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jahawkin

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Originally posted by: bigalt
publishing his personal info was low... now maybe another lunatic fan will talk about murder as was done in kobe case

already happened. he's just lucky it was a midwest team's game.

for all you naysayers, there is no question about whether the guy screwed up. whether it was officially interference or not, he did interfere with a catch from the team he is ostensibly a fan of.

there is also a very strong precedent of sports fans identifying and focusing on the turning points of when their teams started to lose. so, what's the problem here? everyone's pissed at the dude and that's that.

I don't know about the precendent of fans focusing on the turning points of when their teams started to lose. First off, the Cubs were still up 3-0 when this incident occured. Second, if you think of the "turing points" you think of Bill Buckner, Leon Durham etc - these came at decisive points in the ballgame, not when some team had a 3 run lead.

I posted this in a locked thread, and I'll post it here again:
I don't see how you can blame the fan on the loss. The Cubs had plenty of opportunities to win the game and made plenty of mistakes after the incident (Gonzales' error, keeping Prior out there too long, bringing in Farnsworth so he can intentionally walk the first batter he faces, Sammy missing the cut-off man on throws to home.....). You can't blame the one potential out on the loss - Prior blew the AB after the foul ball - there are way too many other factors in the Cubs choking than a fan screwing up (and I think this was not fan interference. The ball would have landed in the stands had noone touched it).
 

Led Zeppelin

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Originally posted by: whaleskinrug
Poor guy. Seriously, can you imagine yourself in such a situation?

I would have at least caught the ball. :D

Seriously though, I really hope the Cubs pull this game out for this guys sake. Like Draggoon01 said, I'm sure there's some people out there sick enough to want to cause harm to him, or his family because the guy wanted a souvenier, and what better thing to pass on to your son than a baseball caught during the playoffs.
 

Led Zeppelin

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Fan Apologizes

Associated Press
CHICAGO -- The fan who played in a key role in the Chicago Cubs' collapse in Game 6 of the NL championship series apologized Wednesday, saying he was brokenhearted.


With the Cubs five outs from advancing to the World Series for the first time since 1945, Steve Bartman tried to grab a foul ball, preventing outfielder Moises Alou from catching it. That helped the Florida Marlins rally for an 8-3 victory to tie the NL championship series Tuesday night.


"I had my eyes glued on the approaching ball the entire time and was so caught up in the moment that I did not even see Moises Alou, much less that he may have had a play," Bartman said in a statement.


"Had I thought for one second that the ball was playable or had I seen Alou approaching, I would have done whatever I could to get out of the way and give Alou a chance to make the catch."


The 26-year-old Bartman was escorted by security guards from Wrigley Field after he was threatened by angry fans and pelted with debris.


Bartman apologized to Cubs fans everywhere, adding he was "truly sorry from the bottom of this Cubs fan's broken heart."


"I ask that Cub fans everywhere redirect the negative energy that has been vented towards my family, my friends, and myself into the usual positive support for our beloved team on their way to being National League champs," Bartman said.


Hours after the Marlins forced the decisive seventh game, Bartman was the talk of the town.


Angry broadcasters castigated him. A local newspaper found in a Web poll that thousands of people blamed him for playing a role in the Cubs' loss. Even the governor weighed in.


"Nobody can justify any kind of threat to someone who does something stupid like reach for that ball," Gov. Rod Blagojevich said.


In Florida, Gov. Jeb Bush said an offer of asylum to Bartman might be a good idea, and an oceanfront retreat in Pompano Beach offered him a free three-month stay if he needed to get out of Chicago.


Earlier in the day, neighbors and other fans had various opinions on whether Bartman should have tried to catch the ball.


"If you are a fan who's been around for a while, you just know not to interfere with a player," said Don Emond, 66, a longtime season-ticket holder who was at the game. "I think these fans like that are sort of selfish or they don't really care about the consequences of what happened."


Bartman was described by neighbors as a youth baseball coach and such a big Cubs fan that he traveled to Arizona to see the team in spring training.


Don Kessinger went after countless popups near the stands while playing shortstop for the Cubs in the 1960s and '70s.


"I think he did what 40,000 people would have done," said Kessinger, now in the real estate business in Oxford, Miss.


Even Alou, who was initially furious, seemed to soften later.


"I kind of feel bad for the guy now, because every fan in every ballpark, their first reaction is they want a souvenir," he said. "Nobody's going to think about the outcome of the game."
 

Spoooon

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Did any of you catch Florida's offer of asylum? The story is on ESPN.com I think. 3 month stay at some beachfront hotel.