrong that it would take pages to post about it. In my opinion he sucked as a president in his second term. I think he tried at the start, but that is another topic .

Go troll somewhere else.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Hero ? What hero ? I complain about anything I don't like in government. Bush did so much wrong that it would take pages to post about it. In my opinion he sucked as a president in his second term. I think he tried at the start, but that is another topic .

Go troll somewhere else.

BULLSHIT again

Obama is no Bush

 

[Tequila]

I agree that all the Czars should go. No approval and no oversight is a bad idea.

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: Tequila
I agree that all the Czars should go. No approval and no oversight is a bad idea.

I think we need to know exactly how much control they have. Is it just "Mr. President I think we should do this", or is it "Mr. President , I'll handle it"

If they just advise I really don't have a problem with them as long as they are not too radical .

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Tequila
I agree that all the Czars should go. No approval and no oversight is a bad idea.

Yet if your hero was still in office you would take an appointment any day I bet

 

[Tequila]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Tequila
I agree that all the Czars should go. No approval and no oversight is a bad idea.

Yet if your hero was still in office you would take an appointment any day I bet

If Bill Clinton was in office? The 90s were some damn good times.

Oh wait, you expected me to be some right wing nut and Bush admirer? I liked Clinton and Reagan for different reasons and I'm not tied to any political party. I hated Bush Sr/Jr with passion and some of the slimeballs they put in office.

BTW, are you ever able to think and reason for yourself? Are you so far to the left that anything Obama does is ok with you?

 

[nageov3t]

stop feeding the troll, you only egg him on.

 

[Druidx]

I wonder if we will ever get to the point where the automatic response will be anything besides....
but bush

 

[Underclocked]

Get rid of all of them and then we'll start on the bigger list.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Tequila

BTW, are you ever able to think and reason for yourself? Are you so far to the left that anything Obama does is ok with you?

BULLSHIT snipped

Anything other than what your heroes have done is better

 

[Fern]

I'd like the media/press to keep on this story.

In the past I was only aware of the Drug Czar. I do not support the WoD and so thought that was BS along the lines of Nancy Reagan's "just say no" crappola.

I'd like to know who they are, and exactly what they do. What kind of power do they have?

Since they are not subject to a confirmation process etc, I think it's a good idea the MSM fills that void in the process by investigating/reporting on them.

Some of these I've heard of, like Holbrooke nad Dennis Ross. I don't see them as Czars but rather "Special Envoys" that dimminish the role of Hillary as Sec. of State.

But I'd like to more about the others. We need 30-some more Cabinet (lite) positions? Is our government that big, that intrusive?

Fern

 

[0marTheZealot]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I have a problem with every single one of them - not necessarily for who they are and what they represent - but rather that the position they hold has no Congressional oversight like would normally happen with Cabinet level positions. I think Congress needs to grow a set and demand BHO follow the guidelines in place instead of bypassing them by giving the positions a different name.

Guidelines =/= laws. Unless it (Federal Law, Constitution) states explicitly that Obama can't appoint Czars for various positions, he's doing nothing wrong.

That doesn't mean I agree with what he's doing, you are just approaching the problem in a wrong way.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
I have a problem with every single one of them - not necessarily for who they are and what they represent - but rather that the position they hold has no Congressional oversight like would normally happen with Cabinet level positions. I think Congress needs to grow a set and demand BHO follow the guidelines in place instead of bypassing them by giving the positions a different name.

Guidelines =/= laws. Unless it (Federal Law, Constitution) states explicitly that Obama can't appoint Czars for various positions, he's doing nothing wrong.

That doesn't mean I agree with what he's doing, you are just approaching the problem in a wrong way.

Uh no - Congress has every right to make sure he's not overstepping his bounds and could put an end to this czar BS by shining a big spotlight on it.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Hero ? What hero ? I complain about anything I don't like in government. Bush did so much wrong that it would take pages to post about it. In my opinion he sucked as a president in his second term. I think he tried at the start, but that is another topic .

Go troll somewhere else.

BULLSHIT again

Obama is no Bush

Someone help you configure a 'BULLSHIT' macro?

 

[Budmantom]

One radical gone, now we need to get rid of one more... Obama.

 

[BarrySotero]

I was just reading about Chavez shutting down radio stations he doesn't like:


" CARACAS, Sept 5 (Reuters) - Venezuela will pull the plug on 29 more radio stations, a top official in President Hugo Chavez's government said on Saturday, just weeks after dozens of other outlets were closed in a media clampdown.

Infrastructure Minister Diosdado Cabello closed 34 radio stations in July, saying the government was "democratizing" media ownership."

We have the same thing being set up with Obama hiring pro-Chavez ("an incredible revolution, a democratic revolution" - after which Chavez "began to take very seriously the media in the country.") pro-Alinsky FCC Diversity Czar Czar Mark Lloyd who wants to use the diversity Trojan horse to fix the "strutural imbalance" of the talk radio he openly hates (especially Limbaugh) and campaigned against the past years. Obama goes well beyond liberal and it's dangerou.