The President Hates Veterans

[Fanatical Meat]

I’m trying a BENGHAZI style headline.

Jose Segovia-Benitez, a 38-year-old Marine Corps combat veteran who served in Iraq, was deported to El Salvador - a country where he hasn't lived since he was a toddler - on Wednesday.

after he was discharged from the military, Segovia-Benitez began to self-medicate with alcohol, his family said, which led to trouble with authorities. He ended up serving time in prison for a variety of crimes, including assault with a deadly weapon and injuring a spouse, for which he received an eight-year prison sentence.

Marine Corps vet who served in Iraq deported to El Salvador

There has to be a better way

 

[soulcougher73]

He is just upset the bone spurs kept him from seeing real action in Nam. So he lashes out at real veterans.....

 

[theeedude]

Again confirming that military is for suckers.

 

[HomerJS]

Veterans need to wake the hell up and start hatin' back.

Other Vets didn't stand up for John McCain
Other Vets didn't stand up for the Kahn Family
Other Vats didn't stand up for the family of Sgt. La David Johnson

All came under attack from Trump

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Veterans need to wake the hell up and start hatin' back.

Other Vets didn't stand up for John McCain
Other Vets didn't stand up for the Kahn Family
Other Vats didn't stand up for the family of Sgt. La David Johnson

All came under attack from Trump

Hey careful this is what the Russian Trolls want.
I am concerned about the Warrior culture we have been worshiping for the last 18 years.

 

[nakedfrog]

Hey careful this is what the Russian Trolls want.
I am concerned about the Warrior culture we have been worshiping for the last 18 years.

More like thirty, isn't it? I recall it being quite a thing during our first Iraq adventure.

 

[blackangst1]

On the surface this seems...terrible. Although I think something else could have been done, perhaps he should have just stayed here and continued his criminal behavior including beating his wife?

But after he was discharged from the military, Segovia-Benitez began to self-medicate with alcohol, his family said, which led to trouble with authorities. He ended up serving time in prison for a variety of crimes, including assault with a deadly weapon and injuring a spouse, for which he received an eight-year prison sentence.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

On the surface this seems...terrible. Although I think something else could have been done, perhaps he should have just stayed here and continued his criminal behavior including beating his wife?

There has to be a better way.
I am in no way saying the guy isn’t a problem and a risk. There just has to be a better way.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

More like thirty, isn't it? I recall it being quite a thing during our first Iraq adventure.

I agree but it seemed to really pickup steam 2001ish

 

[blackangst1]

There has to be a better way.
I am in now way saying the guy isn’t a problem and a risk. There just has to be a better way.

I agree, and thats what I said also. I dont know his green card status, but Im willing to guess committing crimes qualifies for deportation.

edit: As I suspected, from another of many stories about this case:

People with legal permanent residency can live and work in the United States as long as they renew their green card every 10 years. But the government can revoke that status and deport green-card holders on a number of grounds, including aggravated felony convictions.

 

[UNCjigga]

While I normally wouldn’t cry about a violent offender being deported, the article doesn’t clarify whether he was here legally or illegally. I would assume legally (otherwise how else would he serve?) I would totally understand deporting a violent felon if they’re here illegally, but why would ICE target him if he’s a) a legal immigrant, and b) served his time already? Not sure I have the full story here, but ICE should have at least considered if his US military service would endanger his life in El Salvador.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

perhaps he should have just stayed here and continued his criminal behavior including beating his wife?

I haven't come across anyone who says that should happen. Of course, you fail to note that he wasn't a "criminal" until he honorably served and got a traumatic brain injury for his service.

But that wouldn't make him a winner, and Trump only respects those who come out unscathed.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

While I normally wouldn’t cry about a violent offender being deported, the article doesn’t clarify whether he was here legally or illegally. I would assume legally (otherwise how else would he serve?) I would totally understand deporting a violent felon if they’re here illegally, but why would ICE target him if he’s a) a legal immigrant, and b) served his time already? Not sure I have the full story here, but ICE should have at least considered if his US military service would endanger his life in El Salvador.

As black said above I’m guessing there was some kind of residence or green card violation.
I’m not a subject matter expert but I’d assume if a foreign worker commits assault with a weapon he is bound to be deported.

 

[UNCjigga]

As black said above I’m guessing there was some kind of residence or green card violation.
I’m not a subject matter expert but I’d assume if a foreign worker commits assault with a weapon he is bound to be deported.

Which...would make sense, no? I’m a former green card holder/permanent resident myself, but I don’t quite know what the legal limits and jeopardies of “permanent” are. If he served and was discharged honorably, I’m assuming he was fast-tracked for citizenship.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Which...would make sense, no? I’m a former green card holder/permanent resident myself, but I don’t quite know what the legal limits and jeopardies of “permanent” are. If he served and was discharged honorably, I’m assuming he was fast-tracked for citizenship.

