The President Lied about the War!

[Bigdude]

The War in Kosovo, he lied about the number of mass graves, he lied about how long we would be there! Clinton lied, to get us in a war, that the USA had no interest in, they weren't a threat!

 

[Insane3D]

Morning Bigdude.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Bigdude
The War in Kosovo, he lied about the number of mass graves, he lied about how long we would be there! Clinton lied, to get us in a war, that the USA had no interest in, they weren't a threat!

So two wrongs make a right? I thought those who voted for Bush did si because they wanted an honest man in the Office. Oops! At least Clinton's lies didn't cost us as dearly as Bushes.

My question is why did Bush or his Handlers believe they needed to lie to the American Public about the WMD's and Hussien being an immanent threat to the region and the USA?

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Bigdude
The War in Kosovo, he lied about the number of mass graves, he lied about how long we would be there! Clinton lied, to get us in a war, that the USA had no interest in, they weren't a threat!

So two wrongs make a right? I thought those who voted for Bush did si because they wanted an honest man in the Office. Oops! At least Clinton's lies didn't cost us as dearly as Bushes.

My question is why did Bush or his Handlers believe they needed to lie to the American Public about the WMD's and Hussien being an immanent threat to the region and the USA?

Hussein was an imminent threat to the region. I don't think he was an imminent threat to the US, but his instability created a situation in the Mid-East that was increasingly hostile to us and Israel. Compound all that and you could have a serious case for him being enough of a threat to us to warrant us taking him out. Now on the WMDs I can totally agree. Where in the hell are they?

 

[Insane3D]

My question is why did Bush or his Handlers believe they needed to lie to the American Public about the WMD's and Hussien being an immanent threat to the region and the USA?

Lie? Not GWB. Ever. It's just all those damn intelligence guys led him on....he was just fooled. You know that saying about getting fooled....

 

[Red Dawn]

Hussein was an imminent threat to the region.

Well according to the Neo Cons and Bush supporters. I guess from the Arab perspective you can say the same thing about Israel, not that I agree with it.

The truth of the matter is that he (Bush) lied to the American Public plain and simple!

 

[tec699]

Don't you talk about Clinton like that!! He was a hell of a lot better then Bush!!!

:|

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Originally posted by: Bigdude
The War in Kosovo, he lied about the number of mass graves, he lied about how long we would be there! Clinton lied, to get us in a war, that the USA had no interest in, they weren't a threat!

He also lied about how long troops would be there, sort of...he promised my family, when he came to Baumholder and addressed the "Iron Soldiers," that we would be home by Christmas...two had come and gone before I made it out of that hell hole. But then again, it was in "America's national interest," so who am I to complain?

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

Originally posted by: Bigdude
The War in Kosovo, he lied about the number of mass graves, he lied about how long we would be there! Clinton lied, to get us in a war, that the USA had no interest in, they weren't a threat!

He also lied about how long troops would be there, sort of...he promised my family, when he came to Baumholder and addressed the "Iron Soldiers," that we would be home by Christmas...two had come and gone before I made it out of that hell hole. But then again, it was in "America's national interest," so who am I to complain?

So am I to assume that since Clinton lied about Kosovo it's ok with you now that Bush lied about Iraq?

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

Originally posted by: Bigdude
The War in Kosovo, he lied about the number of mass graves, he lied about how long we would be there! Clinton lied, to get us in a war, that the USA had no interest in, they weren't a threat!

He also lied about how long troops would be there, sort of...he promised my family, when he came to Baumholder and addressed the "Iron Soldiers," that we would be home by Christmas...two had come and gone before I made it out of that hell hole. But then again, it was in "America's national interest," so who am I to complain?

So am I to assume that since Clinton lied about Kosovo it's ok with you now that Bush lied about Iraq?

No, not at all...but I an not sure how Bush lied about Iraq; I heard him say it was going to be expensive and we would be there until the job was finished...seems to be true thus far.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

Originally posted by: Bigdude
The War in Kosovo, he lied about the number of mass graves, he lied about how long we would be there! Clinton lied, to get us in a war, that the USA had no interest in, they weren't a threat!

He also lied about how long troops would be there, sort of...he promised my family, when he came to Baumholder and addressed the "Iron Soldiers," that we would be home by Christmas...two had come and gone before I made it out of that hell hole. But then again, it was in "America's national interest," so who am I to complain?

So am I to assume that since Clinton lied about Kosovo it's ok with you now that Bush lied about Iraq?

No, not at all...but I an not sure how Bush lied about Iraq; I heard him say it was going to be expensive and we would be there until the job was finished...seems to be true thus far.

WMD's?

 

[SViscusi]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Bigdude
The War in Kosovo, he lied about the number of mass graves, he lied about how long we would be there! Clinton lied, to get us in a war, that the USA had no interest in, they weren't a threat!

So two wrongs make a right? I thought those who voted for Bush did si because they wanted an honest man in the Office. Oops! At least Clinton's lies didn't cost us as dearly as Bushes.

My question is why did Bush or his Handlers believe they needed to lie to the American Public about the WMD's and Hussien being an immanent threat to the region and the USA?

Hussein was an imminent threat to the region.

Says who? He hasn't attacked any one since the first Gulf War.

I don't think he was an imminent threat to the US, but his instability created a situation in the Mid-East that was increasing hostile to us and Israel.

Do you mean the fact that we had bases in Saudi Arabia, because if you do I agree.

Compound all that and you could have a serious case for him being enough of a threat to us to warrant taking out.

If only that's was the way it was sold to us but alas it was WMD, WMD, Hate Freedom, WMD.

Now on the WMDs I can totally agree. Where in the hell are they?

A few things could have happened.

1. 1. He has hidden them really well.

1. 2. We've haven't found actual weapons, just evidence that he was trying to produce them

1. 3. We've found weapons and evidence of weapons programs, but rather than trickling it out bit by bit the admin is sitting on it waiting to deliver it all at once in the hope that it will be the knockout blow their critics

1. 4. He had no weapons, no programs, our intelligence and that of the Iraqi National Congress (who was providing most of it) was a failure and maybe we should look at the source of the info more closely before we believe them.

1. 5. When he realized that he was going to be invaded no matter what. He destroyed them or gave them away in the hopes on embarrassing us.

 

[Red Dawn]

If only that's was the way it was sold to us but alas it was WMD, WMD, Hate Freedom, WMD.

Exactly!

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn


WMD's?

..and you know they are not there how? I bet you knew those airplanes were burried underground, though, right? ..and the nuclear research papers and parts where hidden under Muhammed Al'Jihad's rose bushes, right? ..and that WMD are not there, right?

 

[UltraQuiet]

Hussein was an imminent threat to the region. I don't think he was an imminent threat to the US, but his instability created a situation in the Mid-East that was increasing hostile to us and Israel. Compound all that and you could have a serious case for him being enough of a threat to us to warrant taking out. Now on the WMDs I can totally agree. Where in the hell are they?

Agreed.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

Originally posted by: Red Dawn


WMD's?

..and you know they are not there how? I bet you knew those airplanes were burried underground, though, right? ..and the nuclear research papers and parts where hidden under Muhammed Al'Jihad's rose bushes, right? ..and that WMD are not there, right?

It doesn't seem like it. If they can't hide the Hussien Boys what makes you think they would be able to do a better job with WMD's? Don't you think that the Bush regime is pulling out all stops and sparing no expense trying to prove that Iraq's WMD's were as much of a threat as they portrayed them to be?

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn


It doesn't seem like it. If they can't hide the Hussien Boys what makes you think they would be able to do a better job with WMD's?

They had ten years to hide their weapons; ten minutes to hide 'the boys' after we dropped some 'say hello to my little friend' toys over Baghdad.

Don't you think that the Bush regime is pulling out all stops and sparing no expense trying to prove that Iraq's WMD's were as much of a threat as they portrayed them to be?

Yes, I do...and rightly so.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

Originally posted by: Red Dawn


It doesn't seem like it. If they can't hide the Hussien Boys what makes you think they would be able to do a better job with WMD's?

They had ten years to hide their weapons; ten minutes to hide 'the boys' after we dropped some 'say hello to my little friend' toys over Baghdad.

Don't you think that the Bush regime is pulling out all stops and sparing no expense trying to prove that Iraq's WMD's were as much of a threat as they portrayed them to be?

Yes, I do...and rightly so.

So how long before you start to doubt Bush? Or do you believe the ends justify the means!

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: SViscusi

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Bigdude
The War in Kosovo, he lied about the number of mass graves, he lied about how long we would be there! Clinton lied, to get us in a war, that the USA had no interest in, they weren't a threat!

So two wrongs make a right? I thought those who voted for Bush did si because they wanted an honest man in the Office. Oops! At least Clinton's lies didn't cost us as dearly as Bushes.

My question is why did Bush or his Handlers believe they needed to lie to the American Public about the WMD's and Hussien being an immanent threat to the region and the USA?

Hussein was an imminent threat to the region.

Says who? He hasn't attacked any one since the first Gulf War.

I don't think he was an imminent threat to the US, but his instability created a situation in the Mid-East that was increasing hostile to us and Israel.

Do you mean the fact that we had bases in Saudi Arabia, because if you do I agree.

Compound all that and you could have a serious case for him being enough of a threat to us to warrant taking out.

If only that's was the way it was sold to us but alas it was WMD, WMD, Hate Freedom, WMD.

Now on the WMDs I can totally agree. Where in the hell are they?

A few things could have happened.

1. 1. He has hidden them really well.

1. 2. We've haven't found actual weapons, just evidence that he was trying to produce them

1. 3. We've found weapons and evidence of weapons programs, but rather than trickling it out bit by bit the admin is sitting on it waiting to deliver it all at once in the hope that it will be the knockout blow their critics

1. 4. He had no weapons, no programs, our intelligence and that of the Iraqi National Congress (who was providing most of it) was a failure and maybe we should look at the source of the info more closely before we believe them.

1. 5. When he realized that he was going to be invaded no matter what. He destroyed them or gave them away in the hopes on embarrassing us.

Hussein was an imminent threat says me and numerous other people with more experience in crazy dictators than you and I put together. Keep spinning bud... BOBDN or someone will be here to back you up sooner or later.

 

[Moonbeam]

We have no right to attack people who are a threat in another region. We were lied to with the claim they were a threat to us. We, most of us, were hypnotized into believing Iraq is Al Quaeda. We attacked from a PNAC dream. Given the costs I think it's treason but you have to include Congress in there too for abrogating their Constitutional duty to go to war. Those worthless f*cks think only of re-election.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: SViscusi

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Bigdude
The War in Kosovo, he lied about the number of mass graves, he lied about how long we would be there! Clinton lied, to get us in a war, that the USA had no interest in, they weren't a threat!

So two wrongs make a right? I thought those who voted for Bush did si because they wanted an honest man in the Office. Oops! At least Clinton's lies didn't cost us as dearly as Bushes.

My question is why did Bush or his Handlers believe they needed to lie to the American Public about the WMD's and Hussien being an immanent threat to the region and the USA?

Hussein was an imminent threat to the region.

Says who? He hasn't attacked any one since the first Gulf War.

I don't think he was an imminent threat to the US, but his instability created a situation in the Mid-East that was increasing hostile to us and Israel.

Do you mean the fact that we had bases in Saudi Arabia, because if you do I agree.

Compound all that and you could have a serious case for him being enough of a threat to us to warrant taking out.

If only that's was the way it was sold to us but alas it was WMD, WMD, Hate Freedom, WMD.

Now on the WMDs I can totally agree. Where in the hell are they?

A few things could have happened.

1. 1. He has hidden them really well.

1. 2. We've haven't found actual weapons, just evidence that he was trying to produce them

1. 3. We've found weapons and evidence of weapons programs, but rather than trickling it out bit by bit the admin is sitting on it waiting to deliver it all at once in the hope that it will be the knockout blow their critics

1. 4. He had no weapons, no programs, our intelligence and that of the Iraqi National Congress (who was providing most of it) was a failure and maybe we should look at the source of the info more closely before we believe them.

1. 5. When he realized that he was going to be invaded no matter what. He destroyed them or gave them away in the hopes on embarrassing us.

Hussein was an imminent threat says me and numerous other people with more experience in crazy dictators than you and I put together. Keep spinning bud... BOBDN or someone will be here to back you up sooner or later.

While Saddam might have been, Bush used the threat of WMD's to sell the American Public on invading Iraq. He might of had to work harder if he used a truthful angle and might not have enjoyed the support he did.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: SViscusi

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Bigdude
The War in Kosovo, he lied about the number of mass graves, he lied about how long we would be there! Clinton lied, to get us in a war, that the USA had no interest in, they weren't a threat!

So two wrongs make a right? I thought those who voted for Bush did si because they wanted an honest man in the Office. Oops! At least Clinton's lies didn't cost us as dearly as Bushes.

My question is why did Bush or his Handlers believe they needed to lie to the American Public about the WMD's and Hussien being an immanent threat to the region and the USA?

Hussein was an imminent threat to the region.

Says who? He hasn't attacked any one since the first Gulf War.

I don't think he was an imminent threat to the US, but his instability created a situation in the Mid-East that was increasing hostile to us and Israel.

Do you mean the fact that we had bases in Saudi Arabia, because if you do I agree.

Compound all that and you could have a serious case for him being enough of a threat to us to warrant taking out.

If only that's was the way it was sold to us but alas it was WMD, WMD, Hate Freedom, WMD.

Now on the WMDs I can totally agree. Where in the hell are they?

A few things could have happened.

1. 1. He has hidden them really well.

1. 2. We've haven't found actual weapons, just evidence that he was trying to produce them

1. 3. We've found weapons and evidence of weapons programs, but rather than trickling it out bit by bit the admin is sitting on it waiting to deliver it all at once in the hope that it will be the knockout blow their critics

1. 4. He had no weapons, no programs, our intelligence and that of the Iraqi National Congress (who was providing most of it) was a failure and maybe we should look at the source of the info more closely before we believe them.

1. 5. When he realized that he was going to be invaded no matter what. He destroyed them or gave them away in the hopes on embarrassing us.

Hussein was an imminent threat says me and numerous other people with more experience in crazy dictators than you and I put together. Keep spinning bud... BOBDN or someone will be here to back you up sooner or later.

While Saddam might have been, Bush used the threat of WMD's to sell the American Public on invading Iraq. He might of had to work harder if he used a truthful angle and might not have enjoyed the support he did.

I can agree 100% with that.

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam


We have no right to attack people who are a threat in another region. We were lied to with the claim they were a threat to us. We, most of us, were hypnotized into believing Iraq is Al Quaeda. We attacked from a PNAC dream. Given the costs I think it's treason but you have to include Congress in there too for abrogating their Constitutional duty to go to war. Those worthless f*cks think only of re-election.

So what about France and Germany? Should we have just 'laid the smack down' on Japan and allowed the French to fall (again) to the German war machine again? How many Jews have to be killed before you think it's in the world's interest to address a threat in another region? 6 million?

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: SViscusi

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Bigdude
The War in Kosovo, he lied about the number of mass graves, he lied about how long we would be there! Clinton lied, to get us in a war, that the USA had no interest in, they weren't a threat!

So two wrongs make a right? I thought those who voted for Bush did si because they wanted an honest man in the Office. Oops! At least Clinton's lies didn't cost us as dearly as Bushes.

My question is why did Bush or his Handlers believe they needed to lie to the American Public about the WMD's and Hussien being an immanent threat to the region and the USA?

Hussein was an imminent threat to the region.

Says who? He hasn't attacked any one since the first Gulf War.

I don't think he was an imminent threat to the US, but his instability created a situation in the Mid-East that was increasing hostile to us and Israel.

Do you mean the fact that we had bases in Saudi Arabia, because if you do I agree.

Compound all that and you could have a serious case for him being enough of a threat to us to warrant taking out.

If only that's was the way it was sold to us but alas it was WMD, WMD, Hate Freedom, WMD.

Now on the WMDs I can totally agree. Where in the hell are they?

A few things could have happened.

1. 1. He has hidden them really well.

1. 2. We've haven't found actual weapons, just evidence that he was trying to produce them

1. 3. We've found weapons and evidence of weapons programs, but rather than trickling it out bit by bit the admin is sitting on it waiting to deliver it all at once in the hope that it will be the knockout blow their critics

1. 4. He had no weapons, no programs, our intelligence and that of the Iraqi National Congress (who was providing most of it) was a failure and maybe we should look at the source of the info more closely before we believe them.

1. 5. When he realized that he was going to be invaded no matter what. He destroyed them or gave them away in the hopes on embarrassing us.

Hussein was an imminent threat says me and numerous other people with more experience in crazy dictators than you and I put together. Keep spinning bud... BOBDN or someone will be here to back you up sooner or later.

While Saddam might have been, Bush used the threat of WMD's to sell the American Public on invading Iraq. He might of had to work harder if he used a truthful angle and might not have enjoyed the support he did.

That was ONE reason. The media are the ones who tried to sell it to the american public.

 

[phillyTIM]

typical neo-con strategy: deflect blame of the current leader onto the previous ones.

they're as full of S##T as their strategy is