The president is neither omniscient nor omnipotent

[werepossum]

Palin has fake boobs?

Sometimes the idiots run low on new reasons to hate Palin. Ergo, the fake boobs charge.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Need link to support what would otherwise seem like liberal, partisan, hackery.


I agree with the OP.

I would personally support her boobs.

 

[Moonbeam]

I would personally support her boobs.

So you wantz ta be da Z-bra cause yous showen yur stripes.

 

[Chaotic42]

I agree completely. It's also crazy to expect anyone to really change the course of the country's economy in four years. I'm not an Obama fan, but if you're unhappy with the course the country is taking, start tossing Congressmen out by the truckload.

Our system is brilliant, but the built in safety features that make it hard to break things quickly also make it hard to really fix things quickly.

 

[PeshakJang]

It's also crazy to expect anyone to really change the course of the country's economy in four years.

That's the only reason he got elected...

 

[Taejin]

please do not compare BP to 9/11.

the oil spill seems like its going to shape up to be a greater tragedy than 9/11. I have a feeling the fact taht the effects will take years to uncover and so long only limits the extent of the problem though... actually nvmd, the policies we implemented and the wars we got into because of 9/11 is right up there with an exxon valdez spill every 4 days. bleargh.

 

[William Gaatjes]

I agree OP. I don't like Obama because I don't subscribe to his political philosophy, but the idea that the president is personally responsible for every single notable "event" that occurs during his presidency is laughable.

The oil industry has been trucking along under laws from previous administrations for many many years before Obama hit the scene. Even if the first thing he did upon taking office was undertake a complete safety auditing of American oil companies and oil companies operating on american waters he would have been lambasted for "unnecessary action against an industry that hasn't seen a serious disaster for more than 40 years" or some such. Not only that, but something would have happened somewhere else and he would have been held doubly responsible for that because of a supposed prevent ability of this alternate mishap if only he hadn't wasted the resources spent on the oil auditing.

You don't even have to worry about the fact that there's no way in fucking hell that he could have had the knowledge to check up on the oil industry or have had any good reason to suspect it BECAUSE of the very aforementioned 40-something year disaster free spell. If he really was omniscient and took pro-active action to prevent it he STILL would have been in the hot seat, and he'd never have been able to prove to the nay-sayers that he had prevented a major disaster. You absolutely cannot win as president.

The truth is that people who are against a certain party will find reasons to hate that party's president even if they have to resort to nit-picking piddling details or assigning blame for impossible to predict events that hardly anyone was worried about before they blew up or melted down or whatever. The news networks know this and they egg it on by having morons like Bill O'reilly and Sean Hannity harp on the same issues constantly until they gain credence through sheer repetition. People are biased, and I'm not sure it's possible to change the mind of a truly biased person; especially when there's always an angle to any situation they can pursue to continue that bias, and there's always a news network beholden to one side or the other to lend that angle credence.

I to think that Obama could not have known what a large disaster this oil spill would turn into.

But since it is happening, the first thing he can enforce is to
pass a law for a certain safety provision of approximately 500,000 dollars.
See link.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704423504575212031417936798.html


The second thing he can do is to enforce a law that requires regular inspection of drill equipment as drill platforms and that periodic unscheduled checks by multiple independent government officials from different states. These checks would be that the regular inspections done by the company themselves is up to par. If there is a discrepancy found (that can be hazardous) between safety reports and reality, a fine of 10 million dollars a day will be payed starting from the date the report was published and will end on the next day after the proper inspections and repairs and testing is finished. This high penalty price is to pay for the government officials and materials and solely for that government section. The government section which has to do checks upon these companies. I see it very simple : If these companies are not willing to perform up to par safety procedures or to comply to those safety procedures, the government will have to do it for them and will have to charge those companies because taxpayers money should be invested in situations where the tax payer benefits from directly like schools or roads or public programs.

The third thing Obama can do is immediately stop all drilling in sea and demand such an safety check by independent specialista and send the check to the president of BP and has to be payed in person by the BP president from his own personal money at once. He can work to repay for all the damage since he is the president and as such responsible. He is entitled to fire all personal involved and even sue them for neglect As he is being forced to pay for their irresponsible behaviour.

The fourth thing Obama can do is strip BP for the next 25 years to the USA where a large amount of money will go to all affected states and the people living in those states near the spill in the gulf of Mexico . If BP is forced to pay all at once, they will be going out of business or have to come up with issuing shares or some other wall street scam trick. And we do not want that.

If Obama does all this, i can assure you his presidential seat after 2012 is a done deal. He will be chosen again.

At least he is trying for now, and the spill fund is already happening :

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/jun/21/oil-bp-oil-spill


There is one thing i find strange, there have been according to the documentary serious safety errors made because what it comes down to is haste and greed. http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2075588&highlight=deepwater+horizon

But when i look around at wikipedia it does not mention anything about the cause. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon_oil_spill

 

[blackangst1]

I to think that Obama could not have known what a large disaster this oil spill would turn into.