Not sure
and congratulations to you Sir

 

[Jhhnn]

On the surface this seems...terrible. Although I think something else could have been done, perhaps he should have just stayed here and continued his criminal behavior including beating his wife?

I agree, and thats what I said also. I dont know his green card status, but Im willing to guess committing crimes qualifies for deportation.

edit: As I suspected, from another of many stories about this case:

You do seem to love the chickenshit aspects of our immigration system. I mean, that's what it is. The guy was raised in this country, suffered a brain injury during military service, did time for being a problem & a fuckup, so let's deport him to a country he may not even remember, make him somebody else's problem. He's rightfully our problem, unless we can weasel our way out of it.

 

[Matt390]

Why shouldn't we deport criminal immigrants?

 

[Matt390]

You do seem to love the chickenshit aspects of our immigration system. I mean, that's what it is. The guy was raised in this country, suffered a brain injury during military service, did time for being a problem & a fuckup, so let's deport him to a counry he may not even remember, make him somebody else's problem. He's rightfully our problem, unless we can weasel our way out of it.

Not our citizen, not our problem. Deporting criminals should be non partisan.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Not our citizen, not our problem. Deporting criminals should be non partisan.

Lost interest in CPUs huh?
You’re shot out of a cannon.

Back to the point. The guy suffered a brain injury while serving the country. Don’t you think it’s a little harsh to deport him to a place he hasn’t lived in since he was a toddler?

 

[Jhhnn]

Lost interest in CPUs huh?
You’re shot out of a cannon.

Back to the point. The guy suffered a brain injury while serving the country. Don’t you think it’s a little harsh to deport him to a place he hasn’t lived in since he was a toddler?

It might be different if the guy was Norwegian.

 

[HomerJS]

I agree, and thats what I said also. I dont know his green card status, but Im willing to guess committing crimes qualifies for deportation.

edit: As I suspected, from another of many stories about this case:

Because of suffering a brain injury serving his country. Would it have helped if he was from Norway??

Does not deserve deportation.

 

[glenn1]

On the surface this seems...terrible. Although I think something else could have been done, perhaps he should have just stayed here and continued his criminal behavior including beating his wife?

Sad stories like this are what progressives use to undermine or ignore all our immigration laws. To them it's more like laws are guidelines not actual rules.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Sad stories like this are what progressives use to undermine or ignore all our immigration laws. To them it's more like laws are guidelines not actual rules.

I suspect if Obama did this your response would be different.

Goal is just to point out immigration is complicated and yes this guy was a problem but there has to be a better solution.

 

[glenn1]

I suspect if Obama did this your response would be different.

Goal is just to point out immigration is complicated and yes this guy was a problem but there has to be a better solution.

No, I don't advocate for simply ignoring laws when they result in situations I find personally undesirable. That's how you get a situation where the rule of law is a running joke. Folks see a woman supposedly fleeing from her abusive husband and say "well asylum laws really don't allow for that to be a basis but we can't just let her die!" and let her in. Multiply that by 10-20 million folks and you have institutionalized an underclass of servants. Servants who are working for below market wages (if they're lucky and not being sex trafficked) and are routinely threatened by employers and others to keep them in line. But whatever it takes to ensure that some Manhattanite can have an undocumented guy from Guatemala cook his Ethiopian food to save fifty cents on their kitfo and injeira, amirite? Not like some native-born American would have taken that job if the employer needed to pay market rates after all because it's obviously one of those "jobs Americans won't do."

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

No, I don't advocate for simply ignoring laws when they result in situations I find personally undesirable. That's how you get a situation where the rule of law is a running joke. Folks see a woman supposedly fleeing from her abusive husband and say "well asylum laws really don't allow for that to be a basis but we can't just let her die!" and let her in. Multiply that by 10-20 million folks and you have institutionalized an underclass of servants. Servants who are working for below market wages (if they're lucky and not being sex trafficked) and are routinely threatened by employers and others to keep them in line. But whatever it takes to ensure that some Manhattanite can have an undocumented guy from Guatemala cook his Ethiopian food to save fifty cents on their kitfo and injeira, amirite? Not like some native-born American would have taken that job if the employer needed to pay market rates after all because it's obviously one of those "jobs Americans won't do."

Impressive pile of jingoistic drivel.

How about we institute a system where undocumented immigrants can report such abuses, rather than pitching them to the wolves? Unless you're going to divert down the 'we can't afford it' route, of course.