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BBond

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Was it a good thing when Bush acted unilaterally, against UN Security Council rules and attacked Iraq unprovoked? After 23 months and a still growing insurgency do you still consider attacking Iraq without UN approval as well as basing the attack on false evidence a good thing ace?

 

cwjerome

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I advocated an Iraqi invasion before Bush, during Bush, and today. Do I think he did a good job? Nope.

I can care less about UN "approval" (damn, there's that UN 'trying to dictate' stuff again), and I don't believe Bush lied. That must make me very dumb and evil in your book, but luckily your book is merely one, in the billions of "books" in the marketplace of ideas. Can't please everybody...
 

BBond

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There are several schools of thought on international relations. The current administration goes by the theory that the biggest gun rules. They are witnessing the folly of that approach today in Iraq.

I believe it's best for nations to work toward understanding rather than backslide into barbarism and aggression.



 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: BBond
There are several schools of thought on international relations. The current administration goes by the theory that the biggest gun rules. They are witnessing the folly of that approach today in Iraq.

I believe it's best for nations to work toward understanding rather than backslide into barbarism and aggression.

Then maybe the UN should step up and fix itself. You really think having Cuba on the Human Rights Commission is furthering your ideals?

CsG
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: BBond
There are several schools of thought on international relations. The current administration goes by the theory that the biggest gun rules. They are witnessing the folly of that approach today in Iraq.

I believe it's best for nations to work toward understanding rather than backslide into barbarism and aggression.

Then maybe the UN should step up and fix itself. You really think having Cuba on the Human Rights Commission is furthering your ideals?

CsG

What would you do? Attack Cuba like Iraq? Rule with an iron fist?

Cuba has national healthcare. Cuba has free education. Cuba doesn't fly private jets around the world and drop people off for torture sessions lasting months and years. Cuba doesn't concoct fantasies used to invade nations. Cuba doesn't murder tens of thousands of civilians there, or torture and maim countless others.

The UN can't "fix" itself. The UN is its members. It's members must fix themselves.

Including, and quite possible under the Bush regime, chiefly the USA.

 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: BBond
There are several schools of thought on international relations. The current administration goes by the theory that the biggest gun rules. They are witnessing the folly of that approach today in Iraq.

I believe it's best for nations to work toward understanding rather than backslide into barbarism and aggression.

Then maybe the UN should step up and fix itself. You really think having Cuba on the Human Rights Commission is furthering your ideals?

CsG

What would you do? Attack Cuba like Iraq? Rule with an iron fist?

Cuba has national healthcare. Cuba has free education. Cuba doesn't fly private jets around the world and drop people off for torture sessions lasting months and years. Cuba doesn't concoct fantasies used to invade nations. Cuba doesn't murder tens of thousands of civilians there, or torture and maim countless others.

The UN can't "fix" itself. The UN is its members. It's members must fix themselves.

Including, and quite possible under the Bush regime, chiefly the USA.


:roll: Yeah, it means attacking Cuba :roll: Sure do fly off on wild tangents don't you "bill"?

But anyway it doesn't surprise me you come out apologizing for Cuba:p

The UN can fix itself, but it won't. It just turns a blind eye to these situations and lets things continue on as always. What a joke. If you UN apologists really want the UN to be this big "peace" institution and forum for deciding what is right/wrong in the world -then you best work to fix the UN. What does you continually blaming the US have to do with the UN's failures? That's right - nothing. The US has it's problems - and the UN has theirs. There are plenty of threads for you to blame America but that doesn't solve the UN's problems.

Now try to focus for once "bill".

CsG