But since it is happening, the first thing he can enforce is to
pass a law for a certain safety provision of approximately 500,000 dollars.
See link.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704423504575212031417936798.html


The second thing he can do is to enforce a law that requires regular inspection of drill equipment as drill platforms and that periodic unscheduled checks by multiple independent government officials from different states. These checks would be that the regular inspections done by the company themselves is up to par. If there is a discrepancy found (that can be hazardous) between safety reports and reality, a fine of 10 million dollars a day will be payed starting from the date the report was published and will end on the next day after the proper inspections and repairs and testing is finished. This high penalty price is to pay for the government officials and materials and solely for that government section. The government section which has to do checks upon these companies. I see it very simple : If these companies are not willing to perform up to par safety procedures or to comply to those safety procedures, the government will have to do it for them and will have to charge those companies because taxpayers money should be invested in situations where the tax payer benefits from directly like schools or roads or public programs.

The third thing Obama can do is immediately stop all drilling in sea and demand such an safety check by independent specialista and send the check to the president of BP and has to be payed in person by the BP president from his own personal money at once. He can work to repay for all the damage since he is the president and as such responsible. He is entitled to fire all personal involved and even sue them for neglect As he is being forced to pay for their irresponsible behaviour.

Im not an expert, but how would he do this in international waters?

The fourth thing Obama can do is strip BP for the next 25 years to the USA where a large amount of money will go to all affected states and the people living in those states near the spill in the gulf of Mexico . If BP is forced to pay all at once, they will be going out of business or have to come up with issuing shares or some other wall street scam trick. And we do not want that.

Remember, BP is NOT an American company....

 

[William Gaatjes]

Im not an expert, but how would he do this in international waters?



Remember, BP is NOT an American company....

I am sure that if Obama (Who has been trying very hard to improve the relation between the USA and other countries, the relation that got destroyed by some cowboy who hardly knows the wrong end of a horse when he sits on it) has a sit down with officials from other countries, they are very willing to listen since this disaster is not going unnoticed. It is still active news in the world, although not so important anymore. If some country decides to allow drilling without safety inspections than they should not complain if anything does go wrong. And the UK does very good business with the US. But since Israel is advancing in technology as well, the UK might not be that important anymore. There are countries in Europe waiting in line to take that special place of the UK. Although these countries will not behave like lap dogs.

well, threaten with a ban and make a law against BP because of crimes against the USA. I do not know, i am sure some political loophole exists.

 

[shortylickens]

In most of those issues the president immediately took charge and claimed to be able to fix them, DESPITE the fact he is loaded with ignorance on those subject matters.

I think the last president I saw admit his lack of ability on certain subjects was Reagan.

 

[werepossum]

I would personally support her boobs.

LOL So would I - if my wife allowed it (not bloody likely!)

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

your partisanship is showing. where did i mention anything about mccain and him being able to do a better job. heck, i didn't even mention obama.
somehow you assumed i was on the "other side" and you went straight to attack mode.

how the hell did my post even have anything to do with what the OP is about. you have no idea, do you?

let me clue you in.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=30036985&postcount=80

it was a jab from another thread. feel stupid now don't you?
actually i bet you don't because someone as partisan as you never thinks he's wrong.

no response lemon law?

 

[SammyJr]

He presented himself as the savior that could do all. Now he's demonstrating that he's actually just an empty suit who wouldn't know leadership if it came and bit him on the butt.

Actually, that was the Republican caricature of Obama. Sensible people knew that much wasn't going to change.

 

[SammyJr]

Link?



You nutters need to make up your minds. You spend half your time attacking him because he hasn't done anything and the other half attacking him for all the radical changes he's making to destroy America. About the only thing you're consistent about is attacking. No matter what Democrats do or do not do, you attack.

There are so many valid, material criticisms one can make of Obama and the Democrats. You fwapping twits can't bother to consider this, of course. You're so full of blind hatred you seize any non-issue you're fed and beat it mindlessly, never once pausing to consider whether it's accurate, let alone important. Consequently, you drown out any intelligent and well-founded concerns while relegating yourselves to the irrelevant fringe with the other loons. In short, you prove again and again that the real empty suits are you.

Well put.

 

[SammyJr]

the fact that the right is criticizing him over his handling of the spill doesn't really matter.

it's the fact that the left is doing it that should be concerning.

most republicans aren't going to be voting for Obama no matter what he does... but if we go into 2012 with Jon Stewart, Chris Matthews, and some of the biggest liberal columnists criticizing the president on a regular basis amidst no signs of getting out of Afghanistan, it's something that I'd worry could really drive down voter turn-out among the young and minorities that propelled Obama to victory.

Despite the well deserved bashing by the liberal types, Democrats will still get the liberal vote. The price of staying home is the Tea Party. And as disappointed as liberals are with Obama, the alternative is stomach-churning. I don't like the situation and would much rather vote for real liberals, but it is what it is